Is cardio&endurance really that good on (-)epi?!

alwaysfirst

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I read numerous of times about products that help with cardio&endurance but never experience the said result when I try it for myself.

Is (-)epi really that good, like will I see myself doing pr on my runs?!
 
For me it was that good. I ran Ep1c for 8 weeks, doing multiple forms of HIIT after weight training, and the only thing that could stop me was the clock, not my body.
 
alwaysfirst said:
I read numerous of times about products that help with cardio&endurance but never experience the said result when I try it for myself.

Is (-)epi really that good, like will I see myself doing pr on my runs?!
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A lot of people taking an epi product like EP1C are experiencing PRs. Reports of strength and endurance are common. For me personally, endurance is by far the greatest aspect, which makes cardio a breeze. So that alone is enough for me.
 
When I used 8 weeks of ep1c at 2 caps a day, my endurance was excellent. Definitely made cardio/high intensity weight training much much easier.
 
Yes, it is really that good. Acute effects are endurance and muscle fullness, but longer term use is when the strength and power really shine.
 
I'm starting week 3 on Magnitropin and can definitely attest to endurance. I noticed it in the first week. Has helped me immensely on my high intensity days.
 
Can it just be used for the acute effects rather than everyday? I'm looking for something to use to help conditioning rather than lifting.
 
?? why is one exclusive of the other? In any case, you are going to be better off using it daily. Keep in mind that it is actually good for you and on two separate CBC w/lipid labs I have done, there has been benefit related to lipid levels.
 
When I use Myosynergy I see increased endurance while lifting. Unsure about the cardio aspect as I use CardioTryx before intense cardio sessions anyways. I'd assume epi would be good for cardio as well.

Also like kisaj says it doesn't really make a lot of sense not to use it daily. Most users report epi gets better over time so we are probably looking at a saturation type effect.
 
DarthGainer said:
Can it just be used for the acute effects rather than everyday? I'm looking for something to use to help conditioning rather than lifting.
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I ran Follidrone awhile back for 8 weeks and saw a very nice increase in endurance, especially during metcons. I'm currently running ArA for the first time so I'm not on any epi product because I want to see how I respond to ArA solo. Once my run is over, I plan on getting back on epi and running it consistently.
 
I have to agree!! There are a few top brands with great results and reviews. Pick 1, or 1 of each and enjoy your run.
 
kisaj said:
That can't be discussed here without it ending badly.
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If something is better than something else it is what it is right?

Nobody can argue with that a BMW is better than a Saturn.

This is supposed to be a forum to get info about training, diet, supplements, not just for company reps to trick people into buying their products...
 
alwaysfirst said:
If something is better than something else it is what it is right? Nobody can argue with that a BMW is better than a Saturn. This is supposed to be a forum to get info about training, diet, supplements, not just for company reps to trick people into buying their products...
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Maybe you missed the (-)-epicatechin war of the mid-late 2014s...
 
todd muelheim said:
Maybe you missed the (-)-epicatechin war of the mid-late 2014s...
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I did! I been out of the supplement discussion for awhile and surprised that I can't get any straight answers anymore, it just feels like reps try to pimp their products instead of telling why they actually are better than the other nowadays..?
 
alwaysfirst said:
This is supposed to be a forum to get info about training, diet, supplements, not just for company reps to trick people into buying their products...
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I'm not sure where you are going with this, but "tricking" people has nothing to do with it. Passion runs high on this topic and in the end are not constructive. Of course I think Follidrone is the best, and most reps are going to likely prefer their product. (-)-epi is a wonderful supplement and people really are having great results with it. Read up reviews and check them out. In fact, I encourage you to try each one and see what you like best.
 
alwaysfirst said:
If something is better than something else it is what it is right?

Nobody can argue with that a BMW is better than a Saturn.

This is supposed to be a forum to get info about training, diet, supplements, not just for company reps to trick people into buying their products...
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But when you are comparing the same raw ingredient and trying to claim one is better than the other it is a different story. It was kind of like your analogy but in this case one company was claiming their BMW M3 was better than another companies BMW M3.
 
alwaysfirst said:
I did! I been out of the supplement discussion for awhile and surprised that I can't get any straight answers anymore, it just feels like reps try to pimp their products instead of telling why they actually are better than the other nowadays..?
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Yeah there's a lot of that but it's part of the deal for them I guess... Usually if you wade through enough threads you can figure it out. Fwiw, I'm not affiliated with any company and I have only used Follidrone and I was/am very happy with it. I'm on my 4th bottle and will be purchasing more soon.
 
todd muelheim said:
Yeah there's a lot of that but it's part of the deal for them I guess... Usually if you wade through enough threads you can figure it out. Fwiw, I'm not affiliated with any company and I have only used Follidrone and I was/am very happy with it. I'm on my 4th bottle and will be purchasing more soon.
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Cool, that's an answer I was looking for, thanks!
 
kisaj said:
I'm not sure where you are going with this, but "tricking" people has nothing to do with it. Passion runs high on this topic and in the end are not constructive. Of course I think Follidrone is the best, and most reps are going to likely prefer their product. (-)-epi is a wonderful supplement and people really are having great results with it. Read up reviews and check them out. In fact, I encourage you to try each one and see what you like best.
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I'm not trying to start a fight, just want straight answers. It would be nice with a section where "No Reps Allowed" to get a little more honest reviews.

I'm leaning towards Follodrone like you suggested because I heard most about that one, I just hope it's because it's actually one of the better once, not the most "pimped" one...
 
alwaysfirst said:
I'm not trying to start a fight, just want straight answers. It would be nice with a section where "No Reps Allowed" to get a little more honest reviews.

I'm leaning towards Follodrone like you suggested because I heard most about that one, I just hope it's because it's actually one of the better once, not the most "pimped" one...
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Did you not read my response? No matter what product you buy you are getting -Epi. LOLOLOL. Reps opinions are irrelevant.
 
I tried a few of the -Epi products and the Follidrone was the best in my opinion, although they all work. I experienced a significant endurance increase with weights and cardio.
 
Epi is interesting but still way to pricey.
 
i just got some ep1c today. its been a while since i have used epi-(-) last one was Myo / 1 bottle of Magnitropin. and previously before that follidrone which was pretty good. excited to see how it goes on its own. im hoping my endurance goes back to what is was only follidrone / when i double dosed Myo when it first came out. also will be paying attention to my strength specifically also.
 
Follifrone is legit. I'd buy in bulk once I see it go on sale. I can run it anytime and I can feel the difference when I'm on it. One of the products worth trying even though the price point is high. Then if you have the luxury try other brands and see if you feel any differences
 
BRUstrong said:
I ran Follidrone awhile back for 8 weeks and saw a very nice increase in endurance, especially during metcons. I'm currently running ArA for the first time so I'm not on any epi product because I want to see how I respond to ArA solo. Once my run is over, I plan on getting back on epi and running it consistently.
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I think thats a great way of thinking because you can pick of on changes and not wonder what product it was.
 
kisaj said:
?? why is one exclusive of the other? In any case, you are going to be better off using it daily. Keep in mind that it is actually good for you and on two separate CBC w/lipid labs I have done, there has been benefit related to lipid levels.
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I'm running prop and ment pre lifting at the moment and thought maybe the Epi would be overshadowed, Was looking for something more acute like Nitrates for endurance. Still might give it a shot though.
 
DarthGainer said:
I'm running prop and ment pre lifting at the moment and thought maybe the Epi would be overshadowed, Was looking for something more acute like Nitrates for endurance. Still might give it a shot though.
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You would benefit from the acute endurance benefits as well as the other aspects. But, by all means, give nitrates a shot as well- they are great.

I'm on TRT and love Folli especially during my blasts.
 
Is it just mere coincidence all epi products have the same price, at least on the TGB supplement? :squint:
 
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