M-TST Structure/Methoxy Toxicity

bigSMokey

bigSMokey

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I've searched various boards and have not been able to find the chemical structure of M-TST anywhere. I did read one of the logs on the compound and the results seemed unimpressive. I have to hand it to the tester(s) who took supps out of that bottle marked in Sharpie as 'TST'. :hammer: However, I will not take a designer with out at least knowing the chemistry. Anyone know what "trienesterone" actually pertains to?

Also, has anyone experienced any liver toxicity on M-TRN? I'm concerned w/ buying this since it is so similar to methyltrenbolone. So, on that note, the issue would be does the 17-methoxy group resist metabolism as well as the methyl group? Or does it perhaps occupy some intermediate space between 17-methyl and the easily cleaved and relatively safe THP ether as in prostan? It seems methoxy would be quite effective at blocking conversion to 17-keto due to the stability of methyl ethers. I know this has been partially disscussd before, but I think we should get some concensus on these 2 methoxy's before their either gone, or we pay a rush price on ineffective and/or toxic product.
 
bigSMokey said:
I've searched various boards and have not been able to find the chemical structure of M-TST anywhere. I did read one of the logs on the compound and the results seemed unimpressive. I have to hand it to the tester(s) who took supps out of that bottle marked in Sharpie as 'TST'. :hammer: However, I will not take a designer with out at least knowing the chemistry. Anyone know what "trienesterone" actually pertains to?

Also, has anyone experienced any liver toxicity on M-TRN? I'm concerned w/ buying this since it is so similar to methyltrenbolone. So, on that note, the issue would be does the 17-methoxy group resist metabolism as well as the methyl group? Or does it perhaps occupy some intermediate space between 17-methyl and the easily cleaved and relatively safe THP ether as in prostan? It seems methoxy would be quite effective at blocking conversion to 17-keto due to the stability of methyl ethers. I know this has been partially disscussd before, but I think we should get some concensus on these 2 methoxy's before their either gone, or we pay a rush price on ineffective and/or toxic product.
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I am not sure how the methoxy affects everyones liver valuse but if you do a search on this board under methoxy-trn,Ryansm's log shows his blood work before and after cycle his liver values were not bad at all for an oral cycle,i suggest you read it,it is a very detailed log.
 
Search for a thread that Klaus responded to on M-TRN.
He posted what he thought the stucture was of TRN. (Tren with an MOM ether - not a methoxy.)

No clue on this trienesterone (or whatever)...
I'll be able to give you my lipid/liver response as I'm getting end of cycle bloodwork.
 
jmh80 said:
Search for a thread that Klaus responded to on M-TRN.
He posted what he thought the stucture was of TRN. (Tren with an MOM ether - not a methoxy.)

No clue on this trienesterone (or whatever)...
I'll be able to give you my lipid/liver response as I'm getting end of cycle bloodwork.
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IMO i doubt it is a MOM structure because that would make it highly toxic ,and ryanism's liver enzyme levels would have been way off,so looking at just that one example,i would doubt it.
 
I don't know the effect of an MOM ether on liver values - only CH3 additions.

But, you may be right.

I'll see what it looks like and post results so that we can see for ourselves (albeit with TRN thrown in....)
 
jmh80 said:
I don't know the effect of an MOM ether on liver values - only CH3 additions.

But, you may be right.

I'll see what it looks like and post results so that we can see for ourselves (albeit with TRN thrown in....)
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Yeah i would definetly be interested on seeing your liver values after your cycle,i will definetly be checking out your log.
 
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