kickstarting test cyp with havoc

[engann]

hey fellas,
im into 3rd week of havoc dosing at 30/40/40..
im also on my first week of pinning test cyp 400mg per week...
i plan to stop havoc at a completed week 3,and end test cyp cycle with havoc on the last 3 weeks, just to dry out a lil.

so, my cycle looks like this
week 1-3 havoc at 30/40/40
week 3 - 12 test cyp at 400mg
week 10-12 havoc 40/40/40

and pct starts two weeks later.

will this be a good cycle ?

any advice /feedback appreciated

 

[engann]

anyone ??

 

[ambulldog]

you shoulda started the t with the epi. id run the epi another week or 2. id do this

week 1-5-epi
week 3-12 test
week 11-14 epi if you are so inclined

 

[MidwestBeast]

you shoulda started the t with the epi. id run the epi another week or 2. id do this

week 1-5-epi
week 3-12 test
week 11-14 epi if you are so inclined

Good advice. Definitely take advantage of some more gains, strength, etc. instead of cutting it off when it's just taking off.

 

[jbryand101b]

you shoulda started the t with the epi. id run the epi another week or 2.

yup.

 

[engann]

thanks guys!!!

ill run havoc for another 2 weeks......

 

[Sunny]

you shoulda started the t with the epi. id run the epi another week or 2. id do this

week 1-5-epi
week 3-12 test
week 11-14 epi if you are so inclined

First off I am REALLY REALLY sorry to revive and old thread but Im about to start basically this same cycle (test cyp 500mg a week and epi at 40mg for 5 weeks)

Is there a specific reason to start the test on week 3 of the epi? Is it better than starting both at the same time?
Also considering test c is usually used to bulk and epi to cut...would this be considered a "lean bulk" cycle or can it be used for bulking or leaning?

 

[Eric160]

i would say start the two at the same time as cyp takes some time to kick in hence the whole point of kickstarting the cycle. idk y this guy did this.

 

[Sunny]

Im guessing so that the epi is fully kicked in by the time you start the test....?

Anyways im still waiting on my second bottle of epi so I have a little time to figure this out.

 

[Ken Powers]

Im guessing so that the epi is fully kicked in by the time you start the test....?

Anyways im still waiting on my second bottle of epi so I have a little time to figure this out.

Yes, that way you're not sitting around playing with yourself for the first three weeks of your injections waiting for something to happen.

Edit: Wait no, you're not kickstarting an epi cycle with test, its the other way around. The idea of a kickstart for a test cyp cycle is based on that you probably wont feel the effects of the test for about 3 weeks, so you start a faster acting oral to get things going sooner.

 

[Sunny]

Edit: Wait no, you're not kickstarting an epi cycle with test, its the other way around. The idea of a kickstart for a test cyp cycle is based on that you probably wont feel the effects of the test for about 3 weeks, so you start a faster acting oral to get things going sooner.

Exactly, so how would it work best?

Epi 1-4
Test 1-10
or
Epi 1-4
Test 3-10
?

 

[Ken Powers]

Exactly, so how would it work best?

Epi 1-4
Test 1-10
or
Epi 1-4
Test 3-10
?

First one without a doubt, I would even run the epi another week or two, just to make sure you're getting the most out of it.