Low libido on TRT?

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Morning folks

I've been on TRT for around 3 years now (200mg test E per week. Monday/Thursday 100mg split). My issue I'm facing is my libido seems almost non existent? It's actually been like this for a while but it's just slowly kept getting worse.

I have kept my e2 in check and I've tried adding in DHEA + pregnenolone. Still hasn't made a difference. Before TRT I had a strong libido and now it's flatlined.

What could be causing it? I've thought about throwing in HCG and see if that helps but I haven't yet.

I also have cabergoline on hand. It's a strong drug and will be a last resort at a tiny dose if need be.

Does TRT mess up your neurotransmitters? Be nice to feel my old libido again.

Just wondered why TRT caused this? Looking online it seems very common. Guys get a great libido and then it dies off. Exactly what's happened to me.

Any ideas what I should try?

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Morning folks

I've been on TRT for around 3 years now (200mg test E per week. Monday/Thursday 100mg split). My issue I'm facing is my libido seems almost non existent? It's actually been like this for a while but it's just slowly kept getting worse.

I have kept my e2 in check and I've tried adding in DHEA + pregnenolone. Still hasn't made a difference. Before TRT I had a strong libido and now it's flatlined.

What could be causing it? I've thought about throwing in HCG and see if that helps but I haven't yet.

I also have cabergoline on hand. It's a strong drug and will be a last resort at a tiny dose if need be.

Does TRT mess up your neurotransmitters? Be nice to feel my old libido again.

Just wondered why TRT caused this? Looking online it seems very common. Guys get a great libido and then it dies off. Exactly what's happened to me.

Any ideas what I should try?

Thanks
I'd say it's the dhea and pregnenolone, but taking them sometimes is not enough. Your shbg might be crushed too.

Hcg eod or 3 time a week for a few weeks and then swap that for the dhea and pregnenolone.

I think Vigerous Steve actually has a protocol for something similar to this. I don't remember exactly what his was tho
 

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I'd say it's the dhea and pregnenolone, but taking them sometimes is not enough. Your shbg might be crushed too.

Hcg eod or 3 time a week for a few weeks and then swap that for the dhea and pregnenolone.

I think Vigerous Steve actually has a protocol for something similar to this. I don't remember exactly what his was tho
I’d like to know what that protocol is.
 
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I’d like to know what that protocol is.
Very easy, go to Vigerous Steve YouTube and start looking through the videos. I'm sure the title names will point you in the right direction. Unfortunately I've watched like every video he's made so I'm not going to be able to figure out which one it's in but I know I saw it or rewatched it I should say within the past month or so so maybe it's in my more recent I'll have to take a look when I get a chance
 
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Definitely without a doubt has a video where a hcg, dhea and pregnenolone protocol is discussed
 

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Very easy, go to Vigerous Steve YouTube and start looking through the videos. I'm sure the title names will point you in the right direction. Unfortunately I've watched like every video he's made so I'm not going to be able to figure out which one it's in but I know I saw it or rewatched it I should say within the past month or so so maybe it's in my more recent I'll have to take a look when I get a chance
Thanks bro….I’ll check it out.
 

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@smonti think it was the pregnenalone/ dhea video from vigorous Steve or was it his neuro steroid video either way vigorous Steve is the man front double biceps from one vigorous crew member to another
 
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When I get a chance il go look through those 2 videos, I think your right
 
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I'd say it's the dhea and pregnenolone, but taking them sometimes is not enough. Your shbg might be crushed too.

Hcg eod or 3 time a week for a few weeks and then swap that for the dhea and pregnenolone.

I think Vigerous Steve actually has a protocol for something similar to this. I don't remember exactly what his was tho
I will try this. I might just add HCG to my protocol from now on. I did have it in for a period and my biggest issue was controlling e2 on it. Hcg spikes e2 so quick.

Defo gives a nice bump in feeling/mood though if you keep e2 in range. I have calcium D Glucorate and DIM their so I might load that a day prior and see if that manages to e2 a little more steady.

My body HATES unbalanced estrogen. Too low and I feel hellish. Too high and I get insane night sweats and also feel off. I've had both on many occasions. Nightmare controlling it. Also I got a gyno flare up the last hcg run I done. I might try slightly crashing e2 and then do hcg and spike it.

Dhea and Preg I've been doing for a few weeks. Dhea in me also raises estrogen. I'm being hit from many angles and it's a battle to keep it in range.

See when me e2 is between 22-35 I feel awesome. Anything out that range and I feel dreadful. It's a tight range to play with. Some guys can have high estro and feel great. Not me sadly

I've sat many a times and debated if TRT was for me. My levels in my early 30's we're very low. I started and like everyone I felt awesome. The years have passed and my mood has been all over the place and I kinda regret starting.

I had an OK physique in my early 30's but I just couldn't make any progress after then. Tried every natural anabolic their was and my physique went 3 years with no visual changes. Went on TRT and also played with high doses 500mg etc and boom my physique was changing weekly. I reckon i put easy 15lbs of mass on that first blast and year. It's remained also.

I know if I quit TRT I would feel hellish for months and my body would revert back to where it was. My line of work needs me very fit and sharp. I couldn't work while recovering from AAS So I'm just trying to find that happy balance.

I'm happy with my physique but my overall mood/libido isn't even 50% of what it use to be. I can still have sex but I just don't have that drive anymore. I'm 36 now so I know part is me just aging and not being that rampant 20 year old lol. Just part of nature.

When I've had all my variables balanced. Good TRT dose. E2 in a perfect range. My hormones balanced etc. I get that 20 year old mindset again. It comes back strong. My e2 fluctuates like crazy so my mood then quickly changes.

I'm gonna try different esters. I'm gonna ask if I could be prescribed a sustanon blend and see if that can keep my levels more stable. My doctor wanted me to try wellbutrin (Dopamine reuptake inhibitor) to see if it boosted my overall mood and libido which it's known for. That's where cabergoline was also mentioned. I did try caber once and I'm sure I should have halfed that dosed as I felt so sick for a few days. Very strong drug.

Anyway bud apologees for the book of text!

Thanks for your info
 
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No, something is definitely out of whack and needs adjusting. And 36 isint old enough to feel like that, ****, when your 56 you don't wanna feel like that. Check out those videos and look for his protocol.

There's something that happens over time where shbg can get too low or something and this is the problem it causes.

Lots of ppl think we need to crush shbg and get our free testosterone through the roof but I think we're learning that high free t dosent mean as much as we thought, there's a balance we need to keep.
 
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Following Along ???????????
 
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No, something is definitely out of whack and needs adjusting. And 36 isint old enough to feel like that, ****, when your 56 you don't wanna feel like that. Check out those videos and look for his protocol.

There's something that happens over time where shbg can get too low or something and this is the problem it causes.

Lots of ppl think we need to crush shbg and get our free testosterone through the roof but I think we're learning that high free t dosent mean as much as we thought, there's a balance we need to keep.
Yeh to be honest bud I've honestly just messed my hormones up over the years. Throwing in idiotic compounds and looking for that extra in the gym etc. I'm regretting it all now. Though... I know I'm not broken and I can be fixed.

I'm not gonna be dumb from now on. I'm 36 and don't need to kick around with a 6 pack all year. The whole fitness and vanity really do get a grip. In my early 20's I gained so much weight and got called fat for years (Which I was) but ever since I put in the work and got into great shape I have been scared to go back to that old overweight me.

I'm getting bloodwork done on Tuesday of this week and should have the results early next week. I'm not gonna guess and try and fix this I'm gonna pay a lump of money and get an in depth panel. I want to know my shbg ' Thyroid' Test levels ' Estrogen etc. I personally believe my estrogen has crashed. My overall wellbeing isn't good at all. My skin is very very dry. My hair has became very thin and brittle' Terrible sex drive etc. I am almost certain my bloods will show crashed e2. I use Aromasin for e2 management and it's very potent and reading online it's notorious for actually permanently affecting the aromatase enzyme. I also used Primo before and that smashed my e2 with a low dose. Me just being dumb with hormones. I'm terrible for experimenting. Well I was. I don't do it anymore as I just want to feel stable again. No more mood swings and up and down sex drive and battling fatigue all the time. It's just not healthy. Hormones aren't meant to be thrown about as much as what I was doing. I'm actually very mild with cycles tbh so I can only imagine what people who seriously blast feel like 🤥 Must feel miserable.

Anyway. I will keep you posted and thank you for all the help. It really does mean a lot! Apologees also for the offloading and the book of text lol

Just nice to speak to like minded people.

Thank you
 

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