Mike Arnold
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Label completed. The labels for both the original ProSynthesis-17 and ProSynthesis-BUILD are now being sent to the printer. 
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It's coming...
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djbombsquad
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Difference is carbs ?
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
Difference from the original? That’s the phosphatidic acid and HMB.
LeanEngineer
Legend
That caught my eye to. Although typically I just use my scale regardless so I would just weigh it out to the 40g serving.
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
i know he reforumlated couple of times ..increased the servings per container and making sure we get full G of servings
just guessing might be more to it.
regardless cant wait to pick one up ..looks great MA
hercules_22
Active member
This looks amazing
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
If I were to guess, I know serving sizes are listed by weight and scoops are by volume. So it’s almost never perfect. My guess was that he found one that was as close as possible instead of trying to contract a new size of scooper. Just figured I’d ask.
thatsuppguy
Active member
Very interested.
Mike Arnold
Board Sponsor
Hi. No. There aren't any carbs in it. Can you see the label image in the OP? If it isn't showing up, let me know. Thanks.
ProSynthesis-BUILD contains additional ingredients in the form of Mediator-PA (phosphatidic acid), HICA, HMB, and a higher dose of L-citrulline and betaine. Just the Mediator-PA by itself usually sells for about $50. I will be charging a fraction of that price.
Mike Arnold
Board Sponsor
Nope. Each ingredient possesses a different weight to volume ratio. There weren't any scoops available that perfectly fit 40 grams of this product in an even number of scoops, so people will have to eyeball it. It shouldn't be too hard to do, as the scoop is clear and the same width along its entire length.
The truth is that most products don't have perfect size scoops. The number of products that require a perfectly level scoop(s) is in the small minority. That's why so many companies will say things like "use a rounded scoop" or "use a heaping scoop".
Besides, what exactly is a "rounded scoop"? How rounded do they mean? A little? A lot? What exactly is a "heaping scoop"? Moderately heaping? As much as the scoop can hold without the powder falling off? What, exactly?
Do you see the problem here?
MOST companies aren't providing you with an exact serving size...because they can't. They're essentially telling you to guess by saying things like "heaping" or "rounded" scoops. Even when the directions say level scoops, rarely does a perfectly level scoop give you the exact prescribed dose. The companies are simply using a scoop that's as close as they can get and then providing additional details like "level", "rounded" or "heaping". All of these terms, aside from "level" are subjective...and like I already said, even "level" rarely means perfectly level.At least with ProSynthesis, the directions are extremely accurate. 40 grams requires EXACTLY 2 2/3rd level scoops.
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Mike Arnold
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You are exactly correct. I explained the prior post above. Rarely do the scoop directions provide the exact prescribed dose. If people measured their products on a scale, they would see that most of them fall into the "less than exact" category of scoop sizes, regardless of whether they say to use a level scoop, a rounded scoop, or a heaping scoop (which are subjective terms anyway).
Mike Arnold
Board Sponsor
Bingo.
Most people don't realize that the scooping instructions for most products do NOT provide them with the exact number of grams as shown in supplement facts section. I was trying to be as accurate as possible.
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
Wohooo can’t wait for intro sale
Gonna be perfect addition to my natural stack
Gonna be perfect addition to my natural stack
Segansational
Well-known member
This will be a definite purchase!
Darkhorse192
Well-known member
release, and price point? I'm interested, would be willing to pre-order if necessary
Mike Arnold
Board Sponsor
Why ProSynthesis-BUILD is the Best Deal on the Market for EAAs & Phophatidic Acid
Please keep in mind that I provide a 10% discount code year-round to everyone here (discount code: am20, or one of my rep's codes), so the price is 10% lower than the store retail price. With that said, I am not 100% sure yet, but I am 95% certain that the price of ProSynthesis-17 will retail for about $65.99 and the price of ProSynthesis-BUILD will retail for about $89.99. Once the discount code is applied, you're looking at about $59 and $81, respectively.
If you haven't read the rational behind the pricing in other threads, I'll briefly touch on it here. ProSynthesis-17 provides over a full kg (1050 gm) of amino acids for just under $60. Just based on that alone, it is already among the most price-competitive amino acid products on the market. Once you consider the additional benefits ProSynthesis-17 has over other EAA products (e.g., a superior amino acid ratio, the inclusion of mTOR priming aminos, etc.), I believe it is the best EAA product on the market, bar none.
ProSynthesis-BUILD is an even better deal! In short, ProSynthesis-BUILD is like getting an entire bottle of ProSynthesis-17, PLUS a full 30 day supply of Mediator-PA (phosphatidic acid)...and HMB & HICA...and extra citrulline and betaine, for LESS than $25 more. In fact, once the 10% code is applied, ProSynthesis-BUILD will only cost about $22 more than proSynthesis-17! Getting a full 30 day supply of Mediator-PA, along with HMB, HICA, citrulline and betaine for only $22 more, is a CRAZY good deal. In fact, I am making basically ZERO dollars on those extra ingredients. Do you know of a single other company that will provide you with over a KG of aminos for $59...and then give you Mediator-PA, HMB, HICA, and extra citrulline and betaine for manufacturing cost? NOPE! No one does that. No one.
Honestly, it's kind of crazy to go anywhere else for either EAAs or Mediator-PA. Even if someone was originally intending on purchasing only Mediator-PA, it still makes sense to buy ProSynthesis-BUILD. Why spend $50 OR MORE on Mediator-PA alone, when you can spend just $20-$30 more and get a full kg of aminos, HICA, HMB, Cit, Betaine, etc.?
ProSynthesis-BUILD is BY FAR the best deal on the market for aminos and phosphatidic acid. It's not even close...because no one else is selling 1050 gams of aminos for $59...and then giving you Mediator-PA, HICA, HMB, etc., at manufacturing cost. No one is doing that.
I FULLY EXPECT ProSynthesis-BUILD to fly off the shelves. How could it not? Unless someone is incapable of doing basic math...or has no idea what the typical price of EAAs and phosphatidic acid is...or falls victim to advertising-marketing ploys, ProSynthesis-BUILD is the obvious choice. The awesome thing is that I can say all this with zero guilt...because it's the truth. It's basic math. The best deal is the best deal, period. I don't have to come up with gimmicky ways to sell the product...or be dishonest. All I have to do is tell people the basic facts...and the product will sell itself.
I knew FULL WELL that buy selling ProSynthesis-BUILD at its current price, that the profit margin would be much lower than the typical industry average for supplements, but I also knew that if I could educate enough people about these basic facts, the reduced profit margin wouldn't matter...because I would make up for the loss with more sales.
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
You can use it however you want. But for maximum results, in theory, you want to spike blood amino acids to switch on mTOR signaling.
Brianmc83
Member
Thanks for the detailed response I really appreciate it. I agree it's a great price for all these ingredients. PA alone is over 50 dollars although I for one am not sold on it at least for such a high price. It's a much better value in your product combined with the high doses of amino and additional ingredients. I will definitely be purchasing once released
chainsaw
Well-known member
I am in same boat as I will buy the product. However I havent not take PA alone to know if or how it work in me. I also see other ingredients in the formula as well which I aslo havent used. Maybe I will try base formula 1st, not because of price point, just as not sure about how other ingredeints work.
Danksta710
Active member
I pay about a little over $50 shipped for Morphogen's EAA's, so this is a great deal imo for a better formula. Very excited to see this happening! Timing is great too as I'm on the last tub...
BCseacow83
Well-known member
The shear size of the jug compared to the average eaa product will at least give a visual representation of MORE for the average person. Low information consumers will need to be educated on what they are getting and the value. Some will see it, others who just want the cheap **** will not. There are plenty of products on the market for the latter group, nice to have one for those wanting the most/best.
Rocket3015
Legend
I will be ordering! Can I just use 3 scoops ?
@Mike Arnold - How would this be as an afternoon meal replacement for some one cutting ??
@Mike Arnold - How would this be as an afternoon meal replacement for some one cutting ??
Darkhorse192
Well-known member
I'm down for a few tubs of build bro. Just let me know where to sign lol
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
You could. I don’t think it would work great as a “meal” because there’s really nothing to digest, so it won’t be very satiating at all. But it’ll give another spike in protein synthesis as if you ate another high protein meal. So, it depends on what you want to get out of it I guess.
Rocket3015
Legend
That was exactly what I had in mind, I like to consume some protein about 3pm between lunch and dinner, but I don't want a lot of calories. Thank you for your response. Sign Me Up !!!
Mike Arnold
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I can take Zelle, as well...but you would have to pm me.Is MASupps still e-check or money order/personal check? My credit union is no longer processing e-check orders
sammpedd88
Well-known member
I can take Zelle, as well...but you would have to pm me.
That’s good to know!
BigGame84
Well-known member
I can take Zelle, as well...but you would have to pm me.
I just used personal check for MA Research and it took about a week once I sent the check in the mail and to get shipping confirmation. Quick turnaround, IMO.
No big deal, I'll continue with personal checks, just frustrated my credit union no longer accepts the e-checks.
BigGame84
Well-known member
I can take Zelle, as well...but you would have to pm me.
So I just got Zelle. May try it out for my next order. Best way to contact you is to PM on here? Would we still need to place an order on the site first to get an Order #, and then send a PM?
Darkhorse192
Well-known member
been in this game for 3+ decades and am still unsure how to account for the calorie load of EAA's :/
Rocket3015
Legend
That's at least two of us ???
sammpedd88
Well-known member
Yeah….I thought I was the only one that didn’t know this
Mike Arnold
Board Sponsor
When you're ready to order, please do the following:
1.) Place the order on the website like normal, but choose the "personal check/money order" payment option.
2.) Email me at the email address below. Please put the text "Zelle Payment" in the email title...and in the actual email itself, please include your order number (which will show up on the final page of the website after ordering) and/or the name you ordered under. This way we can connect your payment to your order. That's it. Your order will be shipped within 24 hours (not including Sundays) and tracking will be sent to your email.
Email Address: [email protected]
Note: I am going to be putting Zelle on both websites as an official payment option in the next week or two.
Mike Arnold
Board Sponsor
Yeah, it's super quick and easy.
Rocket3015
Legend
I just got Cash App it was a hassle.
LeanEngineer
Legend
Same here. It's my go to. Either that or paypal.