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LOW dose havoc/epi

wannaBstud

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I searched a bit but didnt see too much on this.
I hear all of the time people are low dosing Pplex or Mdrol (some even as low as 5mg) but I havent seen anything on Havoc/epi.
any benefit on running say 10mg per day?

Of course, taking more is optimal but if someone speed/fitness/sports training and doesnt want more than a few lbs would it work or would Mdrol/pplex still be the best bet? or would pusling still be best way to go?
just figured you could probably run havoc for a longer period than Mdrol/Pplex for this type of set up.
 
Why not use a PH instead? They are weaker and safer, and most people run them pretty long with not that much shutdown.
 
true, I was hoping for a little strength gain too though. I never really found too much strength gain with PH anyways much less while undergoing intense training.

this time of the year there is so much going on (flag football, basketball, etc) that it seems hard to keep strength gains while doing so much. when im basically doing cardio 2 hours a day 4-5 days a week its hard to keep strength gains from the past 6 months. but, if i take a full cycle, i put on 10+lbs and then it slows me down carrying around all the excess muscle (not the worst problem to have I know- ha!)
 
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yeah, I had saw that thread. he doesnt seem to be happy even at 30mg +. thats- why i wasnt sure about taking it at a lower dose. I have a friend who took 10mg of Mdrol for 3 weeks and gain 8lbs - kept 5 of it. good strenght gains too. not bad for a short, very cheap, and not too harsh cycle. just wasnt sure if anyone had tried havoc this way.
 
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