M1A vs SD
- Thread starter DonnyG
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LiveToLift
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bmftisftw said:
Not trying to call you out just trying to help. These vitamin shops sell multiple steroid supplements and the idiots have no idea what they are. Some have sdrol and Hdrol all in one under dosed and they sell them with out even recommending support supps. They just say they are test boosters. It's easier then most think.
Husker89
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especially with a propretary blend and no compund listed just a trademarked name like methly sten TM and 20 other actual t-boosting ingredients, truce is on, log time, checkout my prolactrone log, awesome update.
Husker89
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type in prolactrone ul find it on AM
bmftisftw
Banned
Sourdough said:....you've never heard of mass tabs?
There's no link to it...it's no longer made. Only place your likely to find it is on some dusty local supp shop shelf... in the test booster section.
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I was asking for a link to his log... Lol
DonnyG
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Alright bros sorry for the lack of updates lately. The first few days of the month are crucial in my business, and I've been hard pressed to do anything outside of work and hitting the gym. Also had a little cold over the weekend, which didn't help. Shook it, and I'm back better than ever.
Did back yesterday. Decent workout. Only hit 315 on deads, but I felt like a zombie (took nyquil the night before and only slept 6 hours, it was like I was sleepwalking in the gym). Like I said earlier in the thread, diet has been iffy, but that's largely due to the fact that I was coming down with a cold. Smashed like an animal yesterday and now I'm feeling better than ever.
Update on the sides - no shutdown as of yet. Still hitting it on the regular and the boys are intact. Acne is starting to come out a BIT, nothing like SD though.
Strength and longevity in the gym have been the biggest pros to this ds. Really want to push it to 60mg but I don't have another bottle in hand and can't find one anywhere. Might just start taking the full dose an hour before the gym on lifting days. Thoughts?
Hitting chest tonight. I'll keep you guys posted on how I do. I think I'm going to order 2 bottles of stanodrol tonight to work into a bridge.
Did back yesterday. Decent workout. Only hit 315 on deads, but I felt like a zombie (took nyquil the night before and only slept 6 hours, it was like I was sleepwalking in the gym). Like I said earlier in the thread, diet has been iffy, but that's largely due to the fact that I was coming down with a cold. Smashed like an animal yesterday and now I'm feeling better than ever.
Update on the sides - no shutdown as of yet. Still hitting it on the regular and the boys are intact. Acne is starting to come out a BIT, nothing like SD though.
Strength and longevity in the gym have been the biggest pros to this ds. Really want to push it to 60mg but I don't have another bottle in hand and can't find one anywhere. Might just start taking the full dose an hour before the gym on lifting days. Thoughts?
Hitting chest tonight. I'll keep you guys posted on how I do. I think I'm going to order 2 bottles of stanodrol tonight to work into a bridge.
DonnyG
Member
Ran it at the gym. Did so many dips between sets that I lost count. Might have hit 100 reps. Would have stayed longer, but monday is amateur night and thus too packed to stay.
CHEST
Incline BB
135x10
135x10
155x10
175x5
185x5
Flat BB
135x15
155x5
175x5
185x5
205x5
Tricep Pulldown Rope
100x10
100x10
110x10
120x10
Ez-Curl Bicep Curls (just to get the pump...pictured my bis turning into mountains - shout to arnold)
60x10
70x10
80x10
CHEST
Incline BB
135x10
135x10
155x10
175x5
185x5
Flat BB
135x15
155x5
175x5
185x5
205x5
Tricep Pulldown Rope
100x10
100x10
110x10
120x10
Ez-Curl Bicep Curls (just to get the pump...pictured my bis turning into mountains - shout to arnold)
60x10
70x10
80x10
LiveToLift
Legend
Nice numbers bro. Concentrating on raising incline? I noticed you have that as compound.
DonnyG
Member
LTL thank you bro. The big exercises I work on are flat bb, incline bb, seated military press, deads, and squats. Everything else is accessory work to me.
I'd love to see 225 on the incline press. 185 was feeling good yesterday. I've hit higher, but never with that much ease. I'm trying to put my ego aside and lift more reps of a lower weight before I move up. I just don't want to get complacent with a number...there's a fine line.
I'd love to see 225 on the incline press. 185 was feeling good yesterday. I've hit higher, but never with that much ease. I'm trying to put my ego aside and lift more reps of a lower weight before I move up. I just don't want to get complacent with a number...there's a fine line.
klint
Member
I think both db and bb have their own place. though some may push bb as a better mass gainer. standing arnnies r crazy lol . i know its meant to be best while on to push for more volume during workouts do u feel u could after ur final set drop the weight back down 40% and push out a last set of very high reps to really get that blood flooding into each muscle group????
wrathchild281
Member
Cool let us know. And since ur now at 60mg ed did u dose one in the am and two preworkout or vice versa?
Also ur thread made me wanna pick up some alpha since i already have some sd on hand but havent tried it. I noticed shredded labs stopped selling it so i found one bottle on ebay for 40 bucks(kinda sketch but beggers cant be choosers.) my question is would you run
60/60/60 or 40/40/40/40? was thinking like 5 days at 40 and run out the rest of bottle at 60 especially since u say it kicks in super quick i think 3 week doses would be sufficient and im either stacking or bridging as well with stano. THanks man. Keep up the good work!
DonnyG
Member
wrath - 20mg when I wake up, 40 approx 1 hour before the gym
40 mg for the first week is a great way to ease into it. The bp headaches are definitely a factor, so I'd say easing into 60mg is the way to go.
Tonight was the first huge workout on 60mg. I crushed it for about 2 hours and could have gone longer but I got hungry. Just smashed a serious taco salad.
Seated BB Military Press
95x10
115x10
135x10
145x10
155x8
165x5...Could have gone higher, but wanted to save my strength
135x10
Widegrip Seated Cable Row
100x15
110x15
120x15
130x15
Supersetted with DB Front Raises
15lb x 8
20lb x 8 x3
Seated DB Military Press (First time I've done these in a while...I want to start incorporating DBs more in my routines)
35 x 10
45 x 10
55 x 10...Felt great, will go heavier next time
Standing Arnold Press
25 x 10 x 3
Supersetted with 45lb plate shrugs (one of my favorite exercises)
Plates x 10 x 3
Decided to hit tris at the end of the workout
V-bar tricep pulldown
100 x 15
120 x 15
130 x 15
140 x 15
Closegrip BB Benchpress
95 x 10
115 x 10
135 x 10
135 x 10
Bros I can't stress enough, 60mg is the sweet spot for this stuff. I'm definitely going to be sad to see the bottle go. Great run so far, sides are minimal and strength and longevity is outstanding.
Tomorrow I'm going to hit back again.
40 mg for the first week is a great way to ease into it. The bp headaches are definitely a factor, so I'd say easing into 60mg is the way to go.
Tonight was the first huge workout on 60mg. I crushed it for about 2 hours and could have gone longer but I got hungry. Just smashed a serious taco salad.
Seated BB Military Press
95x10
115x10
135x10
145x10
155x8
165x5...Could have gone higher, but wanted to save my strength
135x10
Widegrip Seated Cable Row
100x15
110x15
120x15
130x15
Supersetted with DB Front Raises
15lb x 8
20lb x 8 x3
Seated DB Military Press (First time I've done these in a while...I want to start incorporating DBs more in my routines)
35 x 10
45 x 10
55 x 10...Felt great, will go heavier next time
Standing Arnold Press
25 x 10 x 3
Supersetted with 45lb plate shrugs (one of my favorite exercises)
Plates x 10 x 3
Decided to hit tris at the end of the workout
V-bar tricep pulldown
100 x 15
120 x 15
130 x 15
140 x 15
Closegrip BB Benchpress
95 x 10
115 x 10
135 x 10
135 x 10
Bros I can't stress enough, 60mg is the sweet spot for this stuff. I'm definitely going to be sad to see the bottle go. Great run so far, sides are minimal and strength and longevity is outstanding.
Tomorrow I'm going to hit back again.
klint
Member
Hey donny what do u think a bout brigding this with non meth ( eg andro bulk or stano) for for weeks then go back on alpha one for 3 more weeks then pct of clomod and nolva plus test boaster anti c and e. sort of serms for 4 weeks and intetgrating a.i and c for 3 weeks starting in week 3 of pct.??? Think that would be insane 
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rayjay
Member
Hey donny what do u think a bout brigding this with non meth ( eg andro bulk or stano) for for weeks then go back on alpha one for 3 more weeks then pct of clomod and nolva plus test boaster anti c and e. sort of serms for 4 weeks and intetgrating a.i and c for 3 weeks starting in week 3 of pct.??? Think that would be insane
Yikes man, I hope you would get bloods after the first Alpha-1 round to be sure your liver is ok for another round?
vidapreta
Well-known member
DonnyG
Member
I'm going to keep it to 1 bottle of M1A and a couple bottles of stano. I definitely don't feel shutdown yet....my boys are still in full effect and i'm rocking my girls world lately.
60mg is starting to produce a little bit of acne, nothing too serious. About to go crush back. I'll keep you guys posted.
60mg is starting to produce a little bit of acne, nothing too serious. About to go crush back. I'll keep you guys posted.
DonnyG
Member
Rayjay - no i haven't measured bp
klint - 60 is where it's at bro, not sweating the sides at all.
Shutdown/sides by now on SD is so much worse than what I'm experiencing from M1A. I wish I could run this for 8 weeks, but unfortunately the bottle is coming close to empty. I have 2 bottles of stanodrol on the way and will start running it at 800mg ED as soon as it arrives.
klint - 60 is where it's at bro, not sweating the sides at all.
Shutdown/sides by now on SD is so much worse than what I'm experiencing from M1A. I wish I could run this for 8 weeks, but unfortunately the bottle is coming close to empty. I have 2 bottles of stanodrol on the way and will start running it at 800mg ED as soon as it arrives.
ozHarris
Member
I've just upped my Alpha 1 to 60 as well.
I am exactly the same as you, no sides other than acne.
Took 2 about 45 minutes before training yesterday and found i had more drive.
I am using mine in a cutting cycle so thought that may have decreased the effectiveness.
Still haven't lost any strength while being at a 600 calorie deficit.
I am exactly the same as you, no sides other than acne.
Took 2 about 45 minutes before training yesterday and found i had more drive.
I am using mine in a cutting cycle so thought that may have decreased the effectiveness.
Still haven't lost any strength while being at a 600 calorie deficit.
DonnyG
Member
Just a heads up - I'm not quite done with M1A...I think I have 3 days left. I'm strongly considering sending my last pill out for testing. If anybody knows a reputable company that handles this type of thing please PM me. I'll contact PA, and if he's up to it I'd be happy to send it to his lab.
I've loved this cycle and am a believer in M1A. I've never felt so great while on. Best of all...I've felt next to zero shutdown. Libido has been out of control actually. As I said before, I wish I could run this longer. It's a shame that there aren't more clones of this readily available.
Donny
SkubaSteve89
Member
been silently following for a while mate, your killing it! - looks like ill be using SL's gear as a 4 week kickstart & finisher in my injectable bulk, i was thinking of something like this: week 1-4 Methylvar (with one dose week 1 and then 2 doses at week 3-4), week 1-10 Test E 500mg p/wk, week 9-12 Rizen (3 tabs week 9, 5 tabs week 10-12), as i love the dry gains on epi and im interested in trying the trenavar. Quick question, is the M14AD in Methylvar similiar to the M1AD that you're on now? if it isn't, whats the main differences? Any adjustments/critiques from you PH pro's out there would be more than welcome!
DonnyG
Member
oz - I hit the gym about 2 hours after taking 40 mg tonight and I absolutely loved it...felt like I could hit the gym forever. I can definitely see this being used on a cut, too.
For all the hype I heard about M1A being wet, I found it to be pretty dry. The strength and stamina are what shine through with this compound.
I took pics of my back on day 1, after week 1, and just tonight, which is exactly 3 weeks after I started (Oct. 22). This is the first time I've done this in a cycle and am very pleased with the results.
Speaking of back...
BACK
BB Deadlift
135 x 8
225 x 8
275 x 5
315 x 2
Lat Pulldowns
130 x 10
150 x 10
170 x 5
190 x 5
210 x 3
190 x 5
Cambered Lat Pulldowns
180 x 10
200 x 5
220 x 5
200 x 5
170 to failure
Closegrip Cable Rows
110 x 15
120 x 10
130 x 10
...supersetted with DB Rows
40 x 10 x 3
Decided to switch it up and hit some pec flys even though i killed bench last night...did it for the pump
Flys
170 x 15
190 x 15
200 x 15
Closegrip Pulldowns
150 x 10
180 x 10
200 x 10
Hammer Curls
25 x 10 x 3
Finished up with an isolation machine for back... can't think of the name but I crushed it.
For all the hype I heard about M1A being wet, I found it to be pretty dry. The strength and stamina are what shine through with this compound.
I took pics of my back on day 1, after week 1, and just tonight, which is exactly 3 weeks after I started (Oct. 22). This is the first time I've done this in a cycle and am very pleased with the results.
Speaking of back...
BACK
BB Deadlift
135 x 8
225 x 8
275 x 5
315 x 2
Lat Pulldowns
130 x 10
150 x 10
170 x 5
190 x 5
210 x 3
190 x 5
Cambered Lat Pulldowns
180 x 10
200 x 5
220 x 5
200 x 5
170 to failure
Closegrip Cable Rows
110 x 15
120 x 10
130 x 10
...supersetted with DB Rows
40 x 10 x 3
Decided to switch it up and hit some pec flys even though i killed bench last night...did it for the pump
Flys
170 x 15
190 x 15
200 x 15
Closegrip Pulldowns
150 x 10
180 x 10
200 x 10
Hammer Curls
25 x 10 x 3
Finished up with an isolation machine for back... can't think of the name but I crushed it.
DonnyG
Member
Steve - Thank you for following bro I appreciate the support.
I believe that M14AD is a precursor to Dbol, but that conversion is supposedly minimal. M1A is a precursor to M1T (methyl 1 testosterone), and conversion on this (from what I've always read) is supposedly minimal, as well. Both compounds are active on their own.
M1A has been fairly dry. Methylvar is M14AD and Trendione. The dosing on the tren is pretty low, but being that tren is a wet compound, I'd expect that the two (M1A and Methylvar) would yield different results.
I believe that M14AD is a precursor to Dbol, but that conversion is supposedly minimal. M1A is a precursor to M1T (methyl 1 testosterone), and conversion on this (from what I've always read) is supposedly minimal, as well. Both compounds are active on their own.
M1A has been fairly dry. Methylvar is M14AD and Trendione. The dosing on the tren is pretty low, but being that tren is a wet compound, I'd expect that the two (M1A and Methylvar) would yield different results.
420Lifter
New member
Glad to hear it went well. As i told you it is by far my fav. So what was your total gains, lifts as well as weight. M1A till I D I E. Why wouldn't he test it, it is legal I thought he would touch anything illegal maybe I'm wrong. If you do don't be shy with those results bro.
wrathchild281
Member
That would be awsome if u decided to get it tested. Are you wanting to see the purity of it or can you actually have it tested for an accurate conversion amount to m1t?
SkubaSteve89
Member
no worries man, Ph's and research chems are about the only thing that gets through customs here in OZ so im definetly keen on learning all i can about the different PH profiles out. Ah yep i get you, M1A is a dry gainer and M14AD is a wet one basically. So whats the name of the product your on from SL? Is it M-Sten 4?
beastt
New member
thanks for logging bro, i've learned a lot. i've sent you a pm asking a few questions if you don't mind.
vidapreta
Well-known member
Your Avatar had me confused for a second.. It didn't seem like I was reading a typical post from the Boss Man...lol
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Husker89
Banned
ive heard that a cap of m14ad the dbol precursor 20mgs i believe or 30mgs whatever the dose is converts to a 5mg dianabol, so ive heard it it solid, m1a is dry and probably more hepatoxic, but m1a is soooooo goood
henryv
Active member
GW 501516 isn't a SARM. It's a PPARδ modulator.