kai greene was better

I am a big fan of Kai and I thought he could win until the last side by side comparisons. Phil deserved the win imo. But congrats to them both, they were incredible
 
I Agree with cobbledpath. I think kai had slightly better conditioning. I also think kai had better legs and back. However, phil's v-taper was better. Phil has very wide shoulders and a very narrow waist, his arms are big enough to fill in all the gaps to make EVERY pose look great. Great competition
 
Imo its comparing apples to oranges. Both looked incresible. Phils delts are out if this world but i think his back looked sub par compared to kai. Also kai"s conditioning was incredible. But the big story was rhoden, he remided me of flex wheeler
 
Thought Kai had a nicer shape than usual, but Phil has prettier muscle bellies. For a minute we thought those two were going to go at since they were practically on top of one another!!:duel:
 
Miss Q said:
Thought Kai had a nicer shape than usual, but Phil had prettier muscle bellies. For a minute we thought they were going to go at it on stage as they certainly right on top of each other!!:duel:
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Agreed. Phil had density and the depth. Kai had much more shape in his hamstring/glutes clearly shown in the side profile along with his unmistakable lower back tree. Phil can be a bit more pleasing in the most muscular. Kai got tighter as he posed but Phil came out that way. Phil has a more definable abdominal wall. All said and done its a close call but I was pulling for Kai.
 
phil was much wider from the front, i thought he had more detail in his back even tho it was smaller....kai has bigger legs...but phils overall package and look is much better
 
Legacyfighter said:
I Agree with cobbledpath. I think kai had slightly better conditioning. I also think kai had better legs and back. However, phil's v-taper was better. Phil has very wide shoulders and a very narrow waist, his arms are big enough to fill in all the gaps to make EVERY pose look great. Great competition
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Yeah, I think this is what happened. I think it came down to what those judges wanted at the time, and they decided they preferred what Phil was bringing to the table. But man, that tree on Kai's back was sick.
 
It is like the commentators said: It is not about their strengths, it is about where they are lacking. Phil has less deficiencies than Kai. Kai was definitely in better condition than Phil and it almost carried him to the win but Phil's overall package is solid. If Phil had benn spot on with his conditioning there wouldn't have been any doubts. My .02
 
Imo Kai looked better in pre-judging than he did in the night show, he looked like he lost a lot of fullness in his physique.
 
zimbareo said:
Imo Kai looked better in pre-judging than he did in the night show, he looked like he lost a lot of fullness in his physique.
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Yup!!! He was looking a lil flat compared to
Prejudging, Kai just needed a bit more traps, shoulders and chest and he would of taken it!

Don't get me wrong I have never seen Kai this aesthetically pleasing
 
Just throwing this out there... Rhoden looked the best to me. Amazing physique, not saying he should have won. he didn't have the freak factor, but his physique was near perfect if you ask me
 
Legacyfighter said:
Just throwing this out there... Rhoden looked the best to me. Amazing physique, not saying he should have won. he didn't have the freak factor, but his physique was near perfect if you ask me
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In a way the freak factor seems like its on it's way out, judges seem to be moving away from the mass monsters and back to more aesthetic physiques.

In the end it's probably the best move if they want to get back to the popularity body building had in the past.
 
zimbareo said:
In a way the freak factor seems like its on it's way out, judges seem to be moving away from the mass monsters and back to more aesthetic physiques.

In the end it's probably the best move if they want to get back to the popularity body building had in the past.
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If this is the case, Jay and Branch will never have a shot at winning. i agree that it could be a good move for the sport though. Maybe the mass monster thing is why correa didnt win the 212's...
 
Check out this video on YouTube:

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Very close competition imo. I'd give the win to Phil though.

[video=youtube;ikO1InZhtws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikO1InZhtws[/video]
 
Rhoden puts on 10 more lbs and he wins it next year
 
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