M-TST Structure/Methoxy Toxicity

[bigSMokey]

I've searched various boards and have not been able to find the chemical structure of M-TST anywhere. I did read one of the logs on the compound and the results seemed unimpressive. I have to hand it to the tester(s) who took supps out of that bottle marked in Sharpie as 'TST'. :hammer: However, I will not take a designer with out at least knowing the chemistry. Anyone know what "trienesterone" actually pertains to?

Also, has anyone experienced any liver toxicity on M-TRN? I'm concerned w/ buying this since it is so similar to methyltrenbolone. So, on that note, the issue would be does the 17-methoxy group resist metabolism as well as the methyl group? Or does it perhaps occupy some intermediate space between 17-methyl and the easily cleaved and relatively safe THP ether as in prostan? It seems methoxy would be quite effective at blocking conversion to 17-keto due to the stability of methyl ethers. I know this has been partially disscussd before, but I think we should get some concensus on these 2 methoxy's before their either gone, or we pay a rush price on ineffective and/or toxic product.

 

[ripped218]

I've searched various boards and have not been able to find the chemical structure of M-TST anywhere. I did read one of the logs on the compound and the results seemed unimpressive. I have to hand it to the tester(s) who took supps out of that bottle marked in Sharpie as 'TST'. :hammer: However, I will not take a designer with out at least knowing the chemistry. Anyone know what "trienesterone" actually pertains to?

Also, has anyone experienced any liver toxicity on M-TRN? I'm concerned w/ buying this since it is so similar to methyltrenbolone. So, on that note, the issue would be does the 17-methoxy group resist metabolism as well as the methyl group? Or does it perhaps occupy some intermediate space between 17-methyl and the easily cleaved and relatively safe THP ether as in prostan? It seems methoxy would be quite effective at blocking conversion to 17-keto due to the stability of methyl ethers. I know this has been partially disscussd before, but I think we should get some concensus on these 2 methoxy's before their either gone, or we pay a rush price on ineffective and/or toxic product.

I am not sure how the methoxy affects everyones liver valuse but if you do a search on this board under methoxy-trn,Ryansm's log shows his blood work before and after cycle his liver values were not bad at all for an oral cycle,i suggest you read it,it is a very detailed log.

 

[jmh80]

Search for a thread that Klaus responded to on M-TRN.
He posted what he thought the stucture was of TRN. (Tren with an MOM ether - not a methoxy.)

No clue on this trienesterone (or whatever)...
I'll be able to give you my lipid/liver response as I'm getting end of cycle bloodwork.

 

[ripped218]

Search for a thread that Klaus responded to on M-TRN.
He posted what he thought the stucture was of TRN. (Tren with an MOM ether - not a methoxy.)

No clue on this trienesterone (or whatever)...
I'll be able to give you my lipid/liver response as I'm getting end of cycle bloodwork.

IMO i doubt it is a MOM structure because that would make it highly toxic ,and ryanism's liver enzyme levels would have been way off,so looking at just that one example,i would doubt it.

 

[jmh80]

I don't know the effect of an MOM ether on liver values - only CH3 additions.

But, you may be right.

I'll see what it looks like and post results so that we can see for ourselves (albeit with TRN thrown in....)

 

[ripped218]

I don't know the effect of an MOM ether on liver values - only CH3 additions.

But, you may be right.

I'll see what it looks like and post results so that we can see for ourselves (albeit with TRN thrown in....)

Yeah i would definetly be interested on seeing your liver values after your cycle,i will definetly be checking out your log.