Is there a supplement out there proven to truly increase hgh?
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Arnold Jr.
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Halfnattyman44
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I think your best basics to start with are super high dose Arginine, GABA, or Glutamine. An all in one supplement that would probably be good for that and other things would also be SNS Growth Factor XT. Then add Glutamine and Arginine would probably be the best natty stack for it.
sns8778
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Yes, there are natural ingredients that have been shown to increase HGH.
The combination of Chlorophytum Borivilanum and Mucuna that we use in Growth Factor XT has been shown in clinical studies to increase growth hormone levels. The write up goes into detail on it.
Link: https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/growth-factor-xt/
LeanEngineer
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Agreed with trying out Growth Factor XT. It really helps with my sleep as well which in return increases HGH
GQdaLEGEND
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yup you def can with natural ... sns growth factor is a great start all in one.
musli + gaba will do wonders
musli + gaba will do wonders
Mike Arnold
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GH supps have been on the market in various forms and timeframes for many decades. However, to my knowledge, there has never been a single effective FDA allowed product. When I say "effective", I am using that term within the context of and relative to the results injectable GH produces. Certainly, there are numerous compounds which will raise GH levels, but the entire point of increasing GH is to actually see results in muscle mass, fat loss, injury repair, connective tissue regeneration, etc. In order to actually experience these effects, GH levels need to be elevated high enough, and remain there long enough, to produce them.
It's the same with testosterone boosters. There are plenty of natural compounds out there which will increase T levels, but not to the degree necessary to produce benefits even semi-comparable to injectable testosterone. In order to experience these benefits, T levels need to be elevated to supraphysiological levels day after day, month after month. This is why natural test boosters have continued to flop decade after decade. Remember, elevating T levels (via testosterone injections) is still the number one way to increase muscle mass and strength. It's been this way for generations...because it works. Yet, there isn't a single test booster that has stood the test of time. There isn't a single test booster that people continue to use decade after decade. Why? Because they don't provide the growth benefits injectable testosterone, even low dose injectable testosterone, is known for. It's not even close, really. Even a 100 mg/week T injection is going to crush any natural supplement out there, and 100 mg/week isn't even considered supraphysiological use.
It's no different with natural GH boosters. In fact, natural GH boosters are even less effective than natural T boosters. Only GH peptides/secretagogues are capable of mimicking injectable GH (from a GH elevating standpoint), but even then, the effect profile isn't the same due to secretagogues/peptides being ghrelin mimetics. Ghrelin mimetics have their own effect profile independent of their ability to increase GH, which is why every experienced bodybuilder knows that secretagogues/peptides are not "the same" as injectable GH. They are different categories of compounds with different effect profiles. The ability to increase circulating GH is only a common characteristic between the two. On top of that, the secretagogues/peptides are not natural. Some of them may be bioidentical (ex. Sermorelin), but not "natural", in the same sense that injectable T is not considered "natural".
I would love to see a truly natural GH boosting product that actually produced results similar to GH, even lower dose GH, but in order for that to happen, we would need to see a product that elevated GH levels the equivalent of about 3 iu of injectable GH, and then maintain those levels for similar amount of time.
Before I finish, it is true that there are natural compounds capable of causing substantial increases in circulating GH levels, but the problem is that they don't remain elevated. This is the same problem we see with natural T boosters. We've seen several T boosters capable of causing rather large, but transient spikes in T levels. This inability to maintain the increase they produce is the primary area in which these products fall short. But, if one's primary goal is to simply feel and perform a little better, natural T boosters do have some value. However, don't expect to get bigger, just like you shouldn't expect to get more ripped from natural GH boosters.
It's the same with testosterone boosters. There are plenty of natural compounds out there which will increase T levels, but not to the degree necessary to produce benefits even semi-comparable to injectable testosterone. In order to experience these benefits, T levels need to be elevated to supraphysiological levels day after day, month after month. This is why natural test boosters have continued to flop decade after decade. Remember, elevating T levels (via testosterone injections) is still the number one way to increase muscle mass and strength. It's been this way for generations...because it works. Yet, there isn't a single test booster that has stood the test of time. There isn't a single test booster that people continue to use decade after decade. Why? Because they don't provide the growth benefits injectable testosterone, even low dose injectable testosterone, is known for. It's not even close, really. Even a 100 mg/week T injection is going to crush any natural supplement out there, and 100 mg/week isn't even considered supraphysiological use.
It's no different with natural GH boosters. In fact, natural GH boosters are even less effective than natural T boosters. Only GH peptides/secretagogues are capable of mimicking injectable GH (from a GH elevating standpoint), but even then, the effect profile isn't the same due to secretagogues/peptides being ghrelin mimetics. Ghrelin mimetics have their own effect profile independent of their ability to increase GH, which is why every experienced bodybuilder knows that secretagogues/peptides are not "the same" as injectable GH. They are different categories of compounds with different effect profiles. The ability to increase circulating GH is only a common characteristic between the two. On top of that, the secretagogues/peptides are not natural. Some of them may be bioidentical (ex. Sermorelin), but not "natural", in the same sense that injectable T is not considered "natural".
I would love to see a truly natural GH boosting product that actually produced results similar to GH, even lower dose GH, but in order for that to happen, we would need to see a product that elevated GH levels the equivalent of about 3 iu of injectable GH, and then maintain those levels for similar amount of time.
Before I finish, it is true that there are natural compounds capable of causing substantial increases in circulating GH levels, but the problem is that they don't remain elevated. This is the same problem we see with natural T boosters. We've seen several T boosters capable of causing rather large, but transient spikes in T levels. This inability to maintain the increase they produce is the primary area in which these products fall short. But, if one's primary goal is to simply feel and perform a little better, natural T boosters do have some value. However, don't expect to get bigger, just like you shouldn't expect to get more ripped from natural GH boosters.
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djbombsquad
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How Sustamine, KSM-66 and Shilajit Can Increase Growth Hormone (GH) Production
Each of these ingredients influences GH through different mechanisms, making them complementary when used together.
1. Sustamine and GH Production
Glutamine is a GH secretagogue Even small doses (as little as 2 g) of glutamine can stimulate GH release by acting on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland.
Dipeptide form for better absorption Sustamine is absorbed more efficiently than free-form glutamine, ensuring a stronger GH response per dose.
Reduces ammonia buildup, improving exercise performance and recovery both of which are associated with higher GH secretion post-exercise.
2. KSM-66 and GH Production
Lowers cortisol, which is important because cortisol suppresses GH release.
Boosts testosterone and LH, which may have a secondary effect on GH production by supporting overall pituitary function.
Enhances sleep quality, and since GH is primarily released during deep sleep, better sleep = more GH.
3. Shilajit and GH Production
Increases mitochondrial energy production, which is linked to greater ATP availability for pituitary function and GH release.
Boosts testosterone and DHEA, both of which interact with the endocrine system to support IGF-1 and GH production.
Contains fulvic acid, which enhances nutrient absorption, potentially increasing the effectiveness of other GH-supporting ingredients.
Supports nitric oxide (NO) production, which improves blood flow to endocrine glands, helping GH secretion.
How They Work Together
Sustamine provides a direct GH boost, while KSM-66 optimizes the hormonal environment and Shilajit enhances ATP production and testosterone to further support GH.
A pre-workout dose of Sustamine and Shilajit may optimize exercise-induced GH release.
A nighttime dose of KSM-66 and Shilajit may improve sleep quality and GH secretion overnight.
This trio could be a powerful natural GH-amplifying stack.
Each of these ingredients influences GH through different mechanisms, making them complementary when used together.
1. Sustamine and GH Production
Glutamine is a GH secretagogue Even small doses (as little as 2 g) of glutamine can stimulate GH release by acting on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland.
Dipeptide form for better absorption Sustamine is absorbed more efficiently than free-form glutamine, ensuring a stronger GH response per dose.
Reduces ammonia buildup, improving exercise performance and recovery both of which are associated with higher GH secretion post-exercise.
2. KSM-66 and GH Production
Lowers cortisol, which is important because cortisol suppresses GH release.
Boosts testosterone and LH, which may have a secondary effect on GH production by supporting overall pituitary function.
Enhances sleep quality, and since GH is primarily released during deep sleep, better sleep = more GH.
3. Shilajit and GH Production
Increases mitochondrial energy production, which is linked to greater ATP availability for pituitary function and GH release.
Boosts testosterone and DHEA, both of which interact with the endocrine system to support IGF-1 and GH production.
Contains fulvic acid, which enhances nutrient absorption, potentially increasing the effectiveness of other GH-supporting ingredients.
Supports nitric oxide (NO) production, which improves blood flow to endocrine glands, helping GH secretion.
How They Work Together
Sustamine provides a direct GH boost, while KSM-66 optimizes the hormonal environment and Shilajit enhances ATP production and testosterone to further support GH.
A pre-workout dose of Sustamine and Shilajit may optimize exercise-induced GH release.
A nighttime dose of KSM-66 and Shilajit may improve sleep quality and GH secretion overnight.
This trio could be a powerful natural GH-amplifying stack.
djbombsquad
Board Sponsor
you can sip on 10 grams of Sustamine and 800 mg of Alpha-GPC over 10,hours
1. Sustamine
Good for hydration: It enhances electrolyte uptake and cellular hydration, which is useful for prolonged sipping.
Steady GH support: Since glutamine can stimulate GH release, spacing it out may prolong its effects throughout the day rather than causing a single spike.
2. Alpha-GPC Considerations
Cognitive benefits last ~4-6 hours: Alpha-GPC boosts acetylcholine and supports growth hormone (GH), but its half-life is around 4-6 hours. Splitting the dose may help: Instead of sipping it all at once, consider 400 mg at the start and 400 mg later in the day for better brain function and GH support.
How This Stack Works for GH
Sustamine keeps GH levels consistently elevated rather than spiking.
Alpha-GPC enhances GH secretion (especially pre-workout or during fasting).
Both enhance brain function, endurance, and hydration.
Suggested Protocol for a 10-Hour Period:
Morning: Mix 5 g Sustamine + 400 mg Alpha-GPC in water and sip for the first 5 hours.
Afternoon: Mix another 5 g Sustamine + 400 mg Alpha-GPC and sip for the next 5 hours.
1. Sustamine
Good for hydration: It enhances electrolyte uptake and cellular hydration, which is useful for prolonged sipping.
Steady GH support: Since glutamine can stimulate GH release, spacing it out may prolong its effects throughout the day rather than causing a single spike.
2. Alpha-GPC Considerations
Cognitive benefits last ~4-6 hours: Alpha-GPC boosts acetylcholine and supports growth hormone (GH), but its half-life is around 4-6 hours. Splitting the dose may help: Instead of sipping it all at once, consider 400 mg at the start and 400 mg later in the day for better brain function and GH support.
How This Stack Works for GH
Sustamine keeps GH levels consistently elevated rather than spiking.
Alpha-GPC enhances GH secretion (especially pre-workout or during fasting).
Both enhance brain function, endurance, and hydration.
Suggested Protocol for a 10-Hour Period:
Morning: Mix 5 g Sustamine + 400 mg Alpha-GPC in water and sip for the first 5 hours.
Afternoon: Mix another 5 g Sustamine + 400 mg Alpha-GPC and sip for the next 5 hours.
sns8778
Board Sponsor
Yes, there are ingredients that have been shown in clinical studies to increase HGH levels.
Are they going to deliver the same type of benefits that would come from spending thousands of dollars on and injecting prescription HGH every day for months? Of course not.
Here's a few questions and answers that may help:
- Are there supplements that can help increase natural HGH levels? Absolutely.
- Are there supplements that can increase natural HGH levels enough to support restful sleep and recovery? Yes.
- Are there supplements that can increase natural HGH levels enough to be considered great healthy aging and longevity supplements? Yes.
- Are there supplements/ingredients that have been shown in human studies that natural growth hormone levels are still higher 2 hours after ingestion? Yes.
If a person is looking for a supplement to increase growth hormone levels for healthy aging and longevity purposes &/or to support restful sleep and recovery, then yes, there are good ones available.
3ChainedAminos
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So what if we took a sustained released glutamine at night before bed? Constant flow of GH boosting glutamine? Think it would work?
sns8778
Board Sponsor
It wouldn't work like that because it takes a certain amount in one dose to increase growth hormone levels, so sustained release wouldn't accomplish that in this scenario.
John Smeton
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@Mike Arnold is correct. While there are supplements that do increase gh, for a short time peroid, like gaba for half an hour after taking it, then returns to baseline, thats thirty minutesm, or glutamine taken solo, or with bcaa's eaa's or luecine solo
Mucuna pruriens (remember forty percent or higher) are interesting and do lower prolactin ( was on sodium d aspartic acid , prolactin tested high ,32, took 99 percent mucuna, three weeks, prolactin came back at 5 % , while still taking daa. Mucuna would be only otc supplement that could, but havent seen enough data, and I would not use it for this purpose, as increasing dopamine too high, too long , lowers serotonin , just isnt good. Could also interact with anything that boosts serotonin, if taking close to it, before , after , or during, or glp's
Mucuna pruriens (remember forty percent or higher) are interesting and do lower prolactin ( was on sodium d aspartic acid , prolactin tested high ,32, took 99 percent mucuna, three weeks, prolactin came back at 5 % , while still taking daa. Mucuna would be only otc supplement that could, but havent seen enough data, and I would not use it for this purpose, as increasing dopamine too high, too long , lowers serotonin , just isnt good. Could also interact with anything that boosts serotonin, if taking close to it, before , after , or during, or glp's