Ketotifen dosages?

BoxingFool01

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Just curious if anyone has ever ran Ketotifen w/clenbuterol/ECA stack. What dosage scheme would you follow if you were using it for a prolonged period of time?
 
BoxingFool01 said:
Just curious if anyone has ever ran Ketotifen w/clenbuterol/ECA stack. What dosage scheme would you follow if you were using it for a prolonged period of time?
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I wouldn't run clen and ECA simultaneously---it's pretty hard on your heart.

I don't like ketotifen because it makes me hungry as all hell, but 1-2mg ED will help substantially with receptor upregulation. Duchaine, who discovered ketotifen's efficacy in this regard, advocated much higher dosees (5-10mg ED, IIRC), but it turns out such high doses are not necessary.

Having said all that, I think clen really is most effective when run 1-2 weeks on followed by an equal or greater off-time. If doing it this way, save the ECA for the time you're not on clen.

-kwantam
 
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1mg/day of ketotifen seems standard

and don't stack clen and E/C.
 
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I've ran T3/Clen/ECA at the same time and I've never had any problems with sides. Then again, ECA does nothing at all for me in terms of HR/BP/Energy/etc. I also have a freakishly high tolerance for stimulants...like taking 200mcg of clen right before I go to sleep. So I can't necessarily reccomend that for everyone.
 
Brennon said:
I've ran T3/Clen/ECA at the same time and I've never had any problems with sides. Then again, ECA does nothing at all for me in terms of HR/BP/Energy/etc. I also have a freakishly high tolerance for stimulants...like taking 200mcg of clen right before I go to sleep. So I can't necessarily reccomend that for everyone.
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I'm the same way with regard to stimulants, but you can't necessarily feel your heart getting fucked up.

...unless you listen with a stethoscope. Then you hear it screaming in agony.

-kwantam
 
I think clen is garbage. For fat loss just stick with the EC, or if you want to get exotic try albuterol (with 1mg of ketotifen taken at night), at 12-16mg/day. There's real data (on humans no less) out there that it is effective at increasing strength and muscle mass, and it is also going to be nearly as effective as clen at cutting fat too (though don't go trying to increase muscle mass and lose fat at the same time on it, only R3-IGF1 seems capable of that).
 
exnihilo said:
I think clen is garbage. For fat loss just stick with the EC, or if you want to get exotic try albuterol (with 1mg of ketotifen taken at night), at 12-16mg/day. There's real data (on humans no less) out there that it is effective at increasing strength and muscle mass, and it is also going to be nearly as effective as clen at cutting fat too (though don't go trying to increase muscle mass and lose fat at the same time on it, only R3-IGF1 seems capable of that).
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I must say that IGF-1 + clen is shaping up to be an incredible PCT combo (among many other goodies, of course!) ;)
 
exnihilo said:
I think clen is garbage. For fat loss just stick with the EC, or if you want to get exotic try albuterol (with 1mg of ketotifen taken at night), at 12-16mg/day. There's real data (on humans no less) out there that it is effective at increasing strength and muscle mass, and it is also going to be nearly as effective as clen at cutting fat too (though don't go trying to increase muscle mass and lose fat at the same time on it, only R3-IGF1 seems capable of that).
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Can you get albuterol as a research substance anywhere?
 
CROWLER said:
Can you get albuterol as a research substance anywhere?
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I've found it in liquid form on CEM only. I would like to find a powder...
 
Syr said:
I've found it in liquid form on CEM only. I would like to find a powder...
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What is CEM?
 
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