limit on COLD MEDICINE!!!

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This is a crock of bull **** and an infraction on my freedom. They should limit how much little debbie someone should buy before cold medicine.

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I'm all with you on exercising liberties, but unless you are going on an expedition to Antarctica, there really is no reason to buy even 300 Sudafed caps per month. The stuff is a key component of meth, and while I am all in favor of liberties (for AAS and herb :head: ), drugs like meth are extremely addictive and have no place in society. If you need 300 caps/month, you probably need to see a Dr.

Funny thing is, it doesn't mention ephedrine HCL. At least that suggests that for now, they aren't chasing bodybuilders.
 
Beowulf said:
Funny thing is, it doesn't mention ephedrine HCL. At least that suggests that for now, they aren't chasing bodybuilders.
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If they ever do, just stock up when your bulking. :study:
 
Well, in Illinois Psuedo eph has been limited for some time now. Reg Ephedrine has been illegal for 2 years in Illinois Damn Tricky****y Durbin. But with this psudeo eph limit, it is good Meth is in no way good, or healthy. And this epidemic is outta of control even the middle girl on Full house got hooked on Meth, and her husband was a cop!!!
 
been limited here too..if you buy them, you have to show ID, they enter it in a database and keep track of how much you buy each month, and if you buy at other stores to stockpile... a real pain in the a$$ when you are trying to buy medicine for your sick kid and have to be at the mercy of a pharmacy's hours and show all kinds of ID.
 
What I don't understand is why Ephedrine HCL is illegal but the pharmacy stores can still sell Primatene (OTC asthma-med) and its knockoff's...all made from Eph HCL.
 
stxnas said:
What I don't understand is why Ephedrine HCL is illegal but the pharmacy stores can still sell Primatene (OTC asthma-med) and its knockoff's...all made from Eph HCL.
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Ephedrine is actually available as a supp again, but in the interim it was available as a bronchiodialator [sp?]
 
I mean I can understand why they are limiting it, and hell we wouldn't use more than 300 pills in a month anyways! Hell even when I am sick I may only use 3 lol.

But holy $hit do I agree with you that they should limit little friggin debbie before they limit things like DHEA. Such beaurocratic BULLLLLLLL!!!!
 
So a direct prohibition of actual meth hasn't done a thing to stop people from using it and cooking it up in their kitchens and dealing it. Hmm, I'm sure alimiton how much cold medicine people can buy is just what is needed to turn this around.

This is like trying to stop gun crimes by outlawing bullets. It will do nothing. If it is at all affective in stopping domestic meth manufacture all that will do is give foreign suppliers another easily smuggled product to sell.
 
I,m not sure exactly how to stop the meth problems, but I know some people that r really into meth and some of them have said it is harder to get the Nazi meth now, but there is now more of that Ice **** around here, I personally have lost a couple of good friends to that ****, and have seen many lives ruined because of it, but like CDB pointed out where there is demand there will always be supply...
 
Its funny they left a little tid bit out about the new law. From my understanding they added in that if you have suspicion that someone is a cook you can now enter without a warrant! I don't think the limit will make a difference, they will just start robbing the places and get all they can. Its not like they have been buying it anyway.
 
Beowulf said:
I'm all with you on exercising liberties, but unless you are going on an expedition to Antarctica, there really is no reason to buy even 300 Sudafed caps per month. The stuff is a key component of meth, and while I am all in favor of liberties (for anabolic steroids and herb :head: ), drugs like meth are extremely addictive and have no place in society. If you need 300 caps/month, you probably need to see a Dr.

Funny thing is, it doesn't mention ephedrine HCL. At least that suggests that for now, they aren't chasing bodybuilders.
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Lots of people say the same thing about steroids that you're saying about meth. If you want the freedom to do your thing then you have to give that same freedom to others to do theirs. Simple analogy is freedom of speech. You want to say your thing, then you've got to put up with someone else saying theirs, even when you don't agree with it.
 
The problem with your argument is that meth and steroids are too different to make an analogy.

Meth is highly addictive, causes permanant damage, and use of meth often leads to other drugs and crimes, plus it is a burden on society because of the crime and poverty it breeds.

The same cannot accurately be said of steroids.
 
jrkarp said:
The problem with your argument is that meth and steroids are too different to make an analogy.

Meth is highly addictive, causes permanant damage, and use of meth often leads to other drugs and crimes, plus it is a burden on society because of the crime and poverty it breeds.

The same cannot accurately be said of steroids.
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The prohibition of Meth and other rec. drugs cause the crime and poverty, not the actual drug itself.
 
We'll have to agree to disagree. With this particular drug, the collateral damage is too great. Addiction often results in child abuse, neglect, and malnutrition, and this creates a burden on society as the children are either paid for by public assistance or taken by the state, clogging up the courts and resulting in the state paying for foster care.
 
Meth is some nasty ****. But I totally agree that prohibition is not the answer to the drug problem. It never will be. All it does is create more crime, ruin lives, and put lower-quality and contaminated drugs on the street that end up injuring or killing the hopeless people that are addicted to them.

Where there is a demand, there will always be a supply. Just because they are making it harder to get cold medicine, doesnt mean meth will go away. It will be a pain in the ass for the meth cooks that arent really chemists and just follow a procedure. When some entrepenuerial college student comes up with another route, everone will switch to another method. In the meantime more will just be imported.

Its a viscious cycle that the government will never, ever win. There's got to be a better way. Im not quite sure what that is myself, but I know the current system is a miserable failure.

BV
 
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