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I’ve got a bottle of LGI M-Sten was thinking about using.... anyone ever run it?
One of the few compounds I haven’t ran but LGI and VL are good to go. You will blow up so eat eat eat.I ran VL msten last fall, muscle fullness and body weight quickly shot up to PR’s for me. Only ran it for 3 weeks though. Body weight is now back to where it was, but still look bigger in the quads/glutes and upper body. I will definitely run it again.
10 mgHow many mg’s per cap and how many
Search the forum/internet for logs there’s been tons of people who have run this over the years. It’s a very harsh compound, think superdrol. Get your supports and pct in line before you start. I also have a bottle and will probably be running over the winter. You’re gonna want something to combat lethargy as well.I plan on running 4 weeks if I do.. any harsh sides? Liver strain? I’ll be using tudca
Any harsh sides?? How did you run itI ran VL msten last fall, muscle fullness and body weight quickly shot up to PR’s for me. Only ran it for 3 weeks though. Body weight is now back to where it was, but still look bigger in the quads/glutes and upper body. I will definitely run it again.
Absolutely, I didn’t realize you were running test as wellWouldn’t test ran simultaneously combat lethargy?
I agree with all of this. No need to pile on multiple substances for the first run. Just stick with a basic test cycle and go from there in the future.Use test solo for your very first steroid run. I would personally stick to 250-300mg the very first time (this is the test dose I use now days even). If you want to use an oral like Msten at 20mg the last 3-4 weeks or so & it’s been going well that’s fine, but don’t mix 2 new things right out of the gate.
Even with exogenous testosterone, you will have probably have lethargy on Msten due to the liver strain. TUDCA will help the liver some, but you still will be inherently working it hard with Msten (probably the most toxic oral I’ve ever used once I got up around 30mg). I also experienced particularly high bp with Msten as well, and obviously lipid profile will go to hell like most orals do to most people.
You need less than you think for your first run, drug-wise. Don’t use a cannon when a .22 will suffice - you won’t be able to grow any faster once you reach that optimal hormonal stimulation threshold so don’t waste your health/money.
No, still on it and never want to stop. Just saying that I was 2 years in at that point in time.Thanks for advice!! Really appreciate it!
Question - you had been on TRT for 2 years... did you come off and recover naturally?
No cycles under his belt, when making this thread, so hopefully he took the advice and decided to cut down a bit on the compounds in the stack.OP you start the M yet ?
Test only would be plenty. If you're not experienced with these compounds, there's a risk that you run in to some estrogen problems with test and Dbol. Just sayin'.Thanks for the advice buddy really appreciate it! So I never did run the m sten, I’m about to be 27 next month, and going to run test and Dbol cycle for my first in about a month or so, trying to get back to where I was naturally…
It’s individual. Some people feel like they are going to die from 20mgs but I feel fine on it at 40mgs. Lol For me 20mgs of superdrol is equal to 40mgs msten. most already said I’m crazy for running it that high so don’t do that. It is an advanced compound either way and something you should wait on until you have experience.I plan on running 4 weeks if I do.. any harsh sides? Liver strain? I’ll be using tudca
What ya mean, “last cycle?”I plan on running my last cycle; VL Msten with Stanoplex and some cycle support etc. I have an old bottle of Swole Patrol that I probably will never take if I don’t do it now. Would it make sense to stack it or overkill?
getting older. Having a kid. Decided to just be healthier and work out with softer supplements. LolWhat ya mean, “last cycle?”
Secondly I don’t think more dht is necessary, I think you’ll feel better with a 4 andro or similar if you aren’t running test….
Gotcha with that all day!getting older. Having a kid. Decided to just be healthier and work out with softer supplements. Lol
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