Is this "cycle" ok to take?

deltasig

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OK, here is my plan, im not sure if this is safe to take but this is what i want to do

7 weeks of Mass FX and Hyperdrol x2 (3 pills of each a day)
4 weeks of Mass FX and Superdrol NG (3 pills of each a day)
4 Weeks of PCT

I know the first one is ok, because ive done it before, but i was just wondering if it is ok to go right into 4 weeks of superdrol NG, then ending it with a PCT... or should i wait the 10 weeks...then start the Superdrol??
On the little tags they send with the mass fx bottles, it says not to take mass fx or hyperdrol for more than 12 weeks at a time, so would this be ok because is only 11 weeks? but im also adding the S-NG.... Any input would be welcome and greatly appreciated.
 
No offense, but I'm gonna have to go and disagree with nottus on this one....

Though your stack does sound novel, there are a few holes in the plan. First off, after week 6 of MFX, you should take a 2-week break in it. I would not limit the number of caps/day to those numbers - go 4 of each or work your way into it. You'll get better effect from a full dosage.

Assuming that you are over 21 here, I'll go ahead and make a recommendation with modifications to your ideas...

Week 1-6: MFX, HX2 @ 4/ED
Week 7-8: HX2 @ 4/ED
Week 9-13: MFX, SDNG @ 4/ED
Week 14-17: aPCT

Additional recommendations:
-Week 8: Taper down the dosage of HX2 from 4/ED to 3/ED to 2/ED so that you will finish the week with just 2 on the last day before starting SDNG.
-When starting MFX, SDNG weeks, begin at half doses of each and take it up as you can tolerate it. SDNG has stims in it and may be too much for you at first. Do NOT take SDNG within 6 hours of going to bed!! (Can't stress that enough here.)
-For added effect, Trisorbagen can be used THROUGHOUT this entire cycle to increase the effectiveness of everything.
-I HIGHLY recommend looking into Retain2 throughout this as well. It will maintain healthy cortisol levels, help you to keep your gains, and lean you out. ALWAYS a good idea.

For strict "recommendations of stacks", check out the AX Stack thread. Plenty of idears there. But we'll always help you customize as needed.

Hope that helps - best of luck! :D
 
hm, that was just what i was looking for, yeah i was wondering about the dosage...i mean im only 150 lbs so i dont know what they are going off of. is retain and Trisorbagen really worth the extra money? thats the only reason i was leaving those ones out...

also, im just trying to figure out if its safe to be taking the PH's for that long of a time frame, and mixing it up with the HX2 and SDNG
 
deltasig said:
well i dont really feel like taking superdrol, ive heard some negative things about it...
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You're right. Many people get nasty side effects while others don't. I'm not saying you should run out and buy some. I'm just letting you know that its still available should you choose to go down that road. The new line of AX products appear to be much safer.
 
go ahead

sure go ahead deltasig get the retain 2 and all the other anabolic extreme products i think you may be missing a couple because if you dont know anything about anything you might as well just take everything and maybe something in there might work out for ya. But dont take my word for it take timdull's who by the way if you look at his e-mail address he freakin works for anabolic extremeof course he is going to say great job!!! :0 come on man dont get to pulled into these forums do some research i mean an 150 pound younger lifter im assuming doing an 11 week cycle of stuff your not really sure about seems great. But dont take my word for it im just finishing a 4 week superdrol cycle and went from 173.5 to 185 already and have increased all my lift by at least 20% so what do i know:)
 
So, Nottus, the right answer is a potentially very harsh steroid? You're saying he shouldn't take a stack of supplements from a certain company and even more so because a rep defends it? Look at the label of the orig Superdrol (not the clones, you know, the one most users prefer) and read that company name. Strangely, it's related to Timdull's email.
 
Wow, I'm flattered that my name has come up so many times in this thread! :D

While I'm not about to go saying that anyone in particular is giving terrible advice here... I'm close to it. Please keep the drama OUT of these threads, this board, our section, and what I'm considering to be the OP's thread!!! There's another board for that and you're probably welcome there, too.

As for the OP's dilemma, you'd be fine to run things as I layed out. Retain2 and Trisorbagen are worthwhile investments - not just because I'm a rep, but because I have EXPERIENCE with them as well. You can take my word for whatever you should choose - I just try to tell it like it is and provide the best, honest response to help you out with what you need. R2 will help with the cortisol. If you gain weight by eating a bunch during a bulk, particularly around the midsection, then R2 is going to also be that insurance against storing fat there. I used it on a cut for a prolonged period of time and upped the dose without any ill-effects whatsoever - only losing about 6" from my gut and 2 pants sizes while maintaining and gaining strength (full log of which is on our home forum). Trisorbagen "unlocks potential" of anything that you use it with. Aside from that, there's other general health benefits to it as well. If you're a youngin and still have trouble with "skin problems", then Trisorb may even help to alleviate these little nightmares and clear your skin up. For full info on this, visit the write-up stickied in this section of AM.

In all, I'm not going to recommend the original SD to anyone for any reason - due to liability purposes and the fact that I've not run it myself. I just won't mess with information regarding something I haven't used, especially if it is not one of our current (and endorsed) products. Let's leave it at that, shall we? Thanks much.

Anything else you need, just let me know.
 
ok, one last question, when i take them should im taking the combinatin of any of these, do i take them spread out during the day? or should i have them pre workout, post workout, pre bed?...or whats a good schedule to take them
 
I've taken both UMC and SDNG+Mass FX cycles. The spread I used was 1(of each) in am/2, 45min before workout/1 late pm. This was also pretty evenly spread out throughout my day. IIRC, this was the protocol suggested in a few posts (please correct me if I'm wrong) and it worked very well for me each time.
Def take half dose of SDNG for the first few days. I started at full dose on Day 1 and, normally, I'm very resilient to stims, but I had a very hard time sleeping for the first two days, even when I took prior to six hours before sleep.
 
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Good post, Etomic. Definitely start with half doses of SDNG...and MFX if you like.

General guidelines follow 2 schools of thought - even spread and the power play. You could either space the doses out throughout the day, insuring (when it's time) to take SDNG no earlier than 6 hours before bed. The other way to do it would be to double up on both SDNG and MFX pre-workout. SDNG will amplify the workout through the stimulants while a double of MFX really cranks up the intensity and "alpha male" feeling.

If you like, let me know your daily schedule including times for waking, workout and bed, and I'll be glad to do the "math" for you to figure when it would be best to take things. (Incidentally, I love doing timing...I do my own in spreadsheets and print them out so I make sure I don't miss anything. Then again, when you pop about 25 pills/day, you gotta keep track of things! ;) )
 
haha, well i dont plan on popping that many pills a day, but my schedule is as follows... i wake up at about 5am and do situps/pull ups/pushups for 15-20 mins...get things done and go to work by 6. im at work til 2.30. then this is where it gets tricky... then i go to school and take classes. and am in bed usually around 10pm. the times i get to workout are around 4pm or 5.30pm. and weekends are open...

so by reading this whole "extra surge" of energy, maybe i should take your "power play" method so i have more energy during my workout?
 
deltasig said:
so by reading this whole "extra surge" of energy, maybe i should take your "power play" method so i have more energy during my workout?
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Actually, yes! I think that it'd work really well for you. Your schedule is pretty much like mine so this should be easy enough...

HX2, MFX R2 Cycle:

Wake: 1 MFX, 1 HX2, 1 R2
Lunch: 1 MFX, 1 HX2, 1 R2
Pre-w/o: 2 MFX (intensify workouts)
Pre-bed: 2 HX2 (helps ya sleep better!)

SDNG, MFX Cycle:

Wake: 1 MFX, 1 SDNG
Lunch: 1 MFX, 1 SDNG
Pre-w/o: 2 MFX, 2 SDNG
(If using Retain here, dose same as above.)

Trisorbagen can be added in at any point and with any/all doses.
 
alright, i think that all sounds good. thank you timdull2 and etomic for your input and advice. im looking forward to all of this!
 
deltasig said:
alright, i think that all sounds good. thank you timdull2 and etomic for your input and advice. im looking forward to all of this!
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Awesome! Glad that you decided to rock this shiznit. If you need help along the way, you know where to find us!! If immediate, e-mail me anytime. I'm neurotic about e-mails. ;)
 
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