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Beelzebub
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Weight: 271 lbs
Leg's and bi's went awesome today. Squats are up 10lbs, got 415 for 6, trying for 8 next week. Bi's are up as well, got another 2 reps on 110lbs EZ bar curls.
And I gave into indulgence. No no, I don't mean food. I started superdrol, couldn't take it anymore. Started 20mgs, 10 in the morning, 10 preworkout. Haven't quite decided what to do with M4ohn yet. Considering both aren't considered too stressful I may keep them both, even though I always find stacking methyl's a horrible idea. Any thoughts?
Feeling good, the adex officially knocked out all bloat issues. Added a few more cals to the mix, all vegetables though so I'm not worried about it.
Leg's and bi's went awesome today. Squats are up 10lbs, got 415 for 6, trying for 8 next week. Bi's are up as well, got another 2 reps on 110lbs EZ bar curls.
And I gave into indulgence. No no, I don't mean food. I started superdrol, couldn't take it anymore. Started 20mgs, 10 in the morning, 10 preworkout. Haven't quite decided what to do with M4ohn yet. Considering both aren't considered too stressful I may keep them both, even though I always find stacking methyl's a horrible idea. Any thoughts?
Feeling good, the adex officially knocked out all bloat issues. Added a few more cals to the mix, all vegetables though so I'm not worried about it.
I don't do cutters though :lol:
Beelzebub
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Weight: 272 lbs
Shoulders and back were today. I readjusted military dumbbell presses, now going all the way down til the dumbbell touches my shoulder, nice and slow. Got 105's for 6. Deadlifts didn't feel too suave today, got up to 405 and it didn't feel right, so I stopped there. Was hoping to hit 515 today for a set but I didn't want to risk it. Barbell rows up 10lbs, got 325 for 8.
Starting to feel slightly lethargic, could be superdrol, since it is the new addition.
Shoulders and back were today. I readjusted military dumbbell presses, now going all the way down til the dumbbell touches my shoulder, nice and slow. Got 105's for 6. Deadlifts didn't feel too suave today, got up to 405 and it didn't feel right, so I stopped there. Was hoping to hit 515 today for a set but I didn't want to risk it. Barbell rows up 10lbs, got 325 for 8.
Starting to feel slightly lethargic, could be superdrol, since it is the new addition.
Beelzebub
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cool deal, i'll figure it out one way or the other.
weight: 272 lbs (as of friday, 4lbs gain overall)
but i can tell ya right now, i'm heavier since friday. superdrol must be kicking in.
measurements: (as of today)
Neck : 19 1/2"
Arms : 20 1/8"
Chest : 50 3/4"
Waist : 41 3/8" (a tad less than last week)
Thighs: 25 1/2"
Calves : 16 3/4"
only bad effect i've got so far was mentioned earlier. the headache is a pain in the.....head. :think:
probably from elevated blood pressure, once i get the supps glen mentioned, i'll give em a whirl.
however, i'm pretty stubborn when it comes to cycles, i highly doubt i'll drop anything unless i'm bleeding from my eyes and seeing dinosaurs raping ATM machines, then i'll consider it.
weight: 272 lbs (as of friday, 4lbs gain overall)
but i can tell ya right now, i'm heavier since friday. superdrol must be kicking in.
measurements: (as of today)
Neck : 19 1/2"
Arms : 20 1/8"
Chest : 50 3/4"
Waist : 41 3/8" (a tad less than last week)
Thighs: 25 1/2"
Calves : 16 3/4"
only bad effect i've got so far was mentioned earlier. the headache is a pain in the.....head. :think:
probably from elevated blood pressure, once i get the supps glen mentioned, i'll give em a whirl.
however, i'm pretty stubborn when it comes to cycles, i highly doubt i'll drop anything unless i'm bleeding from my eyes and seeing dinosaurs raping ATM machines, then i'll consider it.
exnihilo
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You might want to look into a small dose of a diuretic such as lasix coupled with a selective beta blocker. A few people I know have had blood pressure problems on tren only, which is obviously not related to bloating.
That's more of a final solution in the event the supplements don't work though.
That's more of a final solution in the event the supplements don't work though.
glenihan
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i'd stay away from lasix and use a natural diuretic like anything with taraxacum officinale leaf extract ... 1fast has a product called taraxatone that i used for 2 days before i was going to see some chick lost 2 inches on my waist! so i definitely dropped a ton of water ... of course all the water came back but it could help given that you're definitely holding more than you normally would
Beelzebub
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Day 15
how about dandelion root? i've a bottle here that may assist if a natural diuretic is the answer. in any case, the headache left and did not return today so i'm happy for now.
Weight: 275 lbs
I'm looking leaner than a few days ago but weight continues to climb, not that I'm complaining. Chest/tri's were today. All lifts are up. Flat bench, got 335 for 9 with a slight spot on 9. Switched tri's up and did a backwards routine so I can't really judge strength from last week, although I did get more reps than the previous tri workout. Lo and behold, my abs do exist, contrary to previous thought. I've still got a ways to go though.
how about dandelion root? i've a bottle here that may assist if a natural diuretic is the answer. in any case, the headache left and did not return today so i'm happy for now.
Weight: 275 lbs
I'm looking leaner than a few days ago but weight continues to climb, not that I'm complaining. Chest/tri's were today. All lifts are up. Flat bench, got 335 for 9 with a slight spot on 9. Switched tri's up and did a backwards routine so I can't really judge strength from last week, although I did get more reps than the previous tri workout. Lo and behold, my abs do exist, contrary to previous thought. I've still got a ways to go though.
Beelzebub
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Well, I had an interesting injection today into the left delt. Injected in the same exact spot as the previous rotation on left delt, aspirated (air), injected, kept it there for a few seconds, pulled out,........blood spurts in a 4-5 foot high stream. It took me a few seconds to realize what the **** I was looking at. Plugged it up with an alcohol pad and that was the end of it. It bled a little bit more afterwards but the stream had ceased. I figure I hit a blood vessel or something going in but didn't inject into it. I didn't get any weird feelings afterwards like people say when they inject into a vein, so I figure I'm ok. That was 3 hours ago. Shoulder feels like it's going to be sore as **** tomorrow though.
Cuffs
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Something similar happened to a friend of mine. Just no quit as Charles Mansonish with the 4-5 feet of squirting blood...LOL. Just curious, but did you inject after you had worked out? Just asking because when this happened to my friend, it was not long after his workout, and delts were still somewhat pumped I guess.
Beelzebub
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Chemist63 said:
0800 45-60 minutes cardio
0915 16oz milk, 3 eggs, scoop of protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 TB peanut butter (blended)
1230 8-10 oz grilled chicken, 4oz sweet potatoes, 1 cup vegetables
1330 1.5 hours workout
1515 3 scoops protein powder in water (gatorade on workout days)
1900 8oz lean beef, 1 cup vegetables
2130 3 scoops protein powder
2330 16oz milk, 3 eggs, scoop of protein (blended)
This is pretty much it to a T.
Beelzebub
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exnihilo said:
no ****? damn. but then again, you cut on 6000 cals a day, which seems insane to me, damn powerlifters :hammer:
anywho,
weight: 275 lbs
leg's and bi's were today. starting to drift towards a powerlifting routine little by little, damn you exnihilo :trout: . tried box squats for the first time in my life today. had a wider than normal stance and set it up for a little below parallel. i basically come to a dead stop at the bottom, sitting down on the box for about 1 second, then exploding back up. being my first time trying them, i stuck with 315 for 6. i expect to be jumping up rather quickly though. they suck balls but it was a good change and it feels good to have something different in the routine. starting to read through articles at elitefitness for PL tips. bi's, got 115 for 8 on standing EZ curl bar, that's up 10lbs from last week.
all side effects i had are now gone. no more headaches, no nausea, etc. only thing i've got now is the beginnings of back pumps, but it's not bad as of now. i'm still able to do morning cardio, it just doesn't take as much to get the heartrate up now. jminis gave me a good idea for HIIT cardio in the mornings so i may be implementing that pretty soon depending on how crunched i am for time.
Beelzebub
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HIIT cardio sucks balls. Reminds me of the good ol' days of running up mountains for morning PT with a 1st Sgt yelling in my ear. Did 20 minutes this morning, 1 minute max effort, 1 minute slow pace alternated. However, I do like it, feels more productive than walking for 45 minutes.
exnihilo
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Beelzebub said:
*taps fingers together montgomery burns stye* Excellent... The box squat will help you off the bottom, but it's biggest benefit comes when you squat in a squat suit, probably redundant for you. The thing I'd get you doing first is low rep band and chain work while focusing on being explosive through the entire lift. I'd probably also have you working on 3 or 4 board press with like 430-ish for sets of 3 or 5 depending on how strong your top end is, that'll make you monster strong. I also like deadlifts with bands blue bands lightening the load at the bottom, really builds some crazy strength.
exnihilo
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Beelzebub said:what's your handle on elite? gotta couple questions to pm ya.
I don't post over there. You can PM me here or send to my hushmail ([email protected]), whichever you prefer.
Beelzebub
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Weight: 279 lbs
Tren must be kicking in cuz strength is starting to pick up rather noticeably. Military dumbbells up 10lbs each hand, got 110's for 7. Can't remember if I posted it last week, but I'm going all the way down with the dumbbells to where it touches my shoulder then back up. The ROM feels more productive. Deadlifts have become an impossibility. Back pumps have became a routine again. Feels like deadlifts just walking to the water fountain. Barbell rows up 10lbs, got 335 for 8, last rep was an ugly though. Remainder of the workout was great. All lifts are up ranging from 10-40lbs on some of them. Feel great except for the back pumps. HCG started a couple days ago, 250iu every 3 days, similar to swale's protocol.
Tren must be kicking in cuz strength is starting to pick up rather noticeably. Military dumbbells up 10lbs each hand, got 110's for 7. Can't remember if I posted it last week, but I'm going all the way down with the dumbbells to where it touches my shoulder then back up. The ROM feels more productive. Deadlifts have become an impossibility. Back pumps have became a routine again. Feels like deadlifts just walking to the water fountain. Barbell rows up 10lbs, got 335 for 8, last rep was an ugly though. Remainder of the workout was great. All lifts are up ranging from 10-40lbs on some of them. Feel great except for the back pumps. HCG started a couple days ago, 250iu every 3 days, similar to swale's protocol.
Lean One
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I use 1-Fast. I will say though, and this is mostly speculation, that It works best when taken from the start of a SD cycle. That's what I did and I have had ZERO cramps. I'm not sure it will work as well if the cramps are already kicking in hard. Unless you mega dose it for a few days possibly.