m1t vs superdrol

which gave you a more positive result

  • m1t

    Votes: 149 35.3%

  • superdrol

    Votes: 273 64.7%
  • Total voters
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I'm wondering if running Ultra H.O.T. during an M1T cycle could reduce the shutdown. I guess it would depend on the different binding affinities of ATD and M1T to the androgen receptors around the hypothalumus.
 
CDB said:
I'm wondering if running Ultra H.O.T. during an M1T cycle could reduce the shutdown. I guess it would depend on the different binding affinities of ATD and M1T to the androgen receptors around the hypothalumus.
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Probably would not help, but you never know until you try. In theory, it would not be effective. But it shouldn't work so great for gyno either, yet it does, so it would be worth a try.
 
I definently like the SD better but still experienced sides. As stated by others the gains are a little slower but they are solid and they stick. I have found after extensively using M1T that low, low doses of 5mg are all you really need and works much like SD. SD is still they way to go as you just feel on fire, M1T seems to mess with your mind.
 
SD made me lethargic and generally feel like I had been drinking the night before (although I didnt touch any alcohol during my cycle).

I was too out of breath quicker, mass gains were great, 6Ib in 3weeks, though not that much strength.

Paul
 
cliff_vtr said:
I was too out of breath quicker, mass gains were great....

Paul
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Amen to that! I couldn't walk a flight of stairs without getting winded. However, that faded as I went off of it. SD rocks!

I still have 180 caps of M1T that I may never use... if I can continue to get SD.
 
I actually saw more bloat on SD than M1T... strange to be sure. I held a lot of water in my face on two weeks of SD at 20mg ed. Bloat was similar to what I experienced on 60mg of M14ADD
 
I'm taking Superdrol now, almost a week into it and last I weighed myself on Friday I was up 6 pounds (see my log).

No lethargy, no bloating, no back pumps, very little if any shrinkage so far, and only one zit so far (not any more than I might normally get).

I've never used any other product like this so I can't compare -- but I would consider my side effect experience to be as close to zero as one could expect.
 
I dont understand how SD can be put above M1T. However i havent taken SD... YET. My gains on M1T (stacked with 4AD) were huge with zero sides and a bf drop. Ill be able to compare in about two months.
 
MadMas said:
I dont understand how SD can be put above M1T. However i havent taken SD... YET. My gains on M1T (stacked with 4AD) were huge with zero sides and a bf drop. Ill be able to compare in about two months.
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Zero sides, with M1T?! Even if you missed the lethargy, I'd think the shrinkage would still get you. Even so, if that's true then you are one of the "lucky" ones. My SD gains were less dramatic than with M1T, but very solid and clean.
 
mit is great to kickstarrt a cycle off for 2-3 weeks at 10-15mg/day. it is a great mass builder w/ some unwanted sides. i prefer 1-test cyp over m1t though
 
s.norman said:
mit is great to kickstarrt a cycle off for 2-3 weeks at 10-15mg/day. it is a great mass builder w/ some unwanted sides. i prefer 1-test cyp over m1t though
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Yeah, bad idea to go into total shutdown from the get go. I'd rather put M1T at the end to cap off a cycle, and hit it hard with PCT immediately following.

Why not do SD and S1+ at the same time?
 
I love me some M1T, I ran nolva through both my 2 week cycles, no sides, gained about 10lbs each time and
kept better than half of that each time also. No noticable shutdown or anything.... Debating on spending
the cash for some SD but don't know if its gonna be worth it since I love my m1t so much ;)
 
Bignate said:
I love me some M1T, I ran nolva through both my 2 week cycles, no sides, gained about 10lbs each time and
kept better than half of that each time also. No noticable shutdown or anything.... Debating on spending
the cash for some SD but don't know if its gonna be worth it since I love my m1t so much ;)
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Did you get blood work to see how fucked up your liver and lipids were? No? Thought so.
 
I've gotten bloodwork for just M1T, M4OHN and Superdrol.
M4OHN didn't mess with the lipids.
M1T and Superdrol were pretty comparable. I don't think either M1T, Superdrol or DBOL is significantly more lipid-friendly than the other. You just have to accept the messed up lipid profile for a short time and make moves to restore it. I do believe M1T is hell on the liver - where is Superdrol is not 'hell'.

my 2cents
 
Bignate said:
I love me some M1T, I ran nolva through both my 2 week cycles, no sides, gained about 10lbs each time and
kept better than half of that each time also. No noticable shutdown or anything.... Debating on spending
the cash for some SD but don't know if its gonna be worth it since I love my m1t so much ;)
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I like M1T, it's regarded pretty negatively over here because of the side effects. [AS WELL IT SHOULD BE]. It's been pretty friendly to me though.
The liver and lipid destruction is nothing to take lightly. But if you can escape the fatigue and overall 'I feel like ****' feeling - M1T is perhaps worth it.

Nate were those you first 2 cycles?
I ask because I wouldn't expect the +10lbs in 2weeks trend to continue (even if you up the dose). Good results nonetheless :)
 
I've done bloodwork before during and right after SD cycle, but I've never done m1t and never will and I always advise people not to use it, but that's just me.
 
darkswan said:
Yeah, bad idea to go into total shutdown from the get go. I'd rather put M1T at the end to cap off a cycle, and hit it hard with PCT immediately following.

Why not do SD and S1+ at the same time?
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I have to disagree, it's better to start off with M1T - because you have 'on cycle' time to recover from the shutdown (provided you don't keep running the M1t). If you end the cycle with M1T, you may lose your gains because you are completely shutdown and restoring your natty test will take much longer.

SD and S1T is a perfect cycle. SD could be at the front or at the end.
 
DmitryWI said:
I've done bloodwork before during and right after SD cycle, but I've never done m1t and never will and I always advise people not to use it, but that's just me.
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I think your safe in advising 95% of people to stay far far far away from M1T. For sure. ;)
I'm no chemical wizard, but I'm mid-way on 500mg of Test E and 400mg of EQ, and I'm popping M1T in for 2-3weeks. The test E is running wild and I don't expect to see any sides.

Ton of Milk Thistle, Himilaya Liver Care, and Glucophase along the way. Celery Seed for BP also.

M1T is a really bad idea for a 1st cycle. You can blow up 20lbs on virtually ANYTHING for a first cycle. Too bad Biden took 1-ad away from us - that is the best for a newbie cycle. Non-Methylated, and fairly safe.
 
CEDeoudes59 said:
I think your safe in advising 95% of people to stay far far far away from M1T. For sure. ;)
I'm no chemical wizard, but I'm mid-way on 500mg of Test E and 400mg of EQ, and I'm popping M1T in for 2-3weeks. The test E is running wild and I don't expect to see any sides.

Ton of Milk Thistle, Himilaya Liver Care, and Glucophase along the way. Celery Seed for BP also.

M1T is a really bad idea for a 1st cycle. You can blow up 20lbs on virtually ANYTHING for a first cycle. Too bad Biden took 1-ad away from us - that is the best for a newbie cycle. Non-Methylated, and fairly safe.
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yea man...he's not cool...and it should have never been made illegal...he's just jealous and afraid that we would take over...so we move on to bigger and better things
 
CEDeoudes59 said:
I have to disagree, it's better to start off with M1T - because you have 'on cycle' time to recover from the shutdown (provided you don't keep running the M1t). If you end the cycle with M1T, you may lose your gains because you are completely shutdown and restoring your natty test will take much longer.

SD and S1T is a perfect cycle. SD could be at the front or at the end.
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I don't enderstand what you mean by recovery time while on cycle. If you're supressing your HPTA from the get go, then how does it start recovery while your still supressing HPTA with your other on cycle AS. Then you have to wait more weeks until PCT and your completely shutdown the entire time vs. being shut down only your last week or two. PCT if done properly should rebound your test levels to close to normal within a week or two. What am I missing here?
 
Darkswan, I agree with him. You will continue to equilibrate all though out the cycle, but you will be even more suppressed if you do it at the end and your PCT response is much slower that way. Always do your hardest androgens up front IMO.
 
DR.D said:
Darkswan, I agree with him. You will continue to equilibrate all though out the cycle, but you will be even more suppressed if you do it at the end and your PCT response is much slower that way. Always do your hardest androgens up front IMO.
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Agreed.

Though increasing a dose late in the cycle to break the mid-cycle plateau is legit. I wouldn't throw any new compounds in there, though.
 
m1t
explosive gains strength and size.
Felt like ****.
Lost a good portion felt like **** pct.
Overall ****.


Superdrol
Nice clean gains much slower then m1t.
Felt great a little aggressive
Gained strength even during pct (i tried 200mg a day of dhea) first time I have ever gained strength pct.
Felt great all around
I have not lost a damn thing I am five weeks out from superdrol cycle and done pct.

EDIT I lost weight when I stopped superdrol water weight ;)

I did
20mg a day superdrol 500mg a day 4ad trans week 1
30mg a day superdrol 500mg a day 4ad trans week 2
30mg a day superdrol 500mg a day 4ad trans week 3

SeaHawk22 :)
 
M1t is stronger by far, however superdrol had very few sides in comparison. I wasnt too bad with M1t, i started to loase my appetite around the 3 wk mark and started feeling depressed, i wouldnt call it lethargy, i wasnt tired, just emotionally drained i guess, but by that time my strenght had shot through the roof and i put on about 15 pounds, kept ten, which was fine for 3 weeks, which is as far as i went, shrinkage was within days, the GF was like WTF??? i told her why, and she replied, "i dont think i like that stuff..." with SD i gained about 5lbs but almost no sides. i ran it for aprox. 3 wks as well, im sure i could have went longer, but i also noticed the winded feeling(could just be the fact that i put on so much weight over the winter and it was my first few times trying to really run again) M1t IMO is good for 2wks and you can get gains and avoid most sides, its a good quick jumpstart, SD can be run for longer, w/o sides.
 
I did two cycles of M1T... gained maybe 5 pounds on the first and lost it all in pct. I didn't gain anything on 2nd cycle. The sides sucked.... loss of appetite, flu like symptoms on first cycle, felt like **** both cycles.

I am on day 13 of my Superdrol cycle and have gained 12 lbs. Major strength gains... no sides to speak of. I will be interested to see what happens during and after pct.

It is obvious from all the info here that different people respond better to different things but for me the clear winner is SD.
 
gunzblazin1x said:
...I will be interested to see what happens during and after pct.

It is obvious from all the info here that different people respond better to different things but for me the clear winner is SD.
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The hardness and strength gains from M1T stick around awhile after the cycle, but the results from SD seem to actually be more perm. I bet you keep your gains nicely.
 
is it okay to do a 4 week cycle of superdro? if so what should the dossage be? i used to to do 10mg m1t for the first two weeks, the weeks 3 and 4 and did 15mg of m1t. thanks
 
Johnabis said:
is it okay to do a 4 week cycle of superdro? if so what should the dossage be? i used to to do 10mg m1t for the first two weeks, the weeks 3 and 4 and did 15mg of m1t. thanks
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10,20,20,30 or 10,20,30,30 depending on your response at wk2, but you really need to do some research first. This board is great, it's loaded with SD info!
 
LMFAO.


SD was a great cycle for me, shame about the way it affected my sexual performance.

Im going to be doing a SD and Max LMG cycle soon, this should be good!
 
man this is a really tough one for me but in the end id have to go with the SD. i got HUGE off m1t and strength went up high and fast..... then i got off cycle and lost half of every thing. on sd i got nearly the same results in strength and weight meanwhile staying lean, no bloat and kept all my gains. i still love em both and only wish there was some way to combine the two.
 
poopypants said:
man this is a really tough one for me but in the end id have to go with the SD. i got HUGE off m1t and strength went up high and fast..... then i got off cycle and lost half of every thing. on sd i got nearly the same results in strength and weight meanwhile staying lean, no bloat and kept all my gains. i still love em both and only wish there was some way to combine the two.
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Oh, but there is my friend! Be patient, it's coming ;)
 
im gonna be starting my superdrol cycle on oct 29th and quick question. If im using a tribulus suppliment (like anabolic matrix) can I still stack that with rebound for PCT? I plan on running 10mg of superdrol with anabolic matrix.. but dont know if I should stop anabolic matrix and just use rebount for PCT
 
juggernaut2005 said:
im gonna be starting my superdrol cycle on oct 29th and quick question. If im using a tribulus suppliment (like anabolic matrix) can I still stack that with rebound for PCT? I plan on running 10mg of superdrol with anabolic matrix.. but dont know if I should stop anabolic matrix and just use rebount for PCT
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You have to cycle Tribulus, so I'd say just use RXT for PCT this time.
 
juggernaut2005 said:
but I can keep running the tribulis with the SD cycle right?? I cant see why it would affect anything.. would it?
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Yeah, you can even run it PCT too if you stop about 2-3 wks before and pick it back up into PCT. I just wasn't sure how long your cycle was. People do such short ones these days it seems.
 
DR.D said:
Yeah, you can even run it PCT too if you stop about 2-3 wks before and pick it back up into PCT. I just wasn't sure how long your cycle was. People do such short ones these days it seems.
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ah ok.. tribulus is for 3 weeks.. superdrol for 4 weeks.. pct for 4 weeks :) Would you recommend stacking SD with hydroxycutt caffeine free? I am using it now and dont notice much..lol! thanks for the input tho :thumb:
 
DR.D said:
Oh, but there is my friend! Be patient, it's coming ;)
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YES so the rumors are true that ive seen floating around? is this going to be licnsed by DS and distributed through AX like SD? have you guys run this with any beta testers yet and if so i dont think there is any logs to be heard of are there? isnt it supposed to be non methylated as well???? would that make it compatible for a stack with one of my 2 favorite methyls? man you guys always get me giddy as a school girl when you talk about the new stuff :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
 
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