Mathb33
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Yeah I wasn’t going to use it in the first 8 weeks. Appetite is rarely a problem for me each off season we push it harder and I’ll add it when I’m over 4K calories of clean food, probably around 5k
Looking for you guys opinion. Debating..
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Smont
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I don't think I know more then anyone else, but I do think a lot of people read a question on the forum and they start overthinking and don't actually address the question in it's simplest form.@Smont you know your stuff buddy!
On the other side of the coin, when it comes to helping myself I'm terrible, I overcomplicate the crap out of everything lol
Smont
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I'm almost ready to start my bulk and I've been contemplating 40 different cycle possibilities, wrote and rewrote my meal plan 6 time's, and can't decide which training program I want to go with.
When in reality none of those things are necessary, all I need to do is pick a drug I agree with, add a extra meal in and pick any old program and make sure I hit failure and progressive overload a couple times a week.
When in reality none of those things are necessary, all I need to do is pick a drug I agree with, add a extra meal in and pick any old program and make sure I hit failure and progressive overload a couple times a week.
Mathb33
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Exactly lol. Whatever test level you’re comfortable running and feels safe for YOU, another compound at a lower dosage, then it’s all about food and progressive overload with a real effort in the gym (which only 2-5% of people really do) and then the magic will slowly happen! I used to overthink drugs so much hahaI'm almost ready to start my bulk and I've been contemplating 40 different cycle possibilities, wrote and rewrote my meal plan 6 time's, and can't decide which training program I want to go with.
When in reality none of those things are necessary, all I need to do is pick a drug I agree with, add a extra meal in and pick any old program and make sure I hit failure and progressive overload a couple times a week.
Smont
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I come up with all these cycle ideas to toss around but most of the time it's really just to swap ideas and make some interesting Convo. I pretty much end up doing the simplest things.
Increase my test dose, add a second compound. Use those for a while and then bump the dose or add a third.
I know not many ppl want masteron in there bulking cycle but I'm probably going to start my cycle with 400 test and 200 mast. Or 450 test 300mast. Because I know that's a lot more then my trt and those doses of those compounds don't give me any negative effects and they make me feel good
Mathb33
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I don’t find it necessary weird, masteron could have its place... probably could prevent the need of an AI...etc.. dhts can be very useful. I’m just not sure it’s worth it for people that run it off season because they think it’ll keep them hard and drier
Smont
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I find it gives me a little strength, a strong mental boost too. I feel like I can use those 2 things to help drive progress in the gym and aside from that just to add total mg to the cycle.
I've also never used it on a cycle when I was already lean, I always threw it in thinking it would help me get lean and that did not pan out. But I definitely notice a difference with it in vs. out so I know it's doing a little something
Uncle_E
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@Mathb33 I’ve enjoyed using MK over the years and now have access to pharma GH. I honestly don’t know enough about it and am just starting to research it for future use. You ran it for 14 months then dropped it - what changes did you notice to weight, strength, etc when you dropped it? Yeah m assuming that a 1 month run would not be worth the cost, what do you think a minimum run should be?
Mathb33
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I actually decided to simply resume my hgh coming out of my prep for rebound. Spent a couple thousands to have my kits. When I dropped it I noticed nothing. The bloat / water retention is highly user dépendant and even more importantly it depends of how lean or fat you are. You’ll see a pattern with people claiming stuff is bloating them are all usually over 15% bf. Also I’m on gear so obviously whatever glycogen / intra muscular retention that hgh brings gear also brings so obviously I didn’t see much by discontinuing it. Now did it help me during my year of use? Absolutely. People tend to take it and see results within a month or two... which you won’t. Then these people go and bash hgh and say it’s useless. Hgh will do nothing on it’s own except sleep benefits, anti aging etc. Now add this to steroids and you WILL slowly but surely gain serious benefits from it. Growth hormone is capable of actually creating new lean tissue (muscle) which gear don’t. Gear simply make the already existing tissue bigger. It limits your growth. You need to see long term with hgh.
Uncle_E
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What do you take specifically? I’ve been using CJC 1295 and Ipamorelin for a few weeks now and I’m looking to buy more or try something else to go along with my test and tbol cycle. Im already pretty lean, so the goal is to maximize lean tissue while on cycle then keep running it after. Would I be better off with HGH 191, a GHRP, IGF-1 or keep running what CJC and Ipamorelin?
Uncle_E
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What do you take specifically? I’ve been using CJC 1295 and Ipamorelin for a few weeks now and I’m looking to buy more or try something else to go along with my test and tbol cycle. Im already pretty lean, so the goal is to maximize lean tissue while on cycle then keep running it after. Would I be better off with HGH 191, a GHRP, IGF-1 or keep running what CJC and Ipamorelin?