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LOG: Methastradrol and L-Lmg stack

oli where have you been reading up on it at? Care to share some links, since I suffer from superdrol insomnia I would like to read up more on tren. Honestly can oral tren at a moderate dose really be worse then 40mg of superdrol far as sides go?

P.S. I should note that roommate quit his cycle early and started his post cycle I guess I am partially to blame because this was his first oral ds cycle. He has done several AAS cycles so I figured superdrol would be a breeze well that didn't turn out as I expected. The sides outweighed the pros for him. He was lethargic like me all the time, hpta shutdown and he said " its ****ing with my emotions" . Hard rock supplements may be a new company with not many logs of there sd clone but for 20 bucks its worth the money just prepared to wrestle the superdrol lethargy demon lol
 
Sorry i didn't save any links...i just go to different random forums. i find them by typing in oral tren or methyltrienolone on Google. Some logs are old as crap, but i figure it's all the same. Your 500mcg dosing scheme sounds about right ( at least from what i've read ).
 
im sorry dude but running methyl tren for your first cycle is stupid- incredibly stupid.

the sides will make SD look like its creatine(the sides are going to be 20x worse), and no test will not help this.

you also run that **** for four weeks and your going to be in the hospital- and im NOT over exagerating- it is THE MOST toxis steroid there is.


shoulda gotten dianabol, and if you have the money too- get dianabol and put the methyl tren away for a later date
 
Running Methyl Tren for a 1st time run is stupid, but in Twistedfate's defense - it isn't his first rodeo. No doubt that m.Tren is one of the most, if not the most toxic shlt out there. And not that it makes it okay or justifies the use, but i've seen quite a few logs where guys are running it for 2-4 weeks [with sides: sweats, insomnia, lethargy] and saying they're ok. Some have even said that it's not even all that great. But who reallyknows, right? If he does go & run m.Tren, I would def. suggest bloodwork to see if the liver's okay from previous cycles. So, all I can really advise is to really read-up on it. And decide whether or not the potential adverse effects are worth it.
 
I already did my research and made the decision to go with oral tren and it should be here in a few weeks schwell. I have taken higher doses of sd with pplex and various other designer steroids, wasn't the best idea because now I have lumps behind my nipple but my point is its not my first rodeo.I read where people saying 60mg of sd would kill a horse, not really but no one would ever dose that high well I did for a week just to see the effects and found the sides outweighed the gains so I stick to 30 to 40mg. I will do the same for oral tren, I will treat it with respect but I have every intension of running the cycle. You may think its stupid but to each is their own, I will log it and hopefully you follow the journey. Rest assured that I will be able to handle it
 
twistedfate said:
I already did my research and made the decision to go with oral tren and it should be here in a few weeks schwell. I have taken higher doses of sd with pplex and various other designer steroids, wasn't the best idea because now I have lumps behind my nipple but my point is its not my first rodeo.I read where people saying 60mg of sd would kill a horse, not really but no one would ever dose that high well I did for a week just to see the effects and found the sides outweighed the gains so I stick to 30 to 40mg. I will do the same for oral tren, I will treat it with respect but I have every intension of running the cycle. You may think its stupid but to each is their own, I will log it and hopefully you follow the journey. Rest assured that I will be able to handle it
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oh, Ive taken extremly high doses of steroids 180 mgs of m14add(methyl)
60 mgs dianabol(methyl)
60 mgs epitho(methyl)
No, I dont think its stupid, let me re word that

not needed. Superdrol is strong, but it is NOTHING compared to methyltrienolone at all.
Secondly Methyltreinolone is pretty often faked, so unless you trust your supplier- wouldnt run it.

if ran superdrol- if you think the lethargy/insomnia is bad on superdrol, be ready bro, also be ready for INSANE agression, nothing like superdrol, tren is another beast.

I am on trenbolone aceatate- I almost beat the piss out of some dude the other day, just for telling me something while I was driving, and im NOT a violent person

im glad youve done your reaserch but please im begging you to not run 500mcg of methyl tren for 4 weeks
why not do this bro 200/300/400/500- even at 200 you will see results i promise


o God be ready, run the cycle BUT drop it if you need to man, seriously

okay i will for sure follow but be prepared!
 
schwellington said:
im sorry dude but running methyl tren for your first cycle is stupid- incredibly stupid.

the sides will make SD look like its creatine(the sides are going to be 20x worse), and no test will not help this.

you also run that **** for four weeks and your going to be in the hospital- and im NOT over exagerating- it is THE MOST toxis steroid there is.


shoulda gotten dianabol, and if you have the money too- get dianabol and put the methyl tren away for a later date
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thought anadrol was the most toxic
 
im kind of new to all this mdrol and whatever else but is the stuff yall talking about illegal? im looking for a prosteroid/hormone im not down with that illegal stuff any advice?
 
cbr1000rr said:
thought anadrol was the most toxic
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no its not. Anadrol is very toxic, but not like methyl treinolone. The reason you see more about anadrol being most toxic, is because the large majority of people won't touch methyl trienolone, because of toxicity and side effects, its not a widely used steroid
 
schwellington said:
no its not. Anadrol is very toxic, but not like methyl treinolone. The reason you see more about anadrol being most toxic, is because the large majority of people won't touch methyl trienolone, because of toxicity and side effects, its not a widely used steroid
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gotcha. ill see just how toxic adrol is in a couple months when i hop on my test e and anadrol kicker :saevilw:
 
TexasHulk 361 said:
im kind of new to all this mdrol and whatever else but is the stuff yall talking about illegal? im looking for a prosteroid/hormone im not down with that illegal stuff any advice?
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Ok since you are new, I will break it down for you. Mdrol is not a prohormone it is a designer steroid a clone of superdrol which is very strong. I wouldn't advice running mdrol for your first cycle. My best advice is to do your research to get proper supplements to preload, to take on cycle and most important your post cycle. I would look into max Lmg for a first cycle personally I loved it and its not nearly as harsh as superdrol. Google "cycle support" by the pills and preload for 2 weeks then take them on cycle as well. You will need a serm like nolvadex or clomid for your post cycle google research chem viola
 
TexasHulk 361 said:
im kind of new to all this mdrol and whatever else but is the stuff yall talking about illegal? im looking for a prosteroid/hormone im not down with that illegal stuff any advice?
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Legal, illegal, it doesn't matter. They'll all be "illegal" some day but the fact is, it is a steroid. It's just OTC...for now! So if you're "not down" with taking steroids/hormones, then you need to steer clear of this stuff.
 
my methastadrol cycle has gone well. Does anyone know if milk thistle inhibits the effectiveness of a ph? I noticed my gains got better when I stopped taking milk thistle. I'm going to get backk on it post cycle (in a couple days). But for future reference, im curious about this
 
I have read milk thistle can inhibit the absorbtion of the steroid but to what degree is up for debate. From the research I have done its best to take the milk thistle at a different time from the superdrol if you are going to take it. Personally I noticed my weight increased also when I quit taking milk thistle the 3rd week into my cycle and thats when the gains are suppose to end on superdrol. How much weight did you gain so far? Im at 157lb working to get to 175 before I cut weight
 
twistedfate said:
I have read milk thistle can inhibit the absorbtion of the steroid but to what degree is up for debate. From the research I have done its best to take the milk thistle at a different time from the superdrol if you are going to take it. Personally I noticed my weight increased also when I quit taking milk thistle the 3rd week into my cycle and thats when the gains are suppose to end on superdrol. How much weight did you gain so far? Im at 157lb working to get to 175 before I cut weight
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I gained 5lbs over my first two weeks of the cycle. I plateaued there for a few days, then I gained another 5lbs the past week when i stopped taking milk thistle. I have about 2-3 days left before the cycle is over. I started at a little under 195, now Im at a little over 205. I'm going for pure bulk, I don't have a problem getting cut when I want to, its much harder for me to put on weight, so this 10 lbs is a nice gain for me. If I could put on a couple more lbs before the end of the cycle I'd be real happy.
 
update: I just found out that methastadrol is actually a phera plex clone not a superdrol clone. The chemical on my bottle is 2a 17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one 17b-ol now on my beastdrol bottle a superdrol clone its 17a Dimethyl -5a-Androst-3one-17b-ol. Actually its cool with me because when I did p-plex I enjoyed the cycle just like I did this cycle, but being a wet compound I will lose some water weight
 
twistedfate said:
update: I just found out that methastadrol is actually a phera plex clone not a superdrol clone. The chemical on my bottle is 2a 17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one 17b-ol now on my beastdrol bottle a superdrol clone its 17a Dimethyl -5a-Androst-3one-17b-ol. Actually its cool with me because when I did p-plex I enjoyed the cycle just like I did this cycle, but being a wet compound I will lose some water weight
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2a,17a-di-methyl-etiocholan 3-one,-17b-Ol is 100% Superdrol bro, not Phera.

Etiocholan = 5a-Androst

They're both Superdrol, just written differently.

Hope this helps.
 
DonnyG said:
2a,17a-di-methyl-etiocholan 3-one,-17b-Ol is 100% Superdrol bro, not Phera.

Etiocholan = 5a-Androst

They're both Superdrol, just written differently.

Hope this helps.
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I noticed the difference in the way they wrote it when I was looking into buying this, and Yeah I heard someone else say the exact same thing about how its just a synonym for the same hormone
 
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