Jim's Training to Become a Human Tank!

Seems a lot to do upper back everyday even at different intensities and such. Just don't want to see yu get injured. I think some rest is necessary man
 
smoker145 said:
Seems a lot to do upper back everyday even at different intensities and such. Just don't want to see yu get injured. I think some rest is necessary man
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There is rest....


On Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday.


I don't train everyday lol.



Plus, tell that **** to any eastern European and they'll laugh right in your face.
 
jimbuick said:
There is rest.... On Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday. I don't train everyday lol. Plus, tell that **** to any eastern European and they'll laugh right in your face.
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Well, your not on aas yet. And the ones that aren't I'm sure have worked up to that very gradually.

And my b. though you trained 6 days
 
smoker145 said:
Well, your not on aas yet. And the ones that aren't I'm sure have worked up to that very gradually.

And my b. though you trained 6 days
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I train 5 days, but I don't intend to do any upper back work before event day because it might cause my performance to suffer on event day.


And, I've already been working up to this. I have been, for the last 6 months, doing upper back work at least 3x a week. Now I'm just adding an extra day (Tuesday).
 
rob112 said:
Awesome PR James...not available on mobile.

225 is very nice milestone overhead
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The push jerk video is apparently still processing, I can watch it on mobile by following the link but can't watch it any other way (for whatever reason).



I figure I will probably have to dispute a claim (like I had to do with the stones).
 
I just disabled the audio or whatever. They are making things difficult for sure.
 
Nice work, and sweet push jerk. Yeah, you can definitely use a little more work and explosiveness but the foundation is there. Definitely try to be more explosive with the arms.

jimbuick said:
My technique could be better, but overall I'm fairly happy with this. I need to get out of the habit of letting my knees come forward for the push (something that's developed from log/axle pressing because of how the implement sits) and need to work on pushing the hips back so that I can be more powerful in the push.
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You're definitely not the first person to say this, and you might be addressing something very specific to your situation, but I think the bold is actually the right way to do it. I think the appropriate way to do this is to bend at the knees and very little in the hips, because the most important thing besides leg drive is maintaining an upright torso. See the following:
[video=youtube;qVRdbaOvX9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVRdbaOvX9g[/video]

I know it's xfit, but that doesn't make the video wrong.
 
One thing with the jerk, and with the snatch, as well, is that you're really trying to pull yourself under the weight. That initial bump off of the front rack isn't to try to get the weight overhead, as the bar shouldn't be traveling too far upward anyway. That's not where you're really trying to move the weight. The weight is actually being moved once you're in the hole. By pulling yourself under the weight I mean that you're trying to pull yourself low enough to where you receive the weight at full lockout (where your arms are at their strongest). I'd suggest, in your next round of jerk training, to drop some weight and focus on being able to drop deeper into the squat position and receive the weight at full arm lockout. Once you're comfortable with that, the numbers will climb. You could also throw some OH squats into your routine so you know what it feels like to come out of the hole with the weight overhead.

Edit: in the video toro posted, he talks about moving the weight the majority of the distance with the push. That's all fine and dandy with the 95lbs that he has on the bar, but with the 245 you're trying, it ain't gonna happen that way, thus the importance of being able to receive the weight in a more squatted position.
 
Torobestia said:
Nice work, and sweet push jerk. Yeah, you can definitely use a little more work and explosiveness but the foundation is there. Definitely try to be more explosive with the arms.



You're definitely not the first person to say this, and you might be addressing something very specific to your situation, but I think the bold is actually the right way to do it. I think the appropriate way to do this is to bend at the knees and very little in the hips, because the most important thing besides leg drive is maintaining an upright torso. See the following:
[video=youtube;qVRdbaOvX9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVRdbaOvX9g[/video]

I know it's xfit, but that doesn't make the video wrong.
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YES IT DOES! IT'S INSTANTLY WRONG FOR BEING X-FIT RELATED!!!!

No, but seriously, thanks for the post. I was just going off of what Marshall was telling me about it, he said that with the log and axle it's near impossible to drive the hips back (unless thoracic mobility is excellent), but that with a regular barbell that it should be done that way.

I honestly wouldn't know, but that video makes me feel like I'm not doing it wrong (and since it's the way the implement presses would be done it may be best to do them that way at all times).

iparatroop said:
One thing with the jerk, and with the snatch, as well, is that you're really trying to pull yourself under the weight. That initial bump off of the front rack isn't to try to get the weight overhead, as the bar shouldn't be traveling too far upward anyway. That's not where you're really trying to move the weight. The weight is actually being moved once you're in the hole. By pulling yourself under the weight I mean that you're trying to pull yourself low enough to where you receive the weight at full lockout (where your arms are at their strongest). I'd suggest, in your next round of jerk training, to drop some weight and focus on being able to drop deeper into the squat position and receive the weight at full arm lockout. Once you're comfortable with that, the numbers will climb. You could also throw some OH squats into your routine so you know what it feels like to come out of the hole with the weight overhead.

Edit: in the video toro posted, he talks about moving the weight the majority of the distance with the push. That's all fine and dandy with the 95lbs that he has on the bar, but with the 245 you're trying, it ain't gonna happen that way, thus the importance of being able to receive the weight in a more squatted position.
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God damn it Dave.....


I'll work on it more this Friday when I press again with the log (I will of course work on that with a regular barbell). I'm not sure how capable I will be of doing that with an implement, but it definitely won't hurt to try to find a more efficient way to press it.

I think, for the most part, my issues dropping are mental, probably because I am afraid (deep down in my subconscious) of losing my **** trying to get down so low in the catch. I appreciate the help man, we'll see if I can do any better later this week.
 
In other news, front squatted today and came away with two PR's, and may have even had a little more in the tank!


Front Squatted today.



My preworkout today was 1.5 scoops of Island Punch Condense, and recently I've been drinking the Jolly Watermelon AminO.D. intra.

Flavor is a little strong at first (for an intra workout), very sweet. But as I water it down throughout the training session I tend to like it more and more.



Front Squat: 275 x 2, 295 x 2, 315 x 2, 325 x 2

Both of those last sets are PR's for me, my previous 1RM (from maybe a month ago?) was 315. Very excited about that progress, squats were done with EFS Knee sleeves (which I wore the whole session) and my belt (which I put on for 275+).



Here is the 325: Invalid Link Removed

Box Squat: 225 x 5 (extra low), 225 x 5, 255 x 5 (added a plate to the box to decrease the ROM on the descent to just under parallel)

Pendlay Rows: 135 x 6, 185 x 6, 205 x 6

Last rep had a little more body english to complete so I shut it down there.

a1. Lunges: BW x 20 x 3
a2. GHR: BW x 14 x 2, BW x 9


Done. Good workout today.
 
Nice job on the front squat PR. I've yet to attempt it; it just seems like it would feel so awkward.
 
jimbuick said:
In other news, front squatted today and came away with two PR's, and may have even had a little more in the tank! Front Squatted today. My preworkout today was 1.5 scoops of Island Punch Condense, and recently I've been drinking the Jolly Watermelon AminO.D. intra. Flavor is a little strong at first (for an intra workout), very sweet. But as I water it down throughout the training session I tend to like it more and more. Front Squat: 275 x 2, 295 x 2, 315 x 2, 325 x 2 Both of those last sets are PR's for me, my previous 1RM (from maybe a month ago?) was 315. Very excited about that progress, squats were done with EFS Knee sleeves (which I wore the whole session) and my belt (which I put on for 275+). Here is the 325: Invalid Link Removed Box Squat: 225 x 5 (extra low), 225 x 5, 255 x 5 (added a plate to the box to decrease the ROM on the descent to just under parallel) Pendlay Rows: 135 x 6, 185 x 6, 205 x 6 Last rep had a little more body english to complete so I shut it down there. a1. Lunges: BW x 20 x 3 a2. GHR: BW x 14 x 2, BW x 9 Done. Good workout today.
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Did you have another 325?
 
Very nice FS pr! I need to get my **** together and give them another try.

iparatroop said:
Edit: in the video toro posted, he talks about moving the weight the majority of the distance with the push. That's all fine and dandy with the 95lbs that he has on the bar, but with the 245 you're trying, it ain't gonna happen that way, thus the importance of being able to receive the weight in a more squatted position.
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Um, the first sentence is that you move the weight primarily by driving with the legs and hips, so no, he doesn't. That it looks like almost all push is, as you say, a function of the weight being so small. AFAIK a push jerk is like a power jerk so you shouldn't end up ATG.
 
Torobestia said:
Um, the first sentence is that you move the weight primarily by driving with the legs and hips, so no, he doesn't. That it looks like almost all push is, as you say, a function of the weight being so small. AFAIK a push jerk is like a power jerk so you shouldn't end up ATG.
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Maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to convey through his thick Irish accent, haha.
I agree with you on the push/power jerk and that you shouldn't wind up ATG, but in Jim's case, he could descend lower to receive the weight at it's peak with fully extended arms. With his ability to back and front squat substantially more that what he can jerk, I think it would serve him well to drop a bit lower to achieve lockout and then move the weight upward.
I wasn't calling you out for a shïtty video or anything like that, it's just that the dynamics of the movement will have to change a bit to accommodate for added weight. Maybe I'm completely off in my assessment though.
 
Yeah but I can't read.

PS good work on those Front squats man. Honestly beastly.
 
So, I was being pretty lazy and didn't upload yesterday's DL workout.


So, here it is.



Farmers DL: 200 x 1, 220 x 1, 230 x 1 + 10 Second Hold.

PR for me with these "suitcase" handles, I picked up 250 in competition with better handles (the ones I train with are ridiculously hard in comparison) but definitely wasn't able to hold it for this long. So, that's good news. I'll upload the video later.

SLDL: 185 x 5, 225 x 5, 245 x 5, 275 x 5

These were all easy honestly, I only stopped because I wanted to try the Rolling Thunder apparatus. Which I absolutely suck at lol.

Rolling Thunder: 100 x 2 (per hand), 125 x F

Ridiculous. This thing is stupid, my hands are all small and ****.

Before you ask (smoker), this is the rolling thunder lift: Invalid Link Removed

Mark Felix is the record holder with a 323.5 (I believe) in competition. (grip competitions, not strongman)

Dead Hypers: 155 x 10 x 3

a1. Keg Row: 160 x 10, 9, 9
a2. RD Pullapart: Black x 20 x 3



Pretty good workout over all. I'm getting better with the farmers handles, which is good.



Today I did event press, not too heavy because the competition is next Saturday.


Circus DB : 82 x 1, 92 x 1, 102 x F, 102 x 1

Easy 102, only 20 pounds short of competition weight (LOL). The first just got away from me so I had to dump it.

Viking Press (because we made an apparatus for it this week, so I wanted to use it): 90# x 16, 90# + 2 Purple (heavy) bands x 6 x 3 (facing the weight)

90# + 2 Purple Bands x 6, x 7 (facing away from the weight)

BB Rows: 85 x 25, 105 x 20

Nothing. Just used the weight my wife had on the bar and did 20+ to get some type of external rotation work in (similar to doing thousands of pullaparts I guess).

Don't plan to do anything tomorrow, but will probably go to the gym just because I have nothing better to do. (hopefully, I don't get talked into doing yoke and all that other **** lol).
 
So, I've been curious about Rolling Thunder. Is the fatness the hard part, or is it the roll-y-ness, or what? It seems straightforward, but it whoops ass, you know?
 
herderdude said:
So, I've been curious about Rolling Thunder. Is the fatness the hard part, or is it the roll-y-ness, or what? It seems straightforward, but it whoops ass, you know?
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Both.


The bar is extra fat and the handle spins freely so you can't get under it at all. I hate that thing. Hell, Marshall has never done higher than 210 on that thing (although, he has small hands like me and it seems to be better suited for guys with bigger hands)
 
That's a pretty good workout, both yesterday and today. Pretty wild a comp in a week. Should be fun.
 
Yeah, I didn't know it was that soon lol. The time flies.


Random thought of the day:


I was thinking about X-Fit (because of that guy that broke his back during the snatch at a recent competition) and it made me think about X-Fit. Now, I don't blame the sport for what happened to this guy, I don't think doing heavy snatches is inherently wrong in any way, he had a bad lift and his luck went south. But, it got me thinking about the competitions in X-Fit and their similarities to Strongman shows.

Hear me out on this one, both competitions have anywhere from 4-6 events that test a different facet of fitness/strength. In X-Fit, you might see a Maximal Clean + Jerk/Snatch, or a Deadlift for reps, or a Muscle-Up + Handstand Pushup Medley for time, or even a yoke/farmer/tire for time/distance. While in Strongman, you will see Maximal Pulls or Rep Pulls, Yoke carries for distance/speed, Tire/Sled Medleys, Truck Pulls, etc.

The main difference between them? The amount of weight and the amount of time they've been around. So, my belief is that X-Fit; is Strongman for women. They have similar events and competitions, but instead of doing them with heavy ass weight, they opt for light weights or BW work.
 
jimbuick said:
Yeah, I didn't know it was that soon lol. The time flies.


Random thought of the day:


I was thinking about X-Fit (because of that guy that broke his back during the snatch at a recent competition) and it made me think about X-Fit. Now, I don't blame the sport for what happened to this guy, I don't think doing heavy snatches is inherently wrong in any way, he had a bad lift and his luck went south. But, it got me thinking about the competitions in X-Fit and their similarities to Strongman shows.

Hear me out on this one, both competitions have anywhere from 4-6 events that test a different facet of fitness/strength. In X-Fit, you might see a Maximal Clean + Jerk/Snatch, or a Deadlift for reps, or a Muscle-Up + Handstand Pushup Medley for time, or even a yoke/farmer/tire for time/distance. While in Strongman, you will see Maximal Pulls or Rep Pulls, Yoke carries for distance/speed, Tire/Sled Medleys, Truck Pulls, etc.

The main difference between them? The amount of weight and the amount of time they've been around. So, my belief is that X-Fit; is Strongman for women. They have similar events and competitions, but instead of doing them with heavy ass weight, they opt for light weights or BW work.
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Sounds like a fairly reasonable conclusion. I've had a similar thought myself, personally.
 
I, too, had thought the same thing about strongman comps and crossfit comps. It's like crossfit was made to be more accessible to regular people, and suddenly strongman saw the market and boom, quickly two new weight classes were born. I like that there are more weight classes in strongman. Opens up the exposure, grows the sport.
 
herderdude said:
I, too, had thought the same thing about strongman comps and crossfit comps. It's like crossfit was made to be more accessible to regular people, and suddenly strongman saw the market and boom, quickly two new weight classes were born. I like that there are more weight classes in strongman. Opens up the exposure, grows the sport.
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I concur.


And from now on I will be referring to crossfit as "Strongman for women."
 
One might even venture to call it ... Weakman?
 
In again, for X-fit for men.
 
I'm going to call Strongman "Crossfit for fat guys".

Boom. What now?
 
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