Is this enough for a lean bulk? Test/Tren E cycle

TheMaharaja

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I know it comes down to mostly diet/training, but my questions concern the anabolic dosing scheme.

Background info: Carb cycling. 3 days over maintenance. 2-3 days maintenance. 1-2 days below maintenance. Doing 20 min jogging as soon as I wake up on non-lifting days. Might change it to lifting days too. I dont get fat anywhere except my ****king gut, and it goes on my love handles FIRST!!!! This is my first run with tren. Taking Caber .25mg 2x a week, along with B-6 daily.


Anabolics:
Test E @200mg/week for 18-20 weeks
Tren E @400/mg week for 18-20 weeks. (was at 350mg for 4 weeks).

Currently: Im in week 5 right now. Strength gains are noticeable. Only sides seem to be night sweats and mild irritability (but I can be moody even without anything so its hard to say). I think there is size gain, need to actually begin using the scale. I hate being a slave to the scale so I try not to use it.

I want to keep the test low to keep the sides low, but does anybody think there is a merit in bumping the test for more gains? I might increase the tren to 500.

I will be crusing on test e @ 300-500mg/week after this cycle.


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Since you're going for so long I would keep the doses on the low end. You could cut it back to typical 12-14 week cycle and bump the doses too. I hate being on for longer than 8-9 weeks.
 
threeFs said:
From what I've heard about tren, sides get worse as test dose increases.
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That's what I heard to and the night sweats and interrupted sleep are already there.

bad rad said:
Since you're going for so long I would keep the doses on the low end. You could cut it back to typical 12-14 week cycle and bump the doses too. I hate being on for longer than 8-9 weeks.
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That's true. I might just cut the cycle to 14 weeks since Im gonna cruise anyways.
 
your gonna love the results!! just came off of 12 weeks of- test-cyp/750/week/Tren-E 200mgs/E4days- started at 224-ended at 248 lean, vascular, and strong as a bull. Im 51yrs. old lifted for 30+ yrs. 1st cycle at 34. Never Looked better. LIFT FOR LIFE!!
 
TheMaharaja said:
I know it comes down to mostly diet/training, but my questions concern the anabolic dosing scheme.

Background info: Carb cycling. 3 days over maintenance. 2-3 days maintenance. 1-2 days below maintenance. Doing 20 min jogging as soon as I wake up on non-lifting days. Might change it to lifting days too. I dont get fat anywhere except my ****king gut, and it goes on my love handles FIRST!!!! This is my first run with tren. Taking Caber .25mg 2x a week, along with B-6 daily.

Anabolics:
Test E @200mg/week for 18-20 weeks
Tren E @400/mg week for 18-20 weeks. (was at 350mg for 4 weeks).

Currently: Im in week 5 right now. Strength gains are noticeable. Only sides seem to be night sweats and mild irritability (but I can be moody even without anything so its hard to say). I think there is size gain, need to actually begin using the scale. I hate being a slave to the scale so I try not to use it.

I want to keep the test low to keep the sides low, but does anybody think there is a merit in bumping the test for more gains? I might increase the tren to 500.

I will be crusing on test e @ 300-500mg/week after this cycle.
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Damn that seems like a long time to be on tren. 20 weeks? I blasted for 6 weeks cruised for 6 and am currently blasting for 2 weeks of tren ace. I ran 100mg eod prop 50. Cruised on 200mg cyp and am currently back on tren and prop+cyp and will take my last pin sun. But with all that said I think I have been on for 2 long. Careful of running tren for that long IMO.
 
BigShadow said:
Damn that seems like a long time to be on tren. 20 weeks? I blasted for 6 weeks cruised for 6 and am currently blasting for 2 weeks of tren ace. I ran 100mg eod prop 50. Cruised on 200mg cyp and am currently back on tren and prop+cyp and will take my last pin sun. But with all that said I think I have been on for 2 long. Careful of running tren for that long IMO.
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That's not too long imho. I'm running tren e for 8mos
 
400mg per week tren e is not high at all. Ur barely getting 300mg of actual hormone wit that ester and its the most stable ester there is.

8months might be a little excessive but it's not that crazy.
 
GLHF said:
400mg per week tren e is not high at all. Ur barely getting 300mg of actual hormone wit that ester and its the most stable ester there is.

8months might be a little excessive but it's not that crazy.
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I'm only using 300... it really need not be any higher - I always look to find the dose that produces optimal gains with minimal sides.. for me, 300/wk is plenty for tren. Excellent thermogenic effect, strength, vascularity, muscle density, etc
 
8 months is too long for anything you should always be mixing it up every 6-8 weeks or so just like anything else your body will adjust so keep it guessing!
 
MarkjFitz102 said:
8 months is too long for anything you should always be mixing it up every 6-8 weeks or so just like anything else your body will adjust so keep it guessing!
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This is one of the dumbest things I've read on AM. Strong broscience... can you provide me some studies to back up this wild claim?
 
It's not bro science it's called homeostasis. Ur body will do everything to even out.
 
GLHF said:
It's not bro science it's called homeostasis. Ur body will do everything to even out.
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While it appears you know the definition of homeostasis, you used it incorrectly. That makes no sense at all. Staying on a certain chemical compound for a period of time such as test/tren will not have your body return to homeostasis if you do not switch up the compounds every few weeks. If this were the case, the steroids would become ineffective if you used them for a few months!? Yeah, that's actually quite laughable! And definitely, NOT, the case. It is true however, that the AR receptor sites may become a bit nullified - but even that takes A LOT more than a few weeks on any given substance, and you'd need some hefty dosing... Even then, if you know anything about steroids, you'd know there's steroids (such as OT, winnie, and proviron) and other substances that can reduce SHBG to free up testosterone making it more effective at any given dose.
 
MarkjFitz102 said:
Experience
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If that's all you have to go off of, I'm ending the disagreement here - it's pointless if you cannot back anything up with hard evidence other than Oh hey - look at me I'm muscular and ripped so I must know what I'm talking about. lmao Yeah I have experience too... with everything from prohormones and aas to epo/hGH/slin/peptides... except I know a thing or two in the sciences to go along with it.
 
Cruising on tren is not unheard of. 300 is a little high but I wouldn't stress it. If u r going to cruise I tren I would run a low dose if test around 100-150mg. For basic fuctions, also I wouldn't run tren e I'd run tren hex. It's more stable. Tren e can be a bit wild and would cause more fluctuations in ur blood saturation. And I'd also mix in some mast. For me personally I would run 400-600mg a week. But I have problems with tren. If u deal with it well u might not need it at all. 100mg of test e and 200mg of tren hex is what someone, I have alot of respect for on this forum is currently running as his
 
Well, that cycle was awesome. Only thing that got to me was tren dick...lol.

Running test and EQ right now, will throw in tren in late september or october. The sides from Tren are worth every bit of it but I need a breather and I want to enjoy sleep and p**** again...
 
TheMaharaja said:
Well, that cycle was awesome. Only thing that got to me was tren dick...lol.

Running test and EQ right now, will throw in tren in late september or october. The sides from Tren are worth every bit of it but I need a breather and I want to enjoy sleep and p**** again...
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Did you have on cycle supports to control prolactin?
 
TheMaharaja said:
I did, but Im beginning to suspect:

1) the caber was bunk/under dosed
2) I should have ran a little AI
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Normally people get erectile issues from something hormonal being out of whack. I just wrapped up a six week tren ace run and I had a porn star libido.
 
Tren is pornstar drug. I never got how ppl don't have libido on tren. As long as u have some test mayb some clomid and whatever tren u take u should destroy kitties. Mayb not drain them in juices but stretch that **** out good
 
GLHF said:
Tren is pornstar drug. I never got how ppl don't have libido on tren. As long as u have some test mayb some clomid and whatever tren u take u should destroy kitties. Mayb not drain them in juices but stretch that **** out good
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Ive never really thought about taking clomid on cycle. Is it pretty common?
 
GLHF said:
Tren is pornstar drug. I never got how ppl don't have libido on tren. As long as u have some test mayb some clomid and whatever tren u take u should destroy kitties. Mayb not drain them in juices but stretch that **** out good
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I was banging my ex on tren one time and when I got done and finally looked at her face she had this unforgettable expression on her face. It was a look between horror and ecstasy all rolled into one. She was also completely soaked from my sweat. So yeah tren is the ****.
 
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