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Jay's Prime and Compound20 Log(Sponsored)

LiveToLift said:
I'm all new to these cleans... Would this be included on back day, shoulder day or what?
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I'm currently just doing them with my calf days, logically it would make the most sense to put them with your leg day since a majority of the power is from your legs. When you're first learning the clean, I could see it using more back than it should and the jerk will probably involve more of your shoulders.

Once your form is down pat, my vote would be a leg day.
 
jaycuda said:
I'm currently just doing them with my calf days, logically it would make the most sense to put them with your leg day since a majority of the power is from your legs. When you're first learning the clean, I could see it using more back than it should and the jerk will probably involve more of your shoulders.

Once your form is down pat, my vote would be a leg day.
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I do then on dead lift day. But only because my CNS is pretty pumped after a set of heavy deads and my clean weight feels light.

And holy shiet. 245?
I just keep thinking elbows out, jump straight up, pop the hips (not a lot) and shrug like hell.

I do cleans 4x a week now though. 2 days of technical work, one day of reps, and one day ME. I'm getting the pull under really well now though. Its just I can't receive in proper positioning because of elbow flex... I tend to over compensate by leaning forward. Which is a horrible thing to do....
 
mattrag said:
I do then on dead lift day. But only because my CNS is pretty pumped after a set of heavy deads and my clean weight feels light.

And holy shiet. 245?
I just keep thinking elbows out, jump straight up, pop the hips (not a lot) and shrug like hell.

I do cleans 4x a week now though. 2 days of technical work, one day of reps, and one day ME. I'm getting the pull under really well now though. Its just I can't receive in proper positioning because of elbow flex... I tend to over compensate by leaning forward. Which is a horrible thing to do....
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245 is butter aslong as you can front squat it and stop overpulling.
 
NeoHippie said:
I'm currently stacking oxyelite and C20. I have run an 8 week cycle of oxy and loved it! I started C20 about three days ago and have seen my appetite go through the roof! I'm seriously doubting its a placebo effect. LOL
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Someone told me that means it's kicking up the metabolism....
Same thing happened to me....
I'd like to run a c20, prime, pink magic stack, never fully got to use pink magic and I'd be curious as to how it works with Prime.

Good job here to Jay w/log.

:sgrin:
 
AaronJP1 said:
Someone told me that means it's kicking up the metabolism....
Same thing happened to me....
I'd like to run a c20, prime, pink magic stack, never fully got to use pink magic and I'd be curious as to how it works with Prime.

Good job here to Jay w/log.

:sgrin:
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That'd definitely be an interesting log. Would be a good bit of pills to keep track of lol
 
jaycuda said:
That'd definitely be an interesting log. Would be a good bit of pills to keep track of lol
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Right.

I read you wanna be 185 @ 10% thats legit....

I'd like to be 210 @ 13%. doubt I'll get there and I worked so hard to see this 195, but I need some body fat loss....
 
AaronJP1 said:
Right.

I read you wanna be 185 @ 10% thats legit....

I'd like to be 210 @ 13%. doubt I'll get there and I worked so hard to see this 195, but I need some body fat loss....
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Yeah, 185 is the long term goal. Once I reach it I'll probably end up aiming for higher, but at the moment it sounds perfect.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Someone told me that means it's kicking up the metabolism....
Same thing happened to me....
I'd like to run a c20, prime, pink magic stack, never fully got to use pink magic and I'd be curious as to how it works with Prime.

Good job here to Jay w/log.

:sgrin:
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My appetite has returned to baseline levels just about. Honestly, it has been three weeks since I started C20. I haven't really noticed any changes other than the increase appetite the first couple of days. Even my precious Oxyelite isn't working like it used to and I took the full month off. Oh well, my Alpha T2 arrives today assuming I don't miss the delivery. So my stack will be Oxy, C20, and Alpha. Let the games begin! LOL!
 
May 8th, Regular day off.

Ate a delicious scratch made biscuit with a chicken fillet for breakfast to start my day and then spent the day out on the boat with some friends. Easy going day and was a good break.
 
May 11th, Back & Triceps.

Barbell Rows
115x12
155x12
185x10
185x10
185x10

Pulls up
BWx15
BW+45x12
BW+45x12
BW+45x10

Lat Pulldowns
90x10
150x10
170x10
170x10

Close grip Bench Press
135x10
185x5
205x5
225x5
245x5
255x5
255x5

Dips
BWx15
BW+75x10
BW+75x10
BW+90x10
BW+135x3
BW+160x1 +2 "f*ck no"s <--- hahahaha. Was joking around with a gym acquaintance, told him I was the king of dips. He showed me up pretty bad, not sure how many 45's he managed to put on. lol

DB Pullovers
50x8
70x8
70x8
70x10
 
May 12th, Calf/Wild card.

Just made it a Snatch and Clean & Jerk day. This day I felt a lot stronger actually, especially over head with jerks. Felt pretty good.
 
May 14th, Chest/Biceps.

Incline DB Bench -
55'sx10
65'sx10
75'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
95'sx4

Dumbbell Flys
20x15
25x15
30x15
30x15

Cambered Bar curls
45x10
65x10
80x10
80x14
90x8

DB Hammer Curls
40'sx10
45'sx10
45'sx12

Preacher Curls
45x8
55x8
55x8
 
jaycuda said:
May 14th, Chest/Biceps.

Incline DB Bench -
55'sx10
65'sx10
75'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
95'sx4

Dumbbell Flys
20x15
25x15
30x15
30x15

Cambered Bar curls
45x10
65x10
80x10
80x14
90x8

DB Hammer Curls
40'sx10
45'sx10
45'sx12

Preacher Curls
45x8
55x8
55x8
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Nice chest day. Seeing you tried to be the king of dips only a couple days ago I think you held up well lol.
 
Hey Jay!!! How did I miss this? I will go back and read up!
 
Wow, we're still about equal on workouts . . . we'd be great training partners! Meet up in the middle of the country 2x per week?
 
May 17th, Shoulders/Traps.


Barbell Military Press
135x5
175x5
175x5
185x5
185x5

Front Raises
10'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
25'sx12

Dumbbell Lateral Raises
15'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
30'sx10

Barbell Shrugs
135x15
225x10
315x10
315x10
315x12

Dumbbell Shrugs
75'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10

Upright rows
45x12
65x12
65x12

Power Cleans
135x5
185x5
215x5
225x5
225x5
235x4 <--Should have been an easy 5 but I was burnt. It felt so heavy doing them at the end of my work out.
 
jaycuda said:
May 17th, Shoulders/Traps.

Barbell Military Press
135x5
175x5
175x5
185x5
185x5

Front Raises
10'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
25'sx12

Dumbbell Lateral Raises
15'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
30'sx10

Barbell Shrugs
135x15
225x10
315x10
315x10
315x12

Dumbbell Shrugs
75'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10

Upright rows
45x12
65x12
65x12

Power Cleans
135x5
185x5
215x5
225x5
225x5
235x4 <--Should have been an easy 5 but I was burnt. It felt so heavy doing them at the end of my work out.
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Damn... This workout is amazing.... I can't do military presses for 175x5 I can push presses lol.
Those are some mean as hell power cleans though... I barely can get 175 up for a double...

Good stuff man.,
 
mattrag said:
Damn... This workout is amazing.... I can't do military presses for 175x5 I can push presses lol.
Those are some mean as hell power cleans though... I barely can get 175 up for a double...

Good stuff man.,
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The first press is the hardest one lol. Power cleans get easier once you can full clean heavy weight. If I could jerk what I can clean I'd be focusing on the Olympics lol. Unfortunately I can't.
 
jaycuda said:
The first press is the hardest one lol. Power cleans get easier once you can full clean heavy weight. If I could jerk what I can clean I'd be focusing on the Olympics lol. Unfortunately I can't.
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Haha. You beast.
I wanna be able to clean 315... Man I saw klokov push press 225kg. That is amazing.
 
Jaycuda,

Way back you mentioned you hate calf workouts. Me 2...but oddly my calfs are unsually big and cut naturally.

Sub'ed to this.

I've been doing the "Super Duper" Asteriod Stack for about 16weeks, alternating OEP bottles and Recreate. It's been crazy Good! I'm taking:

Pink Magic
Prime
C20
OEP or Recreate
Powerfull
USP Labs BCAAs in PWO

and my other staples.

It's gota be one of the best Natty stacks out there right now.
 
MrMcBride1 said:
Jaycuda,

Way back you mentioned you hate calf workouts. Me 2...but oddly my calfs are unsually big and cut naturally.

Sub'ed to this.

I've been doing the "Super Duper" Asteriod Stack for about 16weeks, alternating OEP bottles and Recreate. It's been crazy Good! I'm taking:

Pink Magic
Prime
C20
OEP or Recreate
Powerfull
USP Labs BCAAs in PWO

and my other staples.

It's gota be one of the best Natty stacks out there right now.
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Sounds like that would be a sick stack. Yeah, i was blessed with calves aswell, at least for my size. Thanks for subbing
 
MrMcBride1 said:
Jaycuda,

Way back you mentioned you hate calf workouts. Me 2...but oddly my calfs are unsually big and cut naturally.

Sub'ed to this.

I've been doing the "Super Duper" Asteriod Stack for about 16weeks, alternating OEP bottles and Recreate. It's been crazy Good! I'm taking:

Pink Magic
Prime
C20
OEP or Recreate
Powerfull
USP Labs BCAAs in PWO

and my other staples.

It's gota be one of the best Natty stacks out there right now.
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SICK stack!!! I'm impress3d!
 
May 18th, Back/Triceps.

DB Rows
70'sx12
85'sx12
100'sx12(I used a strap for these and down)
100'sx10
100'sx10

Pulls up
BWx15
BW+45x12
BW+80x8
BW+80x8

B.Neck Lat Pulldowns -I'm stronger at B.neck than regular lat pulldowns, awesome
90x15
150x12
180x10
200x9
200x7 <-- Pretty sure it looked like I was having a seizure on the last rep

Face pulls - I felt these, going to be a regular part of my workouts.
40x10
50x10
50x10

Dips
BWx10
BW+75x10
BW+90x10
BW+90x10
BW+90x10

DB Pullovers
50x8
70x8
80x5 - Almost died.
70x8

Lying Barbell Tricep Extensions
45x10
85x10
105x10
105x10
105x10

Found a few new workouts to add in.
 
jaycuda said:
Aslong as I stay at 100 or under I just put the chain of my belt around the DB, less of a hassle than dealing with plates.
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I think I have dear though as two plates broke my friends belt while he was lifting...

Hmm. Interesting about using the db... I can't see it see It sitting securely on the chain.
 
mattrag said:
I think I have dear though as two plates broke my friends belt while he was lifting...

Hmm. Interesting about using the db... I can't see it see It sitting securely on the chain.
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Aslong as you are using a semi-heavy DB, it'll be fine thanks to physics. Set the DB standing up next to the dip station -> Walk towards it and loop the chain around one of the DB heads -> Dip

I've never had a problem with a DB falling off while dipping. Just make sure the DB is leaning on the chain so it "hooks" in the right direction.
 
May 21st, Chest/Biceps

Barbell Flat Bench
135x10
205x5
245x2
275x2
305x1
325x1 PR pause

DB Flat Bench
70'sx10
85'sx10
100'sx10
100'sx10
100'sx10

Alternating DB Curls
25'sx10
35'sx10
40'sx10
40'sx10
40'sx8

Barbell Curls
45x10
65x10
85x10
85x10
85x10


Weight has been staying pretty steady lately 169.X. The past week I've started to feel a nice strength gain. Vascularity is up but most noticeably in spots like my shoulders and pelvic area. First time I've ever seen a vein a few inches from my nipple(kind of near my lat) stick out.
 
May 22nd, Quads/Hams.

Squats
135x5
225x5
275x5
315x3
355x3
385x3 3 rep PR.(All my squats are a$s to ankles legitimately.)
I was planning to do a 1RM but my head wasn't up for it today.

Leg Extensions
80x10
160x10
180x10
180x10
200x7

Leg Press
4 platesx10
8 platesx10
A lot of platesx10
A lot of platesx10
A lot of plates-2x10

RDLs(Strapped)
135x10
225x5
275x5
305x5
335x5
335x5
315x5

Laying Ham Curls -
45x10
135x10
135x10
135x10
100x25 <--- We can call this the "I don't want to feel my legs"
 
jaycuda said:
May 22nd, Quads/Hams.

Squats
135x5
225x5
275x5
315x3
355x3
385x3 3 rep PR.(All my squats are a$s to ankles legitimately.)
I was planning to do a 1RM but my head wasn't up for it today.

Leg Extensions
80x10
160x10
180x10
180x10
200x7

Leg Press
4 platesx10
8 platesx10
A lot of platesx10
A lot of platesx10
A lot of plates-2x10

RDLs(Strapped)
135x10
225x5
275x5
305x5
335x5
335x5
315x5

Laying Ham Curls -
45x10
135x10
135x10
135x10
100x25 <--- We can call this the "I don't want to feel my legs"
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That is a good 100lbs over my ATG back squat....
Gonna have to work on that as I want to one day back squat 250kgX3 lol.
 
May 24th, Shoulders/Traps.

Barbell Military Press
135x5
165x5
185x5
195x4 Rep PR
195x2
185x3

DB rear delt raises
15'sx10
15'sx10
25'sx10

Front Raises
15'sx10
25'sx10
25'sx10
25'sx10

Dumbbell Lateral Raises
20'sx10
20'sx10
30'sx10
30'sx10

Barbell Shrugs
135x15
225x10
315x8
315x8
315x8
[Superset]
Dumbbell Shrugs
65'sx10
65'sx10
80'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10

Upright rows
45x10
65x10
75x10

This was the last day of Compound 20 and I have one day left in my prime bottle.

Final Review:
My favorite thing about this stack was my vascalurity. The normal places I notice veins(Biceps/Forearms/etc) definitely increased but where it really shined is around my ribcage/lats and then around my lower abs. Strength gains were definitely there and compared to other, non-hormonal, products I have tried this would be one of my favorites.

The only cons that I could think of would be the amount of capsules you have to take and that I have been feeling DOMs since I started taking this stack. Neither of them were huge issues and I actually kind of like getting DOMs but I know a lot of people do not.
 
nice work man...

Good job on the log.

[video=youtube;sCslAZy9v-Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCslAZy9v-Y[/video]

Check my form. I posted this on my thread too but I wanna make sure you see it lol.
 
mattrag said:
nice work man...

Good job on the log.

[video=youtube;sCslAZy9v-Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCslAZy9v-Y[/video]

Check my form. I posted this on my thread too but I wanna make sure you see it lol.
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Seemed good enough to me, a lot of people I see try to do them end up pushing with their toes instead of staying on their heels.

Only thing I recommend is get weightlifting shoes so you lean forward less.
 
jaycuda said:
Seemed good enough to me, a lot of people I see try to do them end up pushing with their toes instead of staying on their heels.

Only thing I recommend is get weightlifting shoes so you lean forward less.
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Yea I think I need them shoes....
 
jaycuda said:
This was the last day of Compound 20 and I have one day left in my prime bottle.

Final Review:
My favorite thing about this stack was my vascalurity. The normal places I notice veins(Biceps/Forearms/etc) definitely increased but where it really shined is around my ribcage/lats and then around my lower abs. Strength gains were definitely there and compared to other, non-hormonal, products I have tried this would be one of my favorites.

The only cons that I could think of would be the amount of capsules you have to take and that I have been feeling DOMs since I started taking this stack. Neither of them were huge issues and I actually kind of like getting DOMs but I know a lot of people do not.
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Great stuff man! Nice work with this log, its been fun following along with you. Congratulations on your progress bro!
 
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