Is it a bad idea to plan a cut after a (bulking) H-Drol Cycle?

[Mabe]

Hey guys, new poster here. I'm 23 years old and looking to start my first PH cycle w/ H-Drol. I've got the H-Drol, PreCT and PCT supps+SERM, planning to run a 6 week cycle at 50/75/75/75/75/75.

The only issue is right now I have a small bit of fat I'd like to get rid of (lower back/abdominal region), nothing serious, probably around 10 pounds (give or take). But I'd rather bulk now on the H-Drol through PCT (so approx 10-12 wk bulk) then cut as opposed to starting with a cut beforehand, especially when the fat isn't significant. But I dunno if that will change at the end of my bulk and I have no interest in losing my gains from the H-Drol when starting a cut soon after, which is my main issue. So I'm just looking on opinions to go from here, is it a bad idea to start the bulk first? Any quick feedback would be great. Thanks.

 

[mw1]

Have any idea of your % bodyfat?
You can certainly drop a couple percent bf while still gaining 6-10 lbs on Hdrol

 

[fightclub2012]

Hey guys, new poster here. I'm 23 years old and looking to start my first PH cycle w/ H-Drol. I've got the H-Drol, PreCT and PCT supps+SERM, planning to run a 6 week cycle at 50/75/75/75/75/75.

The only issue is right now I have a small bit of fat I'd like to get rid of (lower back/abdominal region), nothing serious, probably around 10 pounds (give or take). But I'd rather bulk now on the H-Drol through PCT (so approx 10-12 wk bulk) then cut as opposed to starting with a cut beforehand, especially when the fat isn't significant. But I dunno if that will change at the end of my bulk and I have no interest in losing my gains from the H-Drol when starting a cut soon after, which is my main issue. So I'm just looking on opinions to go from here, is it a bad idea to start the bulk first? Any quick feedback would be great. Thanks.

imo loose some fat, diet has be to good going into and out of cyce(pct), Hdrol is better for cutting, but as a first ph cycle a good choice, 6 weeks at 75 is also good, but you can get your feet wet at 5 weeks at 50 or 75 depending on how things are going

 

[monstermash]

imo loose some fat, diet has be to good going into and out of cyce(pct), Hdrol is better for cutting, but as a first ph cycle a good choice, 6 weeks at 75 is also good, but you can get your feet wet at 5 weeks at 50 or 75 depending on how things are going

The bolded is good info. You also wanna be able to keep your diet as consistent as possible a few weeks after PCT. In my experience, cutting immediately after a cycle (in PCT) or after right PCT will only lead to loss of your new gains. If you keep your cals and macros a little above maintenance going into the cycle and I's say about two weeks out of PCT should give you some lean mass/fat loss for a nice Recomp (lose some fat gain, some muscle).

 

[Mabe]

Have any idea of your % bodyfat?
You can certainly drop a couple percent bf while still gaining 6-10 lbs on Hdrol

I really have no idea. Definitely enough to grab onto, safely 15%+. And yeah the possibility of dropping bodyfat % even while bulking on the H-Drol (as I've known of guys who have) is what's itching me to just jump on cycle right away, but never having done a PH before I really don't know how my body's going to react.

The bolded is good info. You also wanna be able to keep your diet as consistent as possible a few weeks after PCT. In my experience, cutting immediately after a cycle (in PCT) or after right PCT will only lead to loss of your new gains. If you keep your cals and macros a little above maintenance going into the cycle and I's say about two weeks out of PCT should give you some lean mass/fat loss for a nice Recomp (lose some fat gain, some muscle).

Appreciate the advice. So I think I'll cut for the next 4 weeks or so (I've been cutting somewhat already, although lazily, need to tighten up on the diet) and then start the cycle.

 

[monstermash]

Better safe than sorry...and I truly mean that from experience. Having more bodyfat going into a cycle can lead to more side effects, particularly from estrogen (ie gyno). Hdrol is touted as being a mild ph or a semi-dry ph but be careful. Have nolva for on cycle side effects and clomid for your PCT.

I really have no idea. Definitely enough to grab onto, safely 15%+. And yeah the possibility of dropping bodyfat % even while bulking on the H-Drol (as I've known of guys who have) is what's itching me to just jump on cycle right away, but never having done a PH before I really don't know how my body's going to react.

Definitely find some way to test this. I have friends who were working out, not paying attention to diet, thinking they were around fifteen and when they were tested were more like 21%.

Patience will save save you lots of money down the line.

Appreciate the advice. So I think I'll cut for the next 4 weeks or so (I've been cutting somewhat already, although lazily, need to tighten up on the diet) and then start the cycle.

Glad to hear it! You can post your diet in the nutrition section too. Then you'll know without question that you're doing it right.

 

[Mabe]

You'd recommend I have both Clomid and Nolva? I was just planning to use Nolva, something like 20/20/20/10 or up it to 40 if I notice sides during my cycle.

And yeah I haven't posted there yet, but I've been reading through the nutrition board trying to cop someone else's cutting (and bulking) diet.

 

[monstermash]

You'd recommend I have both Clomid and Nolva? I was just planning to use Nolva, something like 20/20/20/10 or up it to 40 if I notice sides during my cycle..

Last time I checked, if you were to use nolva on cycle to combat sides, it would be less effective during PCT. I could be wrong, it could be cause nolva is better for blocking bitch tits on cycle and clomid is superior for restoring the HPTA. Either way it's what I've been doing with my cycles.

And yeah I haven't posted there yet, but I've been reading through the nutrition board trying to cop someone else's cutting (and bulking) diet.

Just make sure you pick a diet with foods you'll have no problem getting and preparing regularly.