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SpmnE9zero

SpmnE9zero

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Little history - Been lifting for about 12 years on and off. I got pretty serious over the last 4 years, but my wife and I had a baby so I had'nt stepped foot in the gym for 10 months. I have been back for a few weeks now and am going to start a cycle to kickstart things a little as I am an impatient man when it comes to gaining my mass back. I should also let you know this is not my first time using ph's.

age - 29
height - 6'1"
weight - 193.5 lbs
bf % - (guessing) 10%

Trying to accomplish - gaining mass back with little to no fat retention.

cycle:

Cycle Assist - 1 week prior to H-Drol and throughout the cycle.
Milk Thistle - (This will be in addition to Cycle Assist, I know I know, not necessary, well you can never be too safe!) 1 week prior to H-Drol and throughout the cycle.
Hawthorne Berry - 1 week prior to H-Drol and throughout the cycle.
H-drol - 25 / 50 / 50 / 50 / 75 / 75

post cycle:

Tamo (Liquid Nulva) - not sure of dosage just yet.
Sustain Alpha - not sure of dosage just yet.

Information on dosages for post cycle would be appreciated, but not necessary as I can figure it out. No biggie, but again appreciated if provided.

Additional supps:

A Daily
BCAA's
Jack3d
Protein Shakes
 
lennoxchi said:
h-drol for mass? go back to the drawing board
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I did a cycle similar to the one I just posted about a year ago and had phenomenal mass gains, but I retained a good bit of unwanted weight with it as well, this time around I will be dieting a little more on the strict side.

Would I be better off going the M drol route in your opinion then?

I appreciate the feedback but a little advice would go a long way as opposed to open criticism.
 
H-drol at 25 mg, is useless(IMO). Id start at 50 and ramp it upt to 75 after the first or second week. Grab a second bottle, its cheap enough. The rest looks good.
 
I mean I think Ideally 75 mg at 6 weeks is nice. And if you ran a similiar run last year I dont think this is over board. Ive seen people run it up to 150mg.
 
JoHNnyNuTZ said:
I mean I think Ideally 75 mg at 6 weeks is nice. And if you ran a similiar run last year I dont think this is over board. Ive seen people run it up to 150mg.
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Hmmm, well I better stay on the safer side. Maybe I just start out at 75 and run it thru the 6 weeks then.
Is it wise to try and stay clean thru this or should I just get the calories in? I want to stay as lean as possible but I dont want to waste the product either.

Also was wondering what would happen if I ran 1 bottle of H then ran M for the second bottle, what would be the pros and cons of this? Is this a bad idea all together?
 
You talking M-drol? If you are I would run the m-Drol first then the H-drol. But you should look at unreals guide to superdrol for the m-drol dosing.Start the m-drol at 10, then go to 20, if the sides arent bad you then COULD go up to 30, butt....You can search for that guide. Alot of gfood info on there
 
JoHNnyNuTZ said:
You talking M-drol? If you are I would run the m-Drol first then the H-drol. But you should look at unreals guide to superdrol for the m-drol dosing.Start the m-drol at 10, then go to 20, if the sides arent bad you then COULD go up to 30, butt....You can search for that guide. Alot of gfood info on there
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Wow M is that much more potent then H?
Okay I will go that route then, I dont want to mess around, no sense, just do it and do it right! Sides? this is why I will have Tamo on hand, hopefully nothing comes of it. I have had minimal sides from anything I have ever taken, but if M is that much more potent then H then I guess I will really need to watch it.
 
SpmnE9zero said:
I did a cycle similar to the one I just posted about a year ago and had phenomenal mass gains, but I retained a good bit of unwanted weight with it as well, this time around I will be dieting a little more on the strict side.

Would I be better off going the M drol route in your opinion then?

I appreciate the feedback but a little advice would go a long way as opposed to open criticism.
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i had no idea that you wanted to "lean bulk". now that we know that then hdrol might give you aid in your recomp. steroids in their true nature do not know that they are better for leaning or bulking properties.

step 1: take steroid

step 2: eat like a motherf***er

step 3:gain weight

that's pretty much it. the difference that comes into play is how much water is retained and how much weight will be held during the cycle. some compounds are better for gaining weight (deca, test) and some things are better for leaning out (var, mast, winny).

now all this is bs because even if i take winny, test p and tren i can gain considerable weight if i eat 5000 cals a day. however if i eat 3000 and eat "clean" the weight should be quality and not too much fat. when i hear someone say "i want to gain mass" i usually assume they want as much as possible and that they plan on cutting later well after the cycle is done. my misunderstanding.
SpmnE9zero said:
Wow M is that much more potent then H?
Okay I will go that route then, I dont want to mess around, no sense, just do it and do it right! Sides? this is why I will have Tamo on hand, hopefully nothing comes of it. I have had minimal sides from anything I have ever taken, but if M is that much more potent then H then I guess I will really need to watch it.
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yes you do need to watch it. it is nothing like hdrol. i don't know what else you've taken but it's strong. not to worry if your support supps are there though, liver, bp so on.
 
lennoxchi said:
i had no idea that you wanted to "lean bulk". now that we know that then hdrol might give you aid in your recomp. steroids in their true nature do not know that they are better for leaning or bulking properties.

step 1: take steroid

step 2: eat like a motherf***er

step 3:gain weight

that's pretty much it. the difference that comes into play is how much water is retained and how much weight will be held during the cycle. some compounds are better for gaining weight (deca, test) and some things are better for leaning out (var, mast, winny).

now all this is bs because even if i take winny, test p and tren i can gain considerable weight if i eat 5000 cals a day. however if i eat 3000 and eat "clean" the weight should be quality and not too much fat. when i hear someone say "i want to gain mass" i usually assume they want as much as possible and that they plan on cutting later well after the cycle is done. my misunderstanding.
yes you do need to watch it. it is nothing like hdrol. i don't know what else you've taken but it's strong. not to worry if your support supps are there though, liver, bp so on.
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thanks man, good stuff right here
 
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