M-Sten or DMZ?

Just seen halo tren and stano stake. Sounds good! Or replace halo with epi.

Thoughts??
 
M.I.D said:
Just seen halo tren and stano stake. Sounds good! Or replace halo with epi.

Thoughts??
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Epi and Tren would be very dry. Halo/Tren would likely give more total mass but I would bet it would not be as high of quality though.

Epi for me was only good for like 2-3lbs running at 30-40mg/day. Halo, if the body is ready to bulk, can put on 10-15lbs.

Tren of course amplifies everything and makes u burn more fat and gives extra hard muscles and strength. Cant go wrong there except it'll be hard on ur heart..
 
fueledpassion said:
Tren of course amplifies everything and makes u burn more fat and gives extra hard muscles and strength. Cant go wrong there except it'll be hard on ur heart..
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Tren, or any steroid or PH for that matter, doesn't burn fat. It just has great nutrient repartitioning effects.
 
reps4jesus said:
Tren, or any steroid or PH for that matter, doesn't burn fat. It just has great nutrient repartitioning effects.
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Oh but they increase metabolism. Just take Tren and eat the same.

U get leaner. Inches comes off the waist. Regardless the action, it gets the fat off with a quickness.
 
I'm going to get down on that der Trest/DMZ stack.
 
I am a longtime vet on many other boards. I will go to the introduction thread and introduce myself there formally. I have been viewing threads here for a while, but nice try on the "flame"
 
Peppers said:
I figured as much.
I was just jaw jacking!
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sorry for hijack, is there some where im supposed to post an intro thread to introduce myself formally?

I am a kilclub vet on pro-muscle etc

im running the

dmz 30mg per day
msten 30mg per day
test prop 600mg ew

ai is exemestane 25mg eod
 
Tagger said:
Hell yah. I ****ing love Osta.

I've been thinking about running a DMZ log, everyone seems to like it.
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Question- I have never heard of Osta. Can this be run as PCT to act as a "SERM"- notice the quotes. I know it wont replace what a serm functions as- but for us DS users who do not like to use SERMS- could OSTA and DAA, Erase, some type of AI in general- work to get your body back to normal after a DMZ or moderatly harsh cycle?
 
barrymcokiner said:
Question- I have never heard of Osta. Can this be run as PCT to act as a "SERM"- notice the quotes. I know it wont replace what a serm functions as- but for us DS users who do not like to use SERMS- could OSTA and DAA, Erase, some type of AI in general- work to get your body back to normal after a DMZ or moderatly harsh cycle?
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No.
 
barrymcokiner said:
Question- I have never heard of Osta. Can this be run as PCT to act as a "SERM"- notice the quotes. I know it wont replace what a serm functions as- but for us DS users who do not like to use SERMS- could OSTA and DAA, Erase, some type of AI in general- work to get your body back to normal after a DMZ or moderatly harsh cycle?
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No. You gotta have the SERM.

It will help you get your levels back to normal.

Where as a SARM will make your body not eat the muscle you made on cycle. But that's it.

I took:
Nolva
Osta
Test Booster
And all of my other regular supports
 
Tagger said:
For the most part I think I looked dry. Msten is supposed to be like SD but less sides. Hell I didn't even know it was working until I went into the gym and my bench went up 40lbs (within two weeks).
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MSten is no where near as strong as DMZ
 
Tagger said:
Sten for me was sideless. No kidding, no back pumps, no acne none of that ****. I had shin splints because I gained to much weight. I kept almost all of my gains and I targeted chest and biceps and I had people asking me if I was on steroids. I was on a lean bulk. I started at 172 and stopped at 186 lost the glycogen and that stuff and evened out at 183 today. The Osta hasn't let any of my gains go honestly (little to any).
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I only PCTd like 3-4 weeks and I just eat like I did on my PCT and or cycle and I've stayed from 195+ to 200 + . Just depends how hard I've been eating in the last couple days . But since I've been off my PcT which has been like 2 weeks I haven't lost any of that mass really and I only threw some OSTA in for like a week and a half because I heard that it's suppressive
 
fueledpassion said:
I've had em both... At the same time. 20mg of each. But I personally think 10mg SD with 20-30mg of DMZ would actually be the best experience for myself.
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Beast more !!! That would destroy your energy without running test and I'm still debating whether I want trest or test lol
 
Yodambomb said:
MSten is no where near as strong as DMZ
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You taken both?

Just curious.
Yodambomb said:
I only PCTd like 3-4 weeks and I just eat like I did on my PCT and or cycle and I've stayed from 195+ to 200 + . Just depends how hard I've been eating in the last couple days . But since I've been off my PcT which has been like 2 weeks I haven't lost any of that mass really and I only threw some OSTA in for like a week and a half because I heard that it's suppressive
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Yah I did 6 weeks of OSTA when going through PCT and I didn't lose any strength or size.

It was awesome.
 
fueledpassion said:
If he does, I recommend running it at 30mg... It aint near as hard on the body as SD is. But, it also doesnt perform quite like SD either. Part of SD's harshness is the 10-15lbs of mass gains in 10 days flat, lol. All wheezin and crap goin up the stairs...
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Im running my next DMZ stack 48mgs a day for 3-4 weeks .
 
My opinion M Sten is stronger if that was the Ingredient in the old mass tabs then I say M sten **** blew me up dmz wasnt as strong
 
bert45 said:
My opinion M Sten is stronger if that was the Ingredient in the old mass tabs then I say M sten **** blew me up dmz wasnt as strong
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I do think it depends on which Sten you get.

I took the Ultradrol version.

Pretty potent stuff.
 
Tagger said:
I do think it depends on which Sten you get. I took the Ultradrol version. Pretty potent stuff.
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Maybe I'll get a bottle of that because I have a bottle of DMZ which will last me a little over 2 weeks at 48mg or 3 weeks at 32mg . So maybe I can get a bottle of the ultradrol and run that higher as well after the DMZ runs out on my next cycle . Seriously thinking of getting that Trest tho before it gets banned or I'm just wondering if I should man up and buy actually testosterone and learn how to pin...
 
Yodambomb said:
Maybe I'll get a bottle of that because I have a bottle of DMZ which will last me a little over 2 weeks at 48mg or 3 weeks at 32mg . So maybe I can get a bottle of the ultradrol and run that higher as well after the DMZ runs out on my next cycle . Seriously thinking of getting that Trest tho before it gets banned or I'm just wondering if I should man up and buy actually testosterone and learn how to pin...
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Pinning would be beneficial haha.

Idk if Antaneus Labs still makes Ultradrol.
 
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DMZ didn't do much for me other than ruin my BP and liver. Even with a hefty dose of TUDCA my liver enzymes shot through the roof. Would definitely recommend Halodrol over DMZ
 
infraredline said:
DMZ didn't do much for me other than ruin my BP and liver. Even with a hefty dose of TUDCA my liver enzymes shot through the roof. Would definitely recommend Halodrol over DMZ
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Weird ! My BP never got higher than 136/76 on DMZ but I was only doing 32mgs a day for 3 weeks tho
 
Yodambomb said:
Weird ! My BP never got higher than 136/76 on DMZ but I was only doing 32mgs a day for 3 weeks tho
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Hmm.

Could be the lower dosage yah.
 
My roommate took DMZ for 5 weeks 45 mg. Strength gains were dumb like 235 on bench to 285. But he got shut down hard. Libido absolutely crushed as well
 
Tagger said:
Hmm. Could be the lower dosage yah.
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Yeah haven't heard of too many getting high BP and liver enzymes raised on DMZ but everyone has different tolerances .. All I know is that Tren is the main one that I will always stay away from because I believe that it is the harshest and nastiest
 
Swolbraham said:
My roommate took DMZ for 5 weeks 45 mg. Strength gains were dumb like 235 on bench to 285. But he got shut down hard. Libido absolutely crushed as well
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See it's weird.

I had gains like that on my last cycle but when I got done, I didn't feel shutdown.
 
Yodambomb said:
Yeah haven't heard of too many getting high BP and liver enzymes raised on DMZ but everyone has different tolerances .. All I know is that Tren is the main one that I will always stay away from because I believe that it is the harshest and nastiest
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It is the harshest. Haha.
 
Yodambomb said:
Heart attack in a bottle ! Raises your heart rate and BP higher than any other compound has while on cycle .
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Most people pin that **** because it's that bad.

Well the pure ****.
 
Tren is not that harsh IMO... But I've ran it only at 350mg/week. Great for strength.
 
Tagger said:
Most people pin that **** because it's that bad. Well the pure ****.
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Well yeah pinning is always safer than plain orals and especially without a test base . Which is what I'm going to invest in . Just gotta read up on how to pin lol .
 
has anyone every "jump started" a halo cycle?

like msten 10/10/00/00/00/00
halo 50/75/75/75/75/75
stano 800/800/800/800/800/800

or even dmz at 30 instead of the msten
 
Yodambomb said:
Yeah low dosage is manageable if you know what your doing . Supposed to be one of the best for pure strength I heard ya !
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Yeah... When I was on tren I was able to pull 505lbs without belt @ 173lbs - and that was fast lift. Now I'm a lot heavier but not that much stronger.
 
anybody here ran that m sten and dmz stack I believe its called dmz 2.o or duper dmz or some **** im curious as to whst ur gains were I saw before and after pics andand the after pics are pretty freskin insane seems toxic as **** tho
 
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