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Looks Like Generic Labz Is Back!!!

stxnas

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Looks similar to the original Hyperdrol.

Cissus-Drol 90 Capsules

Tired of the prohormone up and down roller coaster and negative side affects?

Lean muscle comes from and increase in the rate of protein synthesis and a proper balance in hormones that make you either a stud or a dud.

The ingredients in CISSUS-Drol help your body:

Increase Natural Testosterone
Decrease Estrogen
Increase FREE Testosterone
Support Joint and Connective Tissue Health
Decrease Body Fat
Over all CISSUS-Drol is THE serious No-Prohormone, Lean Muscle Support Product of the Year!
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...sorry if you were hoping it was a PH though :ntome:
 
While I love AX's innovation...I don't usually want to pay the price, lol. GL's prices were great with their PHs. Hopefully this next generation will be the same way.
 
stxnas said:
While I love AX's innovation...I don't usually want to pay the price, lol. GL's prices were great with their PHs. Hopefully this next generation will be the same way.
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Hyperdrol was a product designed by ALRI they have since cut ties with them and since its very obvious that GL and BioTech are some how under the ALRI umbrella this was predictable.

That said WTF is DVTHF???
 
dtrain13 said:
Hyperdrol was a product designed by ALRI they have since cut ties with them and since its very obvious that GL and BioTech are some how under the ALRI umbrella this was predictable.

That said WTF is DVTHF???
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Probably nettle root.
 
dtrain13 said:
Hyperdrol was a product designed by ALRI they have since cut ties with them and since its very obvious that GL and BioTech are some how under the ALRI umbrella this was predictable.

That said WTF is DVTHF???
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Ummmm........

why would you want the OLD hyperdrol? the new one KICKS ASS!
 
A lignan extract of nettle root: 3,4-divanillyltertrahydrofuran.
 
Quit raining on my parade Mace, lol...but you do make a valid point!
 
Forgive me for being slow but I could put this in my supp stack when I run Superdrol in a couple of months:think: right?
 
what's the take on nettle root extract ... some say it aggrivates gyno, i've also heard it's not sucha good idea during pct.. as the big debate is whethe or not to use massfx during pct, namely because of the 3,4-divanillyltertrahydrofuran. bigcat.dinoii.dr.d all have their takes. D, supports, dinoii i can't remember where he stands, bigcat i'm pretty sure is not for it.

any help would be great as to anyone else's incite experience. personaly i have developed a bit 'o' gyno from TRYING, just trying a couple sprays of that ergopharm atd leaning agent. skulpt. bad idea to put it on your chest. but mfx ended up aggrivating it kinda making it bigger. so i wonder if the nettle root has anything to do with it... i dunno like i said correct me if i'm lost. usually i am.. look at my avatar. that's what i look like doing all of this forum search and pubmed reading at 3am. .. minus the cig of course.
 
It might not be the nettle causing your gyno Add. According to ALRI (follow me here for a minute) the spirosten that they use in BAM actually relies a small part on estrogen. Now Mass FX uses a spirostan...I'm not sure how much of a difference there really is from one to the other, BUT IF they are similar it could be the spirostan causing the gyno, not the nettle. Just a thought I had.

Mace, do you think your spiro could attribute to gyno?

Author L. Rea said:
As a whole post cycle therapy refers to Post Cycle Therapy and many equate that to post anabolic steroid use. But since we keep the discussions on AB to supplementation it changes the answer a little.

During any supplemental protocol that inhibits HPTA activity (Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Testes Axis...the boys kickin' out the androgens they make due to series of other glands telling them to do so or not) there are two possible negative feed back loops that induce this response.

1) Estrogen negative feed back loop (too much estrogen)

2) Androgen negative feed back loop (Androgen over saturation/stimulation of the neuro-net)

So the normal goal is to get the estrogen level down while stimulating the pituitary and hypothalamus to start telling the testes to get back to work.

BAM has a 4-Spirosten that does cause a mild but effective increase in estrogen. Naturally this is intended as it is a synergist for support of a true pro-anabolic environ. Is it enough to cause HPTA suppression? Yes, but to a far lessor and more normal level, not excessive...and more importantly FAR less than would allow it to be among the group of products that would REQUIRE post cycle therapy. The suppression just is not that significant. It could be used as a bridge between suppressive products, which is what Max was likely referring to. But as an optimal PCT product Restore is better designed for this task. Make sense?
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it shouldn't!

i've done several cycles without a problem. but the few issues that have popped up have been prolactin issues, not estrogen issues.........

i think it all depends on what you are pre-disposed too!
 
i was also thinkin possibly prolactin as well.

nonetheless. i do not feel that mfx causes any gyno, but it made my aggrivated...
 
powerfull ive read is a prolactin inhibitor as well, another thing you can stack in your pct thatll raise the test and then no more prolactin worries....
 
addijhaq said:
what's the take on nettle root extract ... some say it aggrivates gyno, i've also heard it's not sucha good idea during post cycle therapy.. as the big debate is whethe or not to use massfx during post cycle therapy, namely because of the 3,4-divanillyltertrahydrofuran. bigcat.dinoii.dr.d all have their takes. D, supports, dinoii i can't remember where he stands, bigcat i'm pretty sure is not for it.

any help would be great as to anyone else's incite experience. personaly i have developed a bit 'o' gyno from TRYING, just trying a couple sprays of that ergopharm atd leaning agent. skulpt. bad idea to put it on your chest. but mfx ended up aggrivating it kinda making it bigger. so i wonder if the nettle root has anything to do with it... i dunno like i said correct me if i'm lost. usually i am.. look at my avatar. that's what i look like doing all of this forum search and pubmed reading at 3am. .. minus the cig of course.
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IMO the nettle extracts are BS. The benefits don't outweigh the costs for me.
(If it were 10 bucks for a month's worth of the 90+% extract - then maybe, just maybe.)
 
welp, i also feel that if i ran it with hd-x2 in regards to the 6-bromo dosage being higher, it would have helped with any possible effects..

and that's really good to know what powerfull helps with prolactin.. as cabergoline has taken alot of heat in regards to its ability to cause serious heart problems.

thanks for the info guys, you really helped out alot.

now the powerfull, are we talking generation 2? or the 1st gen that i can buy in bulk?
 
addijhaq said:
welp, i also feel that if i ran it with hd-x2 in regards to the 6-bromo dosage being higher, it would have helped with any possible effects..

and that's really good to know what powerfull helps with prolactin.. as cabergoline has taken alot of heat in regards to its ability to cause serious heart problems.

thanks for the info guys, you really helped out alot.

now the powerfull, are we talking generation 2? or the 1st gen that i can buy in bulk?
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both are the same just one is a higher extraction percentage i belive and requires less dosage mg wise for the same effects.

and it works great in bulk btw..... capping some myself right now.
 
I have tried both the New Powerful and the old version. The new version really didn't do anything at all except slight sleep benefits at 12 caps a day!. The old Bulk Powerful works much much better than the new version for some reason. I believe a lot of other people have had the same issues in regards to the old verses the new version.
 
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