Epicatechin is fake, fraudulent, totally made up. You get enough epi eating just a pound of dark chocolate -- it still won't do anything. Doesn't even effect gains. It might give you a good pump if its mixed with some other pro-pump stuff like citruline, niacin, or huffing a bunch of whipped cream cans before hitting the gym floor.
Laxogenin is the one true supp. (Edit): This can possibly be attributed to the fact that ~75% of Laxogenin supplements contain NO 5-HYDROXY-LAXOGENIN to begin with! Bros, who are wise in the ways of science, have tested publicly available Laxo supps and found most contained no laxogenin and almost all contained off-label androgens.
So if you take Laxogenin you'll probably get huge but its because ur eating random steroids from some chinese lab. Its cheaper for them to produce those than to actually source laxogenin.
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