Juicemonkey101
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With it only being $5 a damn bottle right now... Anyone seen good results running around 20mg ED or so.... Thinking of trying it.... Opinons?
M-Dien at HIGH doses?
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T-Bone
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20 mgs a day is what I would try, if you wanna waste the money. Thats about all the money I will spend on mdien though. In my opinion its really not worth the cost to benifits ratio. Save your money for something more useful!. At this point, I would stock my shelves with some 1-test, 4ad, M5aa, and MDHT, and maybe some of the new stuff superdrol. **** MDIEN!. Its just not worth the money. You will get better results with ANYTHING ELESE!. Even if its on sale right now, its still not worth it because when you add up the price of mdien at a dosage high enough for "some" results and compare it to the price of anything elese its still not worth it!
griz145389
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I'm currently on m-dien at 9 mgs per day. I have seen fairly decent results. I am 3 weeks in and have gained 5 lbs, no bloating, no sides at all for that matter, and all of my lifts have gone up. Not the best ph out there, but $15 will get you a 30 day supply at 9mg per day.
TheManGuy
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If you wanna buy m-dien buy the 10mg caps.
It's a decent cutter.
Here's and update of my cycle:
I'm at end of week5 out of 7.
My weight is down about 4 pounds after 5 weeks of cutting, but lean mass is up about 4 pounds. -+(8 pound fat loss in 5 weeks.)
I'm running 14mg ed at the mo.
20mg ed should be very effective, I'll be using m-dien in most of my future cutting cycles.
I'm also using 40mg m5aa preworkout.
m4ohn is probly just as good, but I prefer to use that for lean bulking with other stuff in a stack.
It's a decent cutter.
Here's and update of my cycle:
I'm at end of week5 out of 7.
My weight is down about 4 pounds after 5 weeks of cutting, but lean mass is up about 4 pounds. -+(8 pound fat loss in 5 weeks.)
I'm running 14mg ed at the mo.
20mg ed should be very effective, I'll be using m-dien in most of my future cutting cycles.
I'm also using 40mg m5aa preworkout.
m4ohn is probly just as good, but I prefer to use that for lean bulking with other stuff in a stack.
CEDeoudes59
USA HOCKEY
TheManGuy said:
How long did it take to 'kick in'.
I always get too aggressive on cutting cycles too quickly...
TheManGuy
Member
Nutraplanet is the only place I know of that stocks 10mg caps.
It took about 2 weeks to kick in. When I finish my cycle in 2 weeks I'll give some feedback:
Stats before and after the cycle.
including measurments, bf %, lean mass in lb's and fat mass in lb's and total weight.
I got some sides in week 3 at 10mg ed, basically just a couple more zits that ususual.(3-5 or so, nothing major)
I then uped the dose systematically.
At 14mg ed I currently have ZERO sides. I'm not feeling that great because I'm doing body opus diet, but my strength has gone up every single workout on 90% of my lifts.
And thats on zero carbs 5 days a week. I carb up on weekends(Fryday night, Saturday all day and Sunday morning before workout) then train 3 way split, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. By tuesday I'm in ketosis and training effectively after that would be very hard.
Any more questions and I'd be glad to answer.
It took about 2 weeks to kick in. When I finish my cycle in 2 weeks I'll give some feedback:
Stats before and after the cycle.
including measurments, bf %, lean mass in lb's and fat mass in lb's and total weight.
I got some sides in week 3 at 10mg ed, basically just a couple more zits that ususual.(3-5 or so, nothing major)
I then uped the dose systematically.
At 14mg ed I currently have ZERO sides. I'm not feeling that great because I'm doing body opus diet, but my strength has gone up every single workout on 90% of my lifts.
And thats on zero carbs 5 days a week. I carb up on weekends(Fryday night, Saturday all day and Sunday morning before workout) then train 3 way split, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. By tuesday I'm in ketosis and training effectively after that would be very hard.
Any more questions and I'd be glad to answer.
BAD_MO_FO
Member
TheManGuy said:
If your strength has gone up in every single workout and you are going 0 carb 5 days a week I would say this stuff works great. I don't know about you but I would bet the ranch that most people would prefer to gain 4 lbs of muscle and lose 4 lbs of fat and be able to maintain it than to take m1t put on 15lbs of water and muscle and lose it all two weeks into postcycle. Good Results!
alpha-longhorn
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where do you get $5 a bottle of mdien? where are some of the places that still have mdien besides nutraplanet
diamonddave
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1fast has the $5 stuff.
shootmeagain
Registered User
I got good results with it at 12mg a day for 30 days. If I used it again I would probably use it in the 15mg - 20mg range. When I say results, I mean I gained strength, felt good, and dropped bf%. I doubt, no matter what the dosage, that it is good for all but the most minor of mass gains.
Still, I like the product. It serves it purpose.
Still, I like the product. It serves it purpose.
bioman
Well-known member
I've just started to stack Mdien with Sledge Test for the last 4 weeks of my cycle. I 'll post any signifcant results. I've started the Mdien dosing around 7-9mg/day and will increase that dose incrimentally to see if I can put on more LBM.
I'm a little worried about high doses of mdien on liver values et cetera so I'll likely won't go over 15-20mgs.
I'm a little worried about high doses of mdien on liver values et cetera so I'll likely won't go over 15-20mgs.
chasec
Pityin' fools since '81
that isn't the best counter-argument i've ever heard. Carb depletion, diuretic use, extreme diet, ect. all play a part in a bodybuilders condition pre-contest. the point I'm trying to make is it is possible, even easy in the short run to lose fat and gain strength. take tren for an example. it's very easy to drop 2-3% bodyfat while gaining a shitload of strength. now keeping those gains, as i said is a different story. but while "on" it is very possible.
TheManGuy
Member
Chasec it's easy if your not very lean to begin with. However if your sub 8%bf , then losing a decent amount of fat and gaining strength is quite rare, if you wanna be dry at the same time.
Obviously it depends how strong you are to begin with also. Increasing your 500lbs beanch precontest if very unlikely.
Obviously it depends how strong you are to begin with also. Increasing your 500lbs beanch precontest if very unlikely.
BigBadBootyDady
Member
I ran it at 10-12 mgs/day last spring, lost a lot of fat while putting on some muscle. What seemed most impressive was recovery.
BAD_MO_FO
Member
Chasec
Chasec, what currently legal cycle do you recommend to lose weight or even maintain weight but add strength. I personally have been unsuccessful at this endevour. The reason I used the bodybuilder example is because the guys at my gym that compete all bitch about how week they get when they diet. I'm a powerlifter so maybe I don't know as much about that situation as you. Anyway would be happy to hear what you recommend.
Chasec, what currently legal cycle do you recommend to lose weight or even maintain weight but add strength. I personally have been unsuccessful at this endevour. The reason I used the bodybuilder example is because the guys at my gym that compete all bitch about how week they get when they diet. I'm a powerlifter so maybe I don't know as much about that situation as you. Anyway would be happy to hear what you recommend.
chasec said: