MrKleen73
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She is holding it wrong...
That's how she holds it when she goes down on her girlfriend. Kind of a "Put my lips on the pink this in the stink." situation.
KLEEN - STRONG BODY STRONG MIND!
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That's how she holds it when she goes down on her girlfriend. Kind of a "Put my lips on the pink this in the stink." situation.
Studhorse
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I think i jacked up every joint in my body just setting at my desk watching this.
chainsaw
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Yeah crazy strong
tyga tyga
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Yeah. The tools I bought are made of smooth buffalo horn. Little coconut oil, and some assisted scrapping and you’ll have an area cleaned up and tender in no time lol
MrKleen73
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Sweet, did you follow direction from any specific videos or person on youtube for instruction or anything you can recommend? I have been thinking of doing that as well, my ART did Graston on me and it really helped my elbow out around the bony areas where the other things including ART kind of failed.
Once he used a mixture of oil and BioFreeze that was an interesting session, it got so warm... felt great after though!
I did not get my lift in last night. JoAnn got stuck at work and so did I since we ride in together. So we got home more than 2 hours later than usual, and when I got home I truly just felt weak. The last meal I had was at lunch and was just about a pound of picanha, so no carbs and not tons of fat. So I had to decide if I was going to eat, or lift feeling weak as hell and mess up the rest of my schedule. After assessing everything I decided the workout would be more productive today when I can feed myself more and it won't put me to bed much later than usual. So now I will be lifting tonight. I adjusted my planned dinner and had 10oz turkey breast with 3 cheese sticks. That way I stayed both in keto and in enough of a deficit to still be a good burn day.
Protien - 163
Fats - 119.5
Carbs - 17g
Total cals 1823 - with the adjustments I am still on point for a burn day including the deficit cardio would have given me normally.
By the way, I got my Titan mace, and multigrip bar as well as the pull up bar in. Man that barbell is substantial! I need to look at the weight rating on it but it is built SOLID!!!! Looks like you could load it up with as many plate as will fit on it and it will still be asking for more. Plus it has a cool TITAN cut out into part of it that I didn't notice while I was online. I am also impressed with the sheer size of the mace and how big the handle is. This thing will easily go up to 25 lbs if not 30 filling it with lead, sand or rock once I get there. I think it will take a bit of playing with to need to add anything.
MrKleen73
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Thanks I was just about to go look for some.
The multi grip bar did not agree with my shoulders at all. Not for pressing anyway. I am going to try it for rows. Hopefully I didn’t injure my right shoulder I had a sharp pain in the back side of my shoulder while pressing. Had to call it quits. Tried a few more things for chest but no go.
I was able to continue with the weighted pull-ups though.
I superset several light sets of multi grip bar press and weighted pull ups I did a few warm ups at body weight then 7 sets of 3 with a 25.
I decided not to push the shoulder any more than that. Hopefully it feels okay and not way worse tomorrow if so I am not too worried.
This is making me really think about that body weight workout for upper body for a while. Let things heal up while I try to lean up.
MrKleen73
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So far so good on the shoulder. I think I may end up selling that bar on craigs list... I should have gotten the one that only has the angled handles the 100% parallel grip caused discomfort from the first rep. The ONLY grip that felt good at all was the angled one in the center...
Oh yeah I checked the weight rating on it and as I expected... RIDICULOUS it has a weight capacity of over 1900lbs... If anyone here in the Houston area might be interested let me know I will let it go for 75 It was 100 just 1 use ago! It truly is a bad ass beast but the grips put my shoulder into their specific angled weakness. After 30+ years of lifting I have certain positions that just don't work for me anymore...
Today is my daughters 14th birthday and we are leaving work early to go have lunch at school with her. Then having a family dinner this evening. I plan to stay low carb unless I do some more lifting since yesterday's lift was truncated I might do some pump work for shoulders and arms after we finish lunch with her at school.
I have definitely decided to bring more calisthenics into my life. Planning on getting rid of the bench / squat stand and rearranging the garage this weekend to give myself a space to practice more of the calisthenics stuff. I found a beginner plan that used a lot of static holds in positions that prepare you for some of the advanced stuff and am going to add that in as well as do pullups, chins, push ups, dips, handstand work, suspension training, weighted carries, lunges, jumps, animal drills and mace ball workouts. Then I might have 2 weight focused days each week that I do Front Squats and Dead Lifts, or just one day where I do both starting with the front squats.
Oh yeah I checked the weight rating on it and as I expected... RIDICULOUS it has a weight capacity of over 1900lbs... If anyone here in the Houston area might be interested let me know I will let it go for 75 It was 100 just 1 use ago! It truly is a bad ass beast but the grips put my shoulder into their specific angled weakness. After 30+ years of lifting I have certain positions that just don't work for me anymore...
Today is my daughters 14th birthday and we are leaving work early to go have lunch at school with her. Then having a family dinner this evening. I plan to stay low carb unless I do some more lifting since yesterday's lift was truncated I might do some pump work for shoulders and arms after we finish lunch with her at school.
I have definitely decided to bring more calisthenics into my life. Planning on getting rid of the bench / squat stand and rearranging the garage this weekend to give myself a space to practice more of the calisthenics stuff. I found a beginner plan that used a lot of static holds in positions that prepare you for some of the advanced stuff and am going to add that in as well as do pullups, chins, push ups, dips, handstand work, suspension training, weighted carries, lunges, jumps, animal drills and mace ball workouts. Then I might have 2 weight focused days each week that I do Front Squats and Dead Lifts, or just one day where I do both starting with the front squats.
SilentSavage0523
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I'll be moving into something similar to this next week when I get more into a volume block. Good bit of body Weight stuff such as squats, pushups, and pull ups as well as squat position holds.
hairygrandpa
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Here the promised vid for you, about the armaid. I guess you are already using it this way, just to confirm:
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Studhorse
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LOL... When I was watching that video I was like DAMN that would jack up my shoulders.
MrKleen73
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Thanks! That is what I have been doing. When you move the wrist back and forth or up and down they call if flossing or threading the tendon. So we were referring to the same thing.
Nice to put a voice to the personality by the way!
It does look that way and the instructional video I watched had them start with it behind the back to develop the swing and initial loosening up of the anterior side that pulls everything forward.
What it does is open up the chest and shoulders. That allows your humerus to recenter itself in the joint where it should be and clears a lot of impingement and friction based issues in the shoulder.
I am a little nervous to let it fall over my shoulder the first time but starting with it behind me to get a feel of it first should help.
Won’t I feel dumb for typing all of that if you meant the video of the Russian guy doing the crazy stuff.
Studhorse
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Thanks! That is what I have been doing. When you move the wrist back and forth or up and down they call if flossing or threading the tendon. So we were referring to the same thing.
Nice to put a voice to the personality by the way!
It does look that way and the instructional video I watched had them start with it behind the back to develop the swing and initial loosening up of the anterior side that pulls everything forward.
What it does is open up the chest and shoulders. That allows your humerus to recenter itself in the joint where it should be and clears a lot of impingement and friction based issues in the shoulder.
I am a little nervous to let it fall over my shoulder the first time but starting with it behind me to get a feel of it first should help.
Won’t I feel dumb for typing all of that if you meant the video of the Russian guy doing the crazy stuff.
Chris Duffin video
MrKleen73
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Whew so words not wasted. LOL
Okay here is where I am right now. Seem to be recomping slightly but the pace needs to pick up. I just need to turn up the discipline and do a little extra activity other than lifting. Still happy to see a little leaning while maintaining weight.
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I am going to go out and do a lift here shortly. I will probably take a few pics of how I changed the garage up too. I just need to sell this other bench and make the rest of the room but it is all changed up.
MrKleen73
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Just did a little playing around with the mace yesterday. My elbow was pissed off and I didn't feel like making things worse by going heavy on anything. Plus I want to try to start my body weight focused program today.
From the looks of it the program will take me about 80-90 minutes with the front squat sessions mixed in. I am going to try the Reddit Recommended BodyWeight Workout. They recommend if you have access to a Squat rack and Barbell to do Squats twice a week and Dead Lifts once a week where the body weight squat work is to be done. I may opt to do one of those days a lighter squat session or just do the body weight work for one of the sessions. We shall see how recovery goes.
Basically the premise is to find the hardest body weight progression that you can complete the rep ranges in, and then train the following progression until you can complete the required sets and reps. Once you do that you move on to the next harder progression. I know this is really going to be challenging and with my ADHD ass it is going to be hard to stick with and not change up the program but I plan on trying to dedicate some time to getting better with body weight stuff and I think it will really carry over in how I move and feel in my regular daily life.
Here is a link to the workout page, and below is a screenshot of one of the PDF's available for the workout.
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I would invite any of you who have been contemplating increasing body weight work to give this program a try, it seems to be the best one for already in shape people trying to convert to body weight stuff as it has the progressions built right into the same exact template.
Anyway, I expect my first few workouts to take a while and have a lot of referring back to videos or the papers I have on the movements and what not. The cool thing is this workout is very popular and you can find so many demonstration videos on youtube based off of the program that you can make a list to watch while you are doing the workout to help out.
The plan right now is 3 times a week for this stuff and I will more than likely do 10-15 minutes of skill training a day if I can find the time.
From the looks of it the program will take me about 80-90 minutes with the front squat sessions mixed in. I am going to try the Reddit Recommended BodyWeight Workout. They recommend if you have access to a Squat rack and Barbell to do Squats twice a week and Dead Lifts once a week where the body weight squat work is to be done. I may opt to do one of those days a lighter squat session or just do the body weight work for one of the sessions. We shall see how recovery goes.
Basically the premise is to find the hardest body weight progression that you can complete the rep ranges in, and then train the following progression until you can complete the required sets and reps. Once you do that you move on to the next harder progression. I know this is really going to be challenging and with my ADHD ass it is going to be hard to stick with and not change up the program but I plan on trying to dedicate some time to getting better with body weight stuff and I think it will really carry over in how I move and feel in my regular daily life.
Here is a link to the workout page, and below is a screenshot of one of the PDF's available for the workout.
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I would invite any of you who have been contemplating increasing body weight work to give this program a try, it seems to be the best one for already in shape people trying to convert to body weight stuff as it has the progressions built right into the same exact template.
Anyway, I expect my first few workouts to take a while and have a lot of referring back to videos or the papers I have on the movements and what not. The cool thing is this workout is very popular and you can find so many demonstration videos on youtube based off of the program that you can make a list to watch while you are doing the workout to help out.
The plan right now is 3 times a week for this stuff and I will more than likely do 10-15 minutes of skill training a day if I can find the time.
MrKleen73
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I walked the parking garage floors for exercise during lunch today. Hit a solid hour of walking up the parking garage floors, they are just continuous ramps, and then down the stairs to the bottom then back up to the top again. I made it 3 rounds and then back down to the 7th floor and back up before doing some calve stretches on the stairs and heading back to my desk.
I feel good, I really tried to focus on my posture and gait while walking, keeping core tight and shoulder blades retracted into position. I also really focused on my neck positioning. I found that I am VERY bound up at the top of my neck / base of my skull and that trying to stand up straight and keep the chin tucked back where it should be was not only hard but a little painful. So I am working on the strength to maintain that as well as the mobility. Just walking like that I could really feel the bottom of my skull and neck getting some separation and it felt both good and a little uncomfortable / painful. However the longer I held the postion the more it loosened up and got a little more comfortable.
I am really going to try to fix a lot of bad positions I am used to putting my body into over the next several months.
I feel good, I really tried to focus on my posture and gait while walking, keeping core tight and shoulder blades retracted into position. I also really focused on my neck positioning. I found that I am VERY bound up at the top of my neck / base of my skull and that trying to stand up straight and keep the chin tucked back where it should be was not only hard but a little painful. So I am working on the strength to maintain that as well as the mobility. Just walking like that I could really feel the bottom of my skull and neck getting some separation and it felt both good and a little uncomfortable / painful. However the longer I held the postion the more it loosened up and got a little more comfortable.
I am really going to try to fix a lot of bad positions I am used to putting my body into over the next several months.
MrKleen73
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Thanks, and yeah me too! I am hoping this allows for a lot more goals that might not break me down as bad but who knows... I get good at this stuff you know damn well I will be pushing boundaries!
MrKleen73
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Well I can safely say it was extremely challenging. I was tired by the end of the warm up. Then the skill work and support bracing. Whoa! The handstands as prescribed were very hard then going to the rings and holding a supported hollow position pretty much gassed me out.
By the time I got to the pull-ups and dips there was no way ring dips were happening so I did regular dips with fat grips on the handles. The idea is to not go to failure but a few shy. I did that with pull ups but pushing I just did explosive reps with slow negatives x 10
Pull ups 6 6 5
Dips 10 10 10
The workout was getting long due to referring to instructions on things before doing them. So I didn’t want to do squats with weights. The warm up would have added too much to the workout.
Overhead body weight squats 20* 3 sets
L sit one leg at a time 3 sets of 15 seconds each.
Horizontal wide grip ring rows 8 8 6 the last 2 sets I squeezed at the top for 3 seconds each
Diamond Pushups 8 8 8 I knew I could do all of them but I couldn’t do the ring pushups my shoulder didn’t like the instability so I figured it needed built up.
I was very surprised how challenging it was. The specific directions on the planks made them very hard. The support holds were very hard. Took a ton out of me so the regular calisthenics became much more challenging. I loved it though. The extreme isometric contractions under body weight were awesome and so challenging to my CNS I expect neural efficiency to improve quickly though.
By the time I got to the pull-ups and dips there was no way ring dips were happening so I did regular dips with fat grips on the handles. The idea is to not go to failure but a few shy. I did that with pull ups but pushing I just did explosive reps with slow negatives x 10
Pull ups 6 6 5
Dips 10 10 10
The workout was getting long due to referring to instructions on things before doing them. So I didn’t want to do squats with weights. The warm up would have added too much to the workout.
Overhead body weight squats 20* 3 sets
L sit one leg at a time 3 sets of 15 seconds each.
Horizontal wide grip ring rows 8 8 6 the last 2 sets I squeezed at the top for 3 seconds each
Diamond Pushups 8 8 8 I knew I could do all of them but I couldn’t do the ring pushups my shoulder didn’t like the instability so I figured it needed built up.
I was very surprised how challenging it was. The specific directions on the planks made them very hard. The support holds were very hard. Took a ton out of me so the regular calisthenics became much more challenging. I loved it though. The extreme isometric contractions under body weight were awesome and so challenging to my CNS I expect neural efficiency to improve quickly though.
christ83189
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Nice! I respect you for challenging yourself and doing that. I struggle with workouts like that.
MrKleen73
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Thanks, it was also a lot of fun and I can tell that a lot of my forearm issues might improve from this just from the major wrist stretching work involved in the warm up. I still can't believe how challenging the ring support was! The contraction of everything to 100% maximum to create stability was unreal. My pecs were almost cramping by the end. All of the stabilizing muscle just get thrashed.
I am really excited though because I truly expect a noticeable difference in CNS efficiency with the holds, and I learn quickly so in a months time they should be much easier. Once I have that level of control things will move quickly due to me already being strong. Dropping some weight is going to be a major factor in this as well.
MrKleen73
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Just had my fast breaker, I didn't count macros but kept track of what I was putting into my body and estimated amounts.
Protein Sources
6oz 93/7 ground turkey 36p, 12f
1 cheese stick 6p, 6f
1/2 cup lowfat cottage cheese 12p 1.5f
1 slice cheese 5p, 5f
fats -
about 7-8 servings of olives, or 14-16g fats
olive oil dressing 3-4 tablespoons 15
Peanuts 1 oz - 6p 14f
Power Greens 3-4 cups
Estimated total - 881 calories
Protein - 65g - 260c
Fats - 69 - 621
Carbs - Trace
Protein Sources
6oz 93/7 ground turkey 36p, 12f
1 cheese stick 6p, 6f
1/2 cup lowfat cottage cheese 12p 1.5f
1 slice cheese 5p, 5f
fats -
about 7-8 servings of olives, or 14-16g fats
olive oil dressing 3-4 tablespoons 15
Peanuts 1 oz - 6p 14f
Power Greens 3-4 cups
Estimated total - 881 calories
Protein - 65g - 260c
Fats - 69 - 621
Carbs - Trace
Rocket3015
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Putting in the work, very nice!
MrKleen73
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After seeing your recent progress I can't be slacking. This is the result I was hoping for with the competition / challenge thread. We all get the benefit of feeding off of others motivation and progress to spur us on!
Also feeling more motivated now that I have kind of settled in on a structured workout plan. Now I can plan things around it and make myself more of a schedule.
Rocket3015
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It is kind of like running a log, I always train a little harder and eat a little better when I am being held accountable, it is a good thing for me mentally.
MrKleen73
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Agreed, that is a part of my accountability system as well. This is just like the next level up of motivation for me.
hairygrandpa
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I train like always -but with a log, I just change (exaggerate) the numbers a bit to look better. -kidding-
MrKleen73
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Last night was a really good night for me. I went out with a very loose idea of what I wanted to do. I knew I wanted to work on some mobility and stretching as well as keep up a pace that made things somewhat metabolic in nature so I could burn up some good calories.
I put some music on and just started moving out there, doing a bit of dancing to warm up. Might as well have fun, the bike bores me to death... then ran through the warm up for the workout after about 10 minutes. I felt like I got better at the shoulder rolls on the floor, they are easy to do standing up but challenging from a coordination standpoint once you are on the ground supporting your weight with your elbows locked out. I did not do the planks, although now I wish I had, but I didn't want to burn my CNS out, and the way to do these planks takes tons of effort and coordination. Basically you do them with completely protracted shoulders and scapula... That way every muscle in the front of the body is fully shortened and contracted, and you are trying to bring your hands and feet together as hard as possible so quads and everything are at full contraction as well. A minute of that at 100% effort and trust me things get brutal real quick like. I also did much better on the leg swings, I had much more control and balance.
Anyway, once I finished up with that I reset my hips and then I did one 15-20 second Ring Support Hold just to let my body feel it again. I definitely got into position better and seemed more stable. I did it until the first sign of shaking then stopped because I just wanted my body to remember the success not a failure.
After that I did a lot of hip, and shoulder mobility type stuff but going through strange ROMs and really focusing on creating some tension through the movements and really feeling how each joint moved and what they felt like in every angle. I added in a lot of animal type movement, and would break it up occasionally with a focused stretch. Mostly though I just moved through a lot of planes of motion in the stretched area of the ROM like stuff like the triangle mobility drill type movements but really digging out all the corners and I did it all to music.
Doing it to music made it really fun and enjoyable, more like dancing than working out but also more like a workout than just dancing if that makes any sense. Like to someone else it would be obvious I was working out but also obvious I was doing it to music and transitioning through the movements as if dancing, and that I was dancing in between bouts of actual more intense movements where I was obviously challenging the body.
Anyway, what resulted was me looking up after close to 90 minutes and realizing that I had been out there working out / doing "cardio" for a while. I remember thinking Man that was a lot of fun, and I feel SO GOOD!!! I kept the pace up and never really stopped moving, did a lot of floor work where I was supporting my weight on all fours but not on my knees more or less a lot of work on the hands and feet working into deeper and deeper ranges of motion under control and tension which is what helps most with mobility. I had a nice sweat going even though it was cool out.
All in all an awesome workout that left me feeling excellent when I finished it up!!!
I put some music on and just started moving out there, doing a bit of dancing to warm up. Might as well have fun, the bike bores me to death... then ran through the warm up for the workout after about 10 minutes. I felt like I got better at the shoulder rolls on the floor, they are easy to do standing up but challenging from a coordination standpoint once you are on the ground supporting your weight with your elbows locked out. I did not do the planks, although now I wish I had, but I didn't want to burn my CNS out, and the way to do these planks takes tons of effort and coordination. Basically you do them with completely protracted shoulders and scapula... That way every muscle in the front of the body is fully shortened and contracted, and you are trying to bring your hands and feet together as hard as possible so quads and everything are at full contraction as well. A minute of that at 100% effort and trust me things get brutal real quick like. I also did much better on the leg swings, I had much more control and balance.
Anyway, once I finished up with that I reset my hips and then I did one 15-20 second Ring Support Hold just to let my body feel it again. I definitely got into position better and seemed more stable. I did it until the first sign of shaking then stopped because I just wanted my body to remember the success not a failure.
After that I did a lot of hip, and shoulder mobility type stuff but going through strange ROMs and really focusing on creating some tension through the movements and really feeling how each joint moved and what they felt like in every angle. I added in a lot of animal type movement, and would break it up occasionally with a focused stretch. Mostly though I just moved through a lot of planes of motion in the stretched area of the ROM like stuff like the triangle mobility drill type movements but really digging out all the corners and I did it all to music.
Doing it to music made it really fun and enjoyable, more like dancing than working out but also more like a workout than just dancing if that makes any sense. Like to someone else it would be obvious I was working out but also obvious I was doing it to music and transitioning through the movements as if dancing, and that I was dancing in between bouts of actual more intense movements where I was obviously challenging the body.
Anyway, what resulted was me looking up after close to 90 minutes and realizing that I had been out there working out / doing "cardio" for a while. I remember thinking Man that was a lot of fun, and I feel SO GOOD!!! I kept the pace up and never really stopped moving, did a lot of floor work where I was supporting my weight on all fours but not on my knees more or less a lot of work on the hands and feet working into deeper and deeper ranges of motion under control and tension which is what helps most with mobility. I had a nice sweat going even though it was cool out.
All in all an awesome workout that left me feeling excellent when I finished it up!!!
MrKleen73
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Yeah it really was. I am sure I looked more than a little interesting to anyone who may have seen me from the street. The way I was moving was not anything you see in normal daily life. LOL
MrKleen73
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No I totally forgot to be honest. Sorry. I have been using it on my elbow and it sure works there. I will grab it and dig into it my lower back tomorrow and let you know.
Rocket3015
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I'll bring the spoon !!
MrKleen73
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So last night was kind of a bummer, I went home took my preworkout then heard a ruckus in the back yard. The Weimeranner - a good size dog from across the street had come over and was sniffing around the back of our fence line and Wraith decided he either wanted to play with him / her, or something else. Either way I heard all the barking and walked out as Wraith went through two of the fence planks and broke the supporting 2x4 on his way through. I am assuming he had lunged at it a few times and the old wood just broke under the impact.
He didn't get aggressive with the dog so it may have been the dang dog that is in heat that has him air humping and trying to hook up with my little 10 year old female who is fixed. Poor thing he just walks up over top of her and starts trying to hump. It is so funny looking because he is so tall he just walks up and she looks like she is standing under a bridge then he starts trying to get at her front side or back this horny boy don't care. She puts him in his place big time though. He can't stop himself though so he walks away then comes back and tries again only to get lit into again... Walk away shaking the pain off then comes right back. One night I had to let her sleep out of the pen because he wouldn't leave her alone and she was really starting to light him up and I didn't want to come out to find him with bite marks in his saggy lips. That is where she gets him to back him off.
Anyway I ended up at the store getting more boards and then had to come home and fix and reinforce that section of fencing so the workout never got done. So now I will just do it tonight. There are only 3 workouts a week with this so tonight and Saturday will do just as well for me. I may end up going out for another walk today, just depends on if Jo can get out of work long enough for us to have our lunch date. If not I will go walking at lunch.
He didn't get aggressive with the dog so it may have been the dang dog that is in heat that has him air humping and trying to hook up with my little 10 year old female who is fixed. Poor thing he just walks up over top of her and starts trying to hump. It is so funny looking because he is so tall he just walks up and she looks like she is standing under a bridge then he starts trying to get at her front side or back this horny boy don't care. She puts him in his place big time though. He can't stop himself though so he walks away then comes back and tries again only to get lit into again... Walk away shaking the pain off then comes right back. One night I had to let her sleep out of the pen because he wouldn't leave her alone and she was really starting to light him up and I didn't want to come out to find him with bite marks in his saggy lips. That is where she gets him to back him off.
Anyway I ended up at the store getting more boards and then had to come home and fix and reinforce that section of fencing so the workout never got done. So now I will just do it tonight. There are only 3 workouts a week with this so tonight and Saturday will do just as well for me. I may end up going out for another walk today, just depends on if Jo can get out of work long enough for us to have our lunch date. If not I will go walking at lunch.
Rocket3015
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Life never gets boring !!
MrKleen73
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Nope not at all and definitely not with a 100+ pound puppy... He is almost old enough for me to get him fixed. Waiting for the bone platelets to get the hormonal signal to start closing up and stopping growth. Typically between 18-24 months. I haven't noticed much growth in height recently so I think he is approaching that point. Holding off until they hit that point GREATLY reduces the chance of getting any type of joint dysplasia, specifically in the hips.
Any other large breed dog should be allowed to mature that long if you really want to try and protect them from hip dysplasia. If they don't go through that part of the puberty process then the femurs grow longer than they should, and that is a HUGE factor in them getting hip, and or knee dysplasia. So if you have a German Shepard or Lab pup this goes for those sizes too. However in Giant breeds it is almost a must if you don't want issues.
jswain34
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Thanks man, I appreciate it! I could use it regardless but itll be a much easier purchase to talk myself into if it is useable on the back too.
And I never knew that about time of neutering and hip dysplasia, it makes sense it just isnt something ive heard of. Good to know for whenever i eventually get a pup of my own!
MrKleen73
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Most people do not know it because in the 80's there was this HUGE push to get all puppies fixed as early as possible. I mean it made sense we had a very bad stray population and something had to be done. However, it became the only focus, and not what that was actually causing with some of the dogs. As we know now the hormones are what close platelets so doing this to large dogs with enough weight to add more stress to the joint is not good.
Not such a problem on a chihuahua, or beagle because there is less stress on the joint.
jswain34
Well-known member
Makes sense with the hormone levels and the closing of the epiphyseal plates. Id just never thought of it in dogs. I am wondering when my dad neutered our lab...man watching him go was one of the saddest things. Poor dude couldnt even stand up and squat to take a ****. Ill do everything i can possibly do to help my pups not get it, i know it is inevitable to a certain degree with some breeds but im gonna fight it off for as long as I can.
Studhorse
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That cracked me up.
SFreed
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And also the reason I am no longer allowed in Planet Fitness.
christ83189
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Lol!
MrKleen73
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Funny, that's how I got with my first Baby Momma!
I had a pretty good workout last night but I misplanned a meal and felt like I went hypo in the middle of the workout. I opted to not do the deadlifts and L Sits yesterday and will do them today. I think this may end up being how I do things since the warm up is a full 20 minutes.
Also, I REALLY miss lifting weights... this workout is amazing for the warm up but some of the other stuff isn't pushing me where I need it to be pushed. I don't have the skill and strength in my stabilizers to push the rest of my bodies strength capability. I am not sure that I will stick with the body weight only stuff for very long. I may just hit up a lot more body weight stuff, and practice these skills regularly but also pepper in some weight lifting... I think for me that is going to be best. I do like the warm up a lot though. My entire body is truly ready to go after that and the skill work. I think I may keep doing that then body weight stuff followed by some supplemental weights, or do 2 body weight workouts a week and 1-2 lifting sessions.
I really don't know, they frame the body weight workout like any more will be too much but I feel like that is probably for someone who isn't already avid about working out. I feel I need some filler material while my smaller stabilizing muscles catch up. I just need to figure out how to implement it without going overboard.
On another note I feel like I have made a little progress this week. I seem to look a bit leaner than I did this weekend. That is a good thing for sure. It may have just been a difference in lighting but my abdomen seems a little bit tighter. I think all the hard planking is really helping as well as starting up the walks and paying more attention to caloric intake. I am going to just keep plodding away and I think in 2 months I should look pretty damn good. Hell a month and I should be feeling a lot more confident.
MrKleen73
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I know I am often mentioning that protein doesn't really need to be as high as most think. Plus saying it was marketing that pushed the higher requirements that people often try to argue with me. I like that they even say the peoples names who started all of it. Here is an article at T-Nation about a Study review that lays out the findings of several studies of trained lifters and protein intake. It is pretty interesting to me as it is pretty close to what I tend to do most of the time because I stay in the 150-200 range most of the time and often closer to 150.
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HIT4ME
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I haven't read this yet - but I agree. I think when dieting, protein should be kept to about 1 g/pound of bodyweight to make sure you have adequate amino acid supply for metabolic processes. When bulking and getting sufficient calories - this same amount is more than enough and likely even less because you have more fat and carbs available.
This was one point Mentzer always made too - eating more protein doesn't mean you will utilize more protein. And for the average lifter that is natural and has some training under their belt (a couple years) - gaining 5 pounds of muscle a YEAR is pretty significant. 454 grams in a pound of muscle (not even getting into the fact that a lot is water, etc) - so 454 X 5 = 2,270 grams of protein. If you double this requirement, that's 4,540 grams or less than 20 grams a day extra beyond what you need to maintain growth. A scoop of protein powder often has more than that.
MrKleen73
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For that to make sense you have to say that you need an ADDITIONAL 20g a day over whatever the maintenance protein requirements were for the amount of muscle they had before starting to make gains...
On top of that you and I both know that is an extreme oversimplification based on a mathematics equation, however there is a missing variable that you must apply to that equation to get an answer. Unfortunately it is a moving target with each person being more or less efficient with protein synthesis as well as many other genetic variables that control the rate of muscle growth. However to the point of it is that we don't need anywhere near the amount of protein people think.
I have spoken with a Dietitian who is also a bodybuilder, she works at a kidney facility and she says that most bodybuilders are so efficient with protein usage that they can maintain their muscle mass on an intake of 50g a day. I have seen her do this for years. She adds 20-50 grams when she wants to gain, but never really goes over 100g. She reminds me that proteins and aminos are all recycled and what was not used ends up in the amino acid pool in your blood. So for instance when you are low on blood sugar and the body breaks down a little muscle to get some glutamine, the rest of the unused aminos will re-enter the amino acid pool to be used for other processes later.
You didn't read the study yet but basically it says that there was no statistically relevant performance or muscular gain benefit reported for anyone going over the numbers listed. Here is the final part with some numbers to review.
"What This Means to You
If you're a lifter, you need more than the RDA, a lot more. But based on Morton's meta-analysis, taking more than 1.62 grams per kilogram of bodyweight a day probably won't lead to any additional growth. That 1.62 grams/kilogram, converted to pounds, looks like the following:
110 grams a day for a 150-pound lifter.
147 grams a day for a 200-pound lifter.
166 grams a day for a 225-pound lifter."