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Can somone tell me if M drol is a real steroid or what it is and what it does for building muscle.
Yes it's a real steroid...don't know what else it could be...fake steroid? :think:Can somone tell me if M drol is a real steroid or what it is and what it does for building muscle.
I will someday run m drol but too damn nervous for the sides...what was your dosage btw?I just put on 15 lbs in 3 1/2 weeks if that tells you anything.
since I've never used it all I can say is that it would alot quicker in time than if you used Havoc/Epi...Ok here is my deal,i have been out of the gym for 4 years,and my chest is not as hard,how long on m drol will it take to see it back tight again if you can answer.
I've read where ppl go up to only 20mgs...30 is excessive as you see great gains at 20 but that is your call...as again I never took the stuff but I do read alotWell i started the p plex and im on 30 mg of it,and im on my first cycle of m drol,and its 10 mg and next week i will go to 20 mg
Crazy lethargy for one which everyone dreads while taking it...some have claimed almost nothing helps and you never feel like getting out of bed...plus the usual acne, oily skin...but there are more just not thinking clearly tonight...What kind of sides,im taking 1000 mg of milk thistle a day also for my liver
please tell me you have some good pct lined up for after your cycle. sure hope you do, your messing with some dangerous stuff.Well i started the p plex and im on 30 mg of it,and im on my first cycle of m drol,and its 10 mg and next week i will go to 20 mg
just to add a few more...Crazy lethargy for one which everyone dreads while taking it...some have claimed almost nothing helps and you never feel like getting out of bed...plus the usual acne, oily skin...but there are more just not thinking clearly tonight...
need a SERM...i have some stuff called inhibator e is that good
inhibit-e...and no...your libido will likely be crushed.Is inhibator E a good post cycle coming off m drol
a SERM like Nolvadex, Torem, etc...no other way around it bro...it's do or die with something like Superdrol/M drol. Being suppressed sucks a$$ and these help get you out, up and running quick...besides trying to keep gyno from developing...What is a good post cycle to take coming off m drol
That was a mistake staring before being educated.You're not the first,and you def wont be the last.I'm going to use nolva and drive for my pct after three weeks of m-drol.Some say the serm(nolva and others) is all you need though.im on my first week of m drol so i want start pct for 3 more weeks
Oh MY! Starting a cycle when you don't have PCT ready or in mind?! Ughh...go get a SERM now...im on my first week of m drol so i want start pct for 3 more weeks
Nolva you need a prescription for...technically...whats the differance between inhibator e and nolvadex
Yeah that's called getting it from someone who wants to just sell something to a newb and make more money when they can...what a great marketing strategy because it works...well my stack came with inhibator e and i dont know if thats a good one
Still not strong enough. I love the marketing technique here too by referring to it by novedex looking similar to nolvadex so people get these two mixed up A LOT and newb's go out and buy it thinking it's the same...Yea a guy at work didnt tell me all this about the m drol,so do i need a doctor to give it to me or what the best thing to get over the counter for a post cycle,i seen some stuff called novedex xt is that good
Agreed!!!!! 1000%M-Drol is hardcore: http://www.hormone-expert.com/pro-hormones/superdrol.html
Get a SERM now! I hope you research quickly or you may have a nice set of DD's by the time your done!
Most Importantly!
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/66113-no-excuses-no.html
SERM + P.C.T Guide
Now please, anyone is free to discuss this and tell me I've totally got it wrong or need to add something. Now with that said:
Bloodwork! I cannot / we cannot say this enough that it is highly recommended to get bloodwork so you know how to run your PCT and WHAT you need to run on your PCT.
1. SERM - Torem, Ralox, Nolvadex etc
Example Torem Dosing: - As per Interlocutor
Day 1-5 = 120mg Torm
Day 6-21 = 60mg Torm
Day 22-28 = 30mg Torm
You should monitor this carefully and will most likely bounce back rather quickly with this SERM as per reports given by experienced users on the board. Please someone let me know if this is overkill for Torem
Example Nolva Dosing:
Wk1: 40,40,40,20,20,20,20
Wk2: 20mg everyday
Wk3: 10mg everyday
Wk4: 10mg everyday
I am not sure why anyone would go above these dosages, as per Dinoii, as the large body of studies / material backs up dosages no more than 40mg and mainly focuses on 20mg / 10mg dosage schemes. More is not better
2. Cycle Support - Cycle Support(Highly Recommended), Liver Longer, Perfect Cycle, Liv52, NAC, SAMe.
3. AI - Formestane(Highly Recommended), 6-OXO / Androstenetrione.
4. Anti-Cort - X-Lean, Retain 2, Lean Xtreme, 11-OxO, Abliderate (8oz), B-Androstenetriol
5. Test Booster - Good reviews or I have used: Sustain Alpha(Recommended), Drive, T-Force, Activate(original).
NON-Rx SERM + P.C.T Guide
1. Non Rx SERM - Post Cycle Support(Recommended), Sustain Alpha(Recommended)
2. Cycle Support - Cycle Support(Highly Recommended), Liver Longer, Perfect Cycle, Liv52, NAC, SAMe, Advanced PCT.
3. AI - Formestane(Recommended), Sustain Alpha(Recommended), 6-OXO / Androstenetrione.
4. Anti-Cort - X-Lean, Retain 2, Lean Xtreme, 11-OxO, Abliderate (8oz), B-Androstenetriol
5. Test Booster - Good reviews or have used the following: Sustain Alpha(Recommended), Drive, T-Force, Activate(original).
All of the products and protocols above are open to discussion. This is not a hard and fast list but a guide to help.
With that said Epistane style products on a non extreme usage style cycle are going to use a less extreme PCT. Better not to have huge hormonal swinging in either direction. Calm, steady and relative therapy is recommended.
Things To Note
1. You will most likely want to run your AI (Formestane) for a month or so after finishing your PCT therapy to make sure you experience no estrogen rebound / flooding. If you run your PCT for four weeks, as you ramp down on your SERM etc ramp up on your Formestane / AI so, to as keep your estrogen under control. There has been talk of SERMs actually exacerbating this problem due to kicking test up too high then *boom!* man boobs!
2. Once done your PCT, and AI time ramp it down slowly until about one month after PCT
3. Know what gyno is and the symptoms of gyno: @@@ Gyno Questions - Please Read This First @@@ - Bodybuilding.com Forums
4. Real Gynomastia Before & After's:
5. Love your Liver!
start seeking a serm now, nolvadex is probably the best one in this situation because m-drol is known for causing gyno. so start looking, it can be found if you look hard enough, also start gathering all the info on m-drol, p-plex, and steroids you possibly can!So what can i get for my post cycle and when do i need to start it,my buddy didnt tell me i had to do all of this,i thought i was just taking a supplement,not a steriod,im only on day 2 of m drol,but week 3 of p plex,and do i just need to quite the mdrol or stay on it,
lol, no your doctor won't give you a script for it. It's prescribed to women with breast cancer, I don't think you fit that bill.Let me ask you,do you think my doctor will give me a prescription,if i tell him how dumb i was,because i really didnt know that this was the real stuff,surely he knows about that stuff.
I think everyone can get to a plateau very easy,with minimal work in the gym and in the kitchen.Lol!If you can't get to your plateau naturally without skipping out on hard work you'll never keep your gains anyhow.
Yea a guy at work didnt tell me all this about the m drol,so do i need a doctor to give it to me or what the best thing to get over the counter for a post cycle,i seen some stuff called novedex xt is that good
alright man good to hear. nolva generally seems like it prevents gyno better then torem. torem seems to bring your test level up to par a few days faster. based on your cycle though i think yopur best bet is the nolva.Ok thanks everyone for the help,i found a place to get pct,just one question,whats best nova or torem?
Links / info please?alright man good to hear. nolva generally seems like it prevents gyno better then torem. torem seems to bring your test level up to par a few days faster. based on your cycle though i think yopur best bet is the nolva.
If M-Drol is as similar to Superdrol as some people claim, then you could expect lethargy... Basically you want to take a lot of naps and don't really feel like being productive cause you're somewhat tired all the time. The best way to counter this is to eat loads of carbs (in my opinion, you're on cycle, so to a certain extent, go all out!!) and to give yourself a kick in the ass from time to time. And if you're going to nap, then make sure you're still eating and lifting like you should.What kind of sides,im taking 1000 mg of milk thistle a day also for my liver