let me tell you about liv-52 on 9/17/09 i had blood work done and my enzimes were ast 69 and alt 165 and on 1/6/10 they were ast 62 and alt 89 and thats while on 600mg test c,400mg npp a week and 50mg win a day.I took it 3 pills with breakfast lunch and at bedtime with a gram of milk thissle.I wont change the **** for nothing.It has worked for me.Am 43 and for 20 years i abused alcohol and this is the lowest they have ever been.Just my 2c