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M-drol cycle; PCT & details included!

staybiig

New member
Hello All,
This is my first post on here but I have browsed around a little bit.
I am planning on starting a M-drol cycle within the next few weeks, I want to wait until my SERMS arrive until I start. I am being heavily assisted by one of my good friends (user name on here is “justeat”)

I have already been taking the support supplements for about two weeks now;
Milk thistle(4x/day),
Saw Palmetto(2x/day)
Hawthorn Berry(6x/day)
Taurine(2/3 before workout)
fish oil (6/day)
Animal pak (multi-v) (1x/day)

As of now they are all Walmart quality, as soon as I start the cycle I will be using top of the line milk thistle and liver supports, Ultra Thistle and Liv.52 from Natural Wellness.

Justeat has helped me set up my entire cycle as this is my first one.

The plan is M-drol 10/20/20 right now and seeing how I feel after the third week either doing a 4th week @20 or stopping.
Week one Ill be taking it at 11am
Week 2+ will be at 11am and 4pm.
Workouts will be around 6pm every day

Still planning out the best workout plan but it’s probably going to be chest, legs, arms, shoulders, back with abs n light cardio daily. Going to be 5 days weight, 1 off, 1 cardio.

My target diet is going to be ~3500-4000 calories with about 290g protein/80g fat/ 350g carbs

Now for PCT:
ZMA throught the entire thing
Continue support supps
DHEA 1 serving per day
Rise.One- new preworkout by Natural Wellness that hasn’t been released yet-like Jack3d but wih no DMAA 1,3
Dark Matter- Post workout
Natural test booster- probably Pink Magic
Clomid- 100/50/0/0
Nolva- 20/30/20/20—10
Clenbuterol- unsure the exact cycle procedures, ive read different opinions everywhere—any input??

Just waiting on the arrival of my SERMS to begin! I'll be posting my diet logs and lift logs daily as well!

Helpful input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you everyone
 
drop the dhea, and run the clomid at 50mg e/d for 3 weeks, then start the nolva on week 3 at 20mg for another 4 weeks.

I would add in an ai like topical formestane around the 3rd or 4th weeks of the nolva and a cortisol product like supress c from day one of the pct.
 
Everything looks great.I would recomend an anti cortisol tablets too lean fx works really well for me the times that I took mdrol without it for PCT my cortisol levels shot up and fat is quikly attained and cortisol eats mucsle too.The SERM isnt needed on hang becasue Mdrol doesnt convert to estrogen.definitly will if you dont use them for pct.another very very important thing is Mdrol will cause insomnia like crazy trust me on this you wont feel it at 10mg but when you tke the 20 your gonna feel like **** cuz of lack of sleep I know the half lifes are 6 hour bu what has worked perfectly for me is taking the 20mg both in the morning other wise you'll see.you'll have to take a ****load of melatonin.I'd take 6 milk thitles its a hassle but mdrol is the worst on the liver.IMO good luck
 
Okay so I just finished the first week on M-drol. I had all my food logged and written down but I cant seem to find the paper -_- As far as my meals go, it seemed to work out just about as I planned, except for i was about 60g of protein short a day. So I'm going to add a shake or two in during the day.
As far as results and how the gym went... this week was ****ing amazing.
I decided on doing a 6 day a week 1 day off workout schedule.
Every day i am taking
1-Animal Pak AM
2-Saw palmetto - 1 AM & 1 PM
4-Fish oil 1 AM & 1 PM
6- Ultra thistle (Milk thistle by Natural Wellness) through out the day
4-6- hawthorn berry- 2 @ breakfast, 2 @ lunch, 2 @ dinner
2- taurine
2-Liv 52 (liver detox) by Natural Wellness-1 AM & 1 PM
4- Fatigue relieve Plus (restores natural energy levels, includes Milk Thistle) by Natural Wellness 2 AM& 2PM
6- Applied Nutritional NeoVar (creatine) 2@ breakfast, 2 @ lunch, 2 post workout
1-Mdrol (taken with 2 Fish Oil) @ 11AM

I was also taking a pre workout (Rise.One), though I probably don't need it and am not going to continue it next week.
for post workout I took Dark Matter and an extra scoop of Isopure Whey Protein (25g)

Monday-Shoulders
superset
db press-65/10x2,70/9,80/6
side raise-25/10,22/10x2,25/7
---
superset
bentover raises-30/10, 35/10x2, 40/10- 25/6 (4th set was drop set)
front db raises- 20/10, 22/10x2, 25/9 - 15/12
---
superset
plate row- 25/10-35/10, 35/10-35/10, 35/10-35/10, 45/10
reverse fly- 160/10x4
---
arnold press into front press- 30/7x2, 27/9x2

Tuesday: Quads
superset
Squat- 225/10, 245/10, 275/10, 315/7
calf raises with same weight
---
"trap trio" seated db V raise/db shrug/crufix shrug- 15/70/15x10, 17/70/17x10, 20/70/17x10, 22/80/22x10
---
leg ext- 70/12, 105/10, 125/10, 145/11
farmer walk- 45/20sec, 60/40 secx2, 70/40sec
---
bb lunge- 40/10, 60/10, 80/10, 90/10
hack machine- 90/10, 120/10, 180/10, 230/10

Wednesday: Back
Wide Pullups- 8,7,6,3
---
BB Bent row- 155/10x2, 175/7x2
straight arm push down- 75/10, 70/10, 80/7, 80/3-60/4-40/7
---
wide grip row- 140/10,150/10x2, 160/6-100/10
^ grip pull down- 140/10x3, 160/10-100/10
---
Rack pull- 175/10x2, 225/10x2
--
db row- 65/10x2, 70/10x2
--
landmines- bar/30, 10/30x2, 25/30
rope abs- 110/30, 130/30, 140/30, 160/21

Thursday:Chest
BB Bench- 185/10, 205/10, 225/10, 245/5-135-8
flat bench fly- 35/10x2, 40/10, 45/9
---
decline BB Bench- 185/10, 195/10, 205/6, 205/3-155/3
incline fly- 35/10, 40/10, 45/10, 45/6-25/6
--
Cable cross high- 70/10x2, 74/10, 90/3-60/6-40/10
cable cross low-40/10, 45/10, 50/6, 60/4-40/6-20/10

Friday: hamstrings
Deadlift- 205/10x3, 245/6
--
BB hack squat- 155/10x2, 185/10x2
--
Glut Iso- 40/10, 60/10x3
--
standing leg curl- 30/10, 40/10x2, 50/10
--
torso rotate- 70/10 each, 90/10, 100/10, 110/10
--
calf machine- 160/12x4

Saturday: Arms
Preacher EZ bar- 75/10, 85/10, 95/10, 105/6-85/3
skull crusher- 75/10, 85/10x3
--
Upper bicept concentration- 35/10, 40/10, 45/10, 50/10
bench dip- 45/10x2, 90/10x2
lower bicept concentration- 40/10, 45/10x2, 50/10
--
Tricept press- 50/10, 60/10, 65/10, 75/10
Zottman curl- 20/10, 25/10, 30/8, 35/6-20/4
Tricept Pull- 50/10x2, 55/10, 65/10-35/6
standing cable curls each arm- 40/10, 45/10, 50/7, 60/6-35/6


Overall So far..
The gains have been insane this week!! I have so much energy in the gym! After my workout is done, I feel like i can do it all over again. My strength has increased dramatically in just this first week alone. I am so Stoked to see how next week is going to be. I have also gone from 200lbd to 207 lbs this week.
I started job training last week so I was busy and thats why I didnt get to do this daily, but next week I'll be more used to training and i'll be able to track everything precisely!

Tomorrow Starts 20mg a day. I plan on taking them at 11AM & 3 or 4 PM. Should I increase the amount of supports I am taking as well?
 
PCT is going to consist of:


ZMA throught the entire thing
Continue support supps
DHEA 1 serving per day
Rise.One- new preworkout by Rise Supplements. (comparative to Jack3d but no 1,3 DMAA) Awesome preworkout..if you want more details or a discount coupon to try the product PM me
Dark Matter- Post workout
Natural test booster- probably Pink Magic


GP Clomid- 100/50/0/0
GP Nolva- 20/30/20/20—10
GP Clenbuterol- unsure the exact cycle procedures, ive read different opinions everywhere—any input??

trying to figure out weither or not to buy formestane or lean fx- what do you think?
 
Day 8: First day of 20 mg.

Today was my off day.
fat/carbs/protein/calories
Meal 1:

5 Egg whites
1 whole egg
1 english muffin
12 oz powerade

6g/49/31/350

Meal 2:
Tuna w/ yogurt & oats n honey ceral
14/73/64/680

Meal 3:
Elite Gourmet Protein bar
12/22/30/350

Meal 4:
Longhorns steak & salmon
caesar salad
sweet potato
81/66/100/1400

Meal 5:
honey oat cluster with almonds ceral
6/78/9/390

Grand Total~~ 120g fat 289g carbs 235g protein, 3175 calories

I woke up late today, so I was short one meal.

I took the usual support supps and then mdrol at 12 & 330
 
I never had a chance to take pre-cycle pics, I may have one ill check. But I'll definitely take some pics tomorow before week two kicks off in the gym
 
Well I already have both of them haha so what one is better?

and where can i find forma?

Day 9: Shoulders

meal 1:
1 egg
2 egg whites
2 pieces of wheat toast
7/26/19/250

meal 1.5 (like 30 mins after)
carnation instant breakfast-no sugar
1 scoop iso pure protein
banana
1/0/31/270

Mdrol with 2 FO @ 11

Meal 2:
Panera Cuban Chicken Panini with chips
45/105/48/1020

Meal 3:
Elite Gorment protein bar
12/22/30/350

Mdrol with 2 Fo @ 330

meal 4:
Quiznos mesquite Chicken (without the Bacon)
38/64/39/790 (value with the bacon)

preworkout
1 scoop Rise.One
1 Scoop isopure
.75/0/25/105

Post workout
3 scoops of Inner Armour -Mass peak (serving size is 4)
5/76/37/500

Total about~~ 109 fat/ 333 carbs/ 230 protein/ 3300 calories

I gotta get the fat down and the protein up!!
I see huge gains in size though i feel like my stomach is getting fatter
I do 10 mins/day for a warmup at 5.5 with a 15 lb vest on
after each superset i run a lap aroun the track (about 1/16 of a mile- usually a total of 1 mile throughout)
and ABS at least every other day

Now onto the workout
DB Press- 65/10, 70/10, 80/7, 90/3-50/6
side lateral raise- 25/10, 22/12, 25/10, 25/6-17/5
---
bent over raises- 35/10x2, 40/10, 45/6-30/6
front lateral raises- 22/10, 25/10x2, 30/5-20/8
---
upright rows (with plates)- 25/10-35/10, 35/10-35/10, 35/10-45/8, 45/7-35/7-25/10-10/15
reverse Flys- 160/10, 175/10, 205/10, 205/6-130/10
---
DB front press- 25/10x4

felt a great pump today, huge amount of energy. I'm working out with a kid who tries to keep up with me but cant, clearly bc hes not on the same level as I am. All of my numbers have increased since last week

I took some pictures earlier today, I will post them tomorrow

Shoulder workout today
 
Clen is in my PCT to help me keep my mass gains. Since it is known to be an effective fat burner, I'm going to use it as that, So I can continue to eat more calories than normal(going to decrease during PCT but not by much) without getting fat
 
Day 10: Quads_ tuesday
Squat- 245/10, 275/10, 275/10, 315/5 - went lower in weight a tad so I could get lower in the squats
calf raises- same weight as squats
--
leg ext- 105/10, 125/10, 140/10, 160/10
donkey calf- 160/15, 200/10, 240/10, 180/15
---
hack machine- 140/10, 180/10, 230/10, 270/10

FOOD

~~ 84g fat/ 328g carb/ 325g protein/ 3400 calories
 
I honestly probably would have gone the injectable route, and if (moreso when) i do my next cycle, i will go that way. the mass and gains ive seen so far have been amazing i cant imagine what id be able to accomplish with something else.
the reason i went with mdrol over injectables was because A. my friend had it on hand and i didnt have to wait for it to come in, and B. this is my first cycle so i didnt want to go too crazy (though i know mdrol is pretty serious)
and the reason for all the PCT is id much rather be safe than sorry, from what ive been told they each help out in certain ways more than others.
The clen is going to be great for my PCT because I've kinda slacked on the cardio the past two weeks so I feel like ive gotten fat around the mid setion ( though people tell me otherwise)

When i came home for the weekend my moms jaw dropped at the size of my arms since the last week when she saw me... starting week 3 of lifting tomorrow.. im so stoked to see how this all ends!
 
Day 11: Back- wednesday 8/17

everything was done with a 15 lbs vest on

wide pull ups- 7,6,5,7
deadlift- 205/10, 245/10, 305/8, 305/5-135/6
---
barbell bentover row- 165/10, 175/10, 185/10, 205/5- 135/10
straight arm pulldown- 75/10x2, 80/9, 80/6-60/8-40/10
---
Rack Pull- 225/10x4
BB shrug- same ^
---
DB Row-65/10, 70/10, 75/10, 85/10-65/10
db shrug- 60/10, 70/12, 80/12, 100/10-60/10
---
reverse ez bar curl- 45/10, 65/10x2, 85/6-65/10-45/9
*** curl-30/10, 30/6, 25/10, 30/5-25/5-20/6-10/5
---
Food

meal 1
OJ
Banana
8 egg whites
2 whole eggs
1 scoop isopure protein

11/59/72/620

meal 2
1 scoop mass peak
1 scoop isopure
1 cup skim milk
yogurt
2/48/49/410

meal 3
sandwich from wegmans-ham turkey & provolone
yogurt + granola ceral

60/159/105/1600

meal 4 post workout
3 scoops mass peak
5/76/37/500

meal 5
Pork tenderloin

10/10/45/300

for the day
~~89g fat, 344 carbs 309 protein, 3400 calories
 
Okay time to get this thing up to date and then keep on it daily, ive been busier with training than i expected. 8-5 everyday then gym around 6ish or so, by time im done with the day im shot.

Day 12: Thursday, Chest

BB Bench- 205/10, 225/9x2, 245/8-135/6
pec fly machine- 145/10, 145/10, 175/10, 175/12
---
decline BB Bench- 185/10, 195/10, 205/10, 225/10
incline fly-40/10x3, 45/10
---
hi cable cross over- 70/10, 75/10, 80/10, 90/3-50/10
low cable cross over- 40/10, 45/10, 30/14, 50/5-30/10

Food:
Meal 1:
1 scoop isopure-45 mins before the meal.
OJ
Banana
half a bluberry bagel w/ vege cream cheese
2 whole eggs
8 egg whites
activia yogurt


23g fat/ 106g carbs/ 81g protein/ 960 calories

meal 2:
1 scoop Mass peak
1 cup FF milk
1 scoop isopure
2/37/46/360

meal 3:
granola ceral in yogurt
sushi from wegmans (2 rolls)

30/190/53/1200

meal 4
elite bar

12/22/30/350

Post workout
3 scoops mass peak
5/76/37/503


total for the day
73g fat, 436g carbs, 250g protein, 3400 calories

not sure how accurate the "calorie counter "app on my droid is
but I gotta drop carbs and up protein!
 
day 13 Friday, took off so i could make the 4 hr drive home and get there at a decent time

Didnt get a good log of my food but im pretty sure it was about average

~70g fat 350 carbs, 280 protein, 3200
 
day 14, saturday: turned it into hammys and arms because i skipped friday.

I've been wearing my 15 lbs vest every day and do every workout with it on.

Romanian deadlift-225/10, 245/10x2, 275/6-225/5
ez bar close grip preacher curl- 85/10, 95/10, 105/7, 105/5-75/6
ez bar skull crusher- 85/10x2, 95/10, 95/6-76/6
---
leg curl- 120/12 (both legs), 90/10 (each leg), 180/10 (both legs), 80/10 (each leg)
---
DB hi bicept curl- 45/10x3, 50/4-35/7
bench dip- 45/12, 80/10x2, 80/8- body weight/10
DB low bicept curl-40/10, 45/10, 50/10, 55/5-35/10
---
tri rope- 50/10x2, 55/10, 65/5-55/5-35/8
Zottman curl- 25/10, 30/10x2, 40/5-30/3-20/5
---
tricept cable pull down- 55/10, 65/10, 70/10, 90/3-45/10
standing cable bicept curl- 45/10, 50/10

FOOD: woke up later in the day (noonish)
meal 1
5 egg whites
small potato
1 whole egg
1 slice of cheese

9/30/41/380

meal 2
1 scoop iso pure
1 scoop mass peak

post workout
3 scoops mass peak

(2 combined)
8/102/100/890

meal3
fried chicken.. (damn me!)
74/36/66/1100

short day...ate like ****

total- 91g fat, 167 carbs, 207 protein, 2400 calories
 
Day 15 Sunday- off

meal 1
panera breakfast sandwhich
15/43/19/390

Meal 2
PBJ on wheat
17/60/13/435

meal 3
granola in yogurt
3/70/10/340

meal 4
pasta with seafood
10/92/36/630

meal 5
pizza
20/30/22/700

total ~68 fat/ 300 carbs/ 110 protein, 2100 calories

i feel like im missing something from here..
 
Day 16; Monday, Shoulders

today felt great, my shoulder died on presses in the beginning but then i made up for it later in the workout

Db press- 70/10, 75/10, 80/7, 80/8-40/5
side lateral raises-25/10x2, 22/10, 25/8-15/8
---
bent over raises- 35/10, 40/10x2, 50/5-30/10
front riases- 25/10x3, 30/5 - 20/10
---
plate upright row- 25/10-35/10, 35/10-35/10, 35/10-45/8, 45/10-35/10, 25/10, 10/12
Reverse fly- 100/10, 120/10, 130/10, 150/5-100/10 (different machine than last week)
---
front press- 25/10, 40/10, 50/6, 45/10-20/10

cardio 10 mins before & 10 mins after

FOOD:

meal 1
5 egg whites
small potato
1 whole egg
2 slice of cheese

20/31/38/460

meal 2
1 scoop isopure
cardniation instant breakfast
1 cup 2% milk
2/26/30/240

meal 3
tuna in yogurt
7/42/85/570

meal 4
HORRIBLE chicken wrap from quick chek
v fusion rasberry green tea
4/71/45/30

meal 5
6/41/11/240
cliff bar

meal 6-postworkout
3 scoops mass peak
1.5 piece chicken
8/78/75/700

total ~ 60g fat/ 290 carbs/ 284 protein/ 2900 calories


Today was the first day of week three, this past weekend my mom and friends were shocked at how huge ive gotten (clearly havent told them what im on) but my traps are huge, lats are noticeably huge, and my arms have gotten gigantic.
 
okay they damn pics wont upload, i have to resize them -_- ill get on them tomorrow

but on a side note, like i said this is the beginning of my third week. Im thinking about going into a fourth week what is some input on that?
tomorrow i am going to be ordering my formestane and lean fx, or should i go with suppress c instead of the formestane?
 
No way! I have nolva, clomid, & I'm also going to use clen. I have the dosage posted in one of my earlier posts.
Not sure what dosage exactly for Clen yet though

What do you recommend for the test booster?
& suppress c or formestane & lean fx?
 
Clen for pct? I don't think that is smart at all. Your BP takes a hit from superdrol, clen will make it worse. Take a break before the clen. Your heart isn't as resilient at your liver
 
jamesm11 said:
Clen for pct? I don't think that is smart at all. Your BP takes a hit from superdrol, clen will make it worse. Take a break before the clen. Your heart isn't as resilient at your liver
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okay will do, what about giving it like 2 weeks and then start up clen, ive read people doin that too after a cycle.

Day 17, Tuesday- Quads /calves


Squat- 275/10, 295/10, 315/10x2
calf raises- same
---
leg extension- 125/10,160/10, 180/10, 2006/6-90/10
donkey calf- 220/12, 260/15, 300/15, 310/12
---
hack machine-200/10, 250/10, 280/10, 230/10
leg press-360/10, 410/10, 460/10x2


Food:
meal 1:
activia peach yogurt
1 whole egg
5 egg whites
a light and fit yogurt

7/35/31/340

meal 2:
1 scoop iso pure
1 scoop max peak

meal 3:
wegmans tuna
2 slices bread
diced tomatoes
3 pieces of chicken

13/91/150/1100

meal 4
chicken

.5/0/28/120

preworout
1 scoop mass peak
2/26/13/170

post workout
3 scoop masspeak
5/77/38/500

meal 5:
scallops in spaghetti
15/77/35/610

todays total : 46g fat, 343 carbs, 347 protein, 3100 calories

I feel that today was a great day for my eating habbits lol
my legs are getting so much stronger. numbers are jumping like crazy! huge pump in the gym, i sweat like crazy when im working out, but i also drink 2.5-3 gallons of water a day. i feel like today i had a little more acne, ill just hit that with face wash and spot treatment and i should be fine. my anger is okay, certain things that id get mad at, i do but a little quicker, i can seem to control it though which is a huge plus
 
PCT update:
This is what I'm going to be running, opinions are greatly appreciated.

3rd week ends on Saturday, still thinking of going 4 weeks, what's the feelings on that??

Nolva 20/20/20/20
Cycle support- for al the support supps like MT HB SP NAC
Still going to take liv52 and extra milk thistles
Zma
Formestane- estrogen control
ReCycle- natural test booster, going to start taking this in either 3rd or 4th week of nolva
Erase- dhea and cortisol control
Rise.one- preworkout

I had an issue getting the clomid so I don't have it right now, I may be getting it later on- can I take it in the 3/4 weeks of nolva or after nolva- or should I not bother at that point?

Am I missing anything?

Thanks for following so far!
 
Day 18- Wednesday, Back

wide pull ups- 6, 8, 8, 6
deadlift- 245/10, 275/10, 315/7, 315/5-135/5
---
BB bentover row- 185/10x2, 205/10, 225/3-135/6
straight arm pull down- 60/10, 70/10x2, 80/10
---
db row- 75/10, 80/10, 85/10, 95/10-60/8
db shrug- 75/15, 80/10, 85/12x2
---
rackpull- 275/10x4
---
reverse grip EZ bar curl- 65/10, 75/10x2, 65/10
*** curl- 25/10, 27/10x3


Foods

Fat/carbs/protein/calories

Meal 1:
2 Activia yogurts
blue berry bagel
1 whole egg
5 egg whites
garden vegie cream cheese

19/75/36/620


meal 2:
1 scoop isopure
1 scoop mass peak
dannon yogurt

2/36/41/325

Meal 3
sushi
2 pieces grilled chicken

9/46/84/620

meal 4
yogurt
1 scoop protein (wegmans brand)- it was free lol
<1/2 cup of granola cereal

10/70/31/500

preworkout
1 scoop isopure

1/0/25/105

postworkout
3 scoops mass peak

5/77/38/505

meal 5
steak
red potatoes
salad

19/105/102/1050

Todays total ~~ 58g fat/ 385g carbs/ 352g protein 3520 calories

Deadlift went up a **** load.
 
hey bro im thinking of taking mdrol for 4 weeks 10/20/20/30 with CEL cycle assist and afterwards have 4 weeks of Novadex and CEL PCT. what do you think about that and how well did you maintain your gains after mdrol?
 
JSchaffrin said:
hey bro im thinking of taking mdrol for 4 weeks 10/20/20/30 with CEL cycle assist and afterwards have 4 weeks of Novadex and CEL PCT. what do you think about that and how well did you maintain your gains after mdrol?
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You should deff start a thread.
To answer your question though do you mean Novadex or Nolvadex? A serm is %100 needed if you want to bounce back before 6 months lol
Creatine is very useful in PCT IMO keep your calories high. You will lose strength due to lack of Glycogen cause Mdrol fills your muscles up with glycogen and that's why I love creatine in my PCT to try an substitute the glycogen I lose in my PCT.
 
JSchaffrin said:
hey bro im thinking of taking mdrol for 4 weeks 10/20/20/30 with CEL cycle assist and afterwards have 4 weeks of Novadex and CEL PCT. what do you think about that and how well did you maintain your gains after mdrol?
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You should deff start a thread.
To answer your question though do you mean Novadex or Nolvadex? A serm is %100 needed if you want to bounce back before 6 months lol
Creatine is very useful in PCT IMO keep your calories high. You will lose strength due to lack of Glycogen cause Mdrol fills your muscles up with glycogen and that's why I love creatine in my PCT to try an substitute the glycogen I lose in my PCT.
 
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