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^ excited to see the results but haven't actually read if anyone lathering up yet. Am I missing something? Is it not shipping yet?
With these transdermal products do we still need to run liver support or cycle assist? I've been a bit unclear on that. Also, can cycles be extended as they aren't oral? Should all transdermals be applied at different times of the day or one after another?Trest transdermally and Tren transdermally through early feedback seem to be real winners. Even transdermal laxogenin is taking off.
I'm running DermaTrest as a base for 14 weeks so I guess we'll find out together if they can be run for an extended amount of time haha. Check out my log!With these transdermal products do we still need to run liver support or cycle assist? I've been a bit unclear on that. Also, can cycles be extended as they aren't oral? Should all transdermals be applied at different times of the day or one after another?
Either this upcoming Sunday or the Sunday after, I really haven't decided yet.^this is exactly what I'm looking for I was wondering how 10+ woks will go. When are you starting?
I'll keep future questions to your logEither this upcoming Sunday or the Sunday after, I really haven't decided yet.
as a base for what?14weeks of sd?I'm running DermaTrest as a base for 14 weeks so I guess we'll find out together if they can be run for an extended amount of time haha. Check out my log!
You do not really NEED a liver support but definitely still need solid support products to address BP, lipids and estrogen. As for a solid all in one support supp I suggest AR1MICARE PRO to control other sides and it has some TUDCA in there anyway so it will cover your needs, the TUDCA also helps maintain a better lipid profile so it would still be relevant to your oncycle support.With these transdermal products do we still need to run liver support or cycle assist? I've been a bit unclear on that. Also, can cycles be extended as they aren't oral? Should all transdermals be applied at different times of the day or one after another?
D1METHADROL may be a better option since Mithras is Td as well? You may want to use TransFORM as your second td insteadExcited to hear more about this. Planning my next cycle. Thinking about running a trest product with mithras.....maybe throw in some triumphalis.
Just get an oral syringe and pull the top off. Measure things exactly.Been on two half pumps a day with Osta at 15 for the first week. I'm up 2 lbs and leaning. But the biggest notice is, my d**k won't go down after something moves it!! It's insane. I'll be running this for 4-6 weeks then cruising to a SD run at 10/20/20 with PCT to follow. The only complaint so far is the container. Half a pump is a dose but a full pump is two and to lock the container you'd have to pump a full dose for a day? WTF. Might not be a problem for most but I travel 4 days a week and need it secured.
Good advice. I'd be surprised if Trest caused BP issues. When I ran 25mg IM daily, it didn't cause BP issues.You do not really NEED a liver support but definitely still need solid support products to address BP, lipids and estrogen. As for a solid all in one support supp I suggest AR1MICARE PRO to control other sides and it has some TUDCA in there anyway so it will cover your needs, the TUDCA also helps maintain a better lipid profile so it would still be relevant to your oncycle support.
Give me your address and I will send you a bottle. I understand that publicly posting your labs may not be enough but there are plenty of logs backing the entirety of our line. Dermatrest was one of those items we were unable to select reputable loggers for, meaning bottles were sent but no logs were set up here. The only people who slander us tend to be our competitors and the people who believe everything our competitors say and go on repeating it. Competition is good, in the end it will only benefit the user giving them more value. I believe competitors should be more in tune with the DS act then with us since we're both in the same boat there. As you can see i try to dedicate a lot of time and energy on here because in the end I care a lot about consumer feedback and being involved both behind the scene and on the forums.Wish I saw more "regular" names from the board using this stuff.
I couldnt care less about any drama between Celtic and Olympus but I have read Olympus is not "legit".
Don't flame me for just expressing my opinion.
Olympus' is WAY cheaper so I'd rather get it from them but when you read lots of random internet gossip (as gay as that sounds) from people you are used to seeing it at least makes you think twice LOL
I have no dog in this fight and couldn't care less about retarded "loyalty" LOL
I'm ONLY a consumer and I just want a product that willl actually work and have in it what it claims to be and for the best price I can find.
that's very generous. ^Give me your address and I will send you a bottle. I understand that publicly posting your labs may not be enough but there are plenty of logs backing the entirety of our line. Dermatrest was one of those items we were unable to select reputable loggers for, meaning bottles were sent but no logs were set up here. The only people who slander us tend to be our competitors and the people who believe everything our competitors say and go on repeating it. Competition is good, in the end it will only benefit the user giving them more value. I believe competitors should be more in tune with the DS act then with us since we're both in the same boat there. As you can see i try to dedicate a lot of time and energy on here because in the end I care a lot about consumer feedback and being involved both behind the scene and on the forums.
What exactly is the issue here? We and a competitor tested our trest and it came up as pure, now you want to test it 'just to make sure'?I work at a cGMP pharma manufacturing site as a project engineer. Anyway, someone in the R&D lab said I could use their GCMS (which I thought there would be a .1% chance they said yes to me testing for my own stuff).
However, if it does come up as trest, and they try and figure out what the GCMS is telling them (I guess it's not as easy as spitting out the nomenclature), not sure how I'd feel about them knowing I have trest on hand.... otherwise I'd totally take you up on your offer and pay for the bottle if it came up as 98% or whatever you claim it to be
I don't really care, I bought your ep1c and ost, but I think having a forum member use their GCMS from work would put any concerns to rest, especially if I bought it from a retailer... just making a point as far as quality controlWhat exactly is the issue here? We and a competitor tested our trest and it came up as pure, now you want to test it 'just to make sure'?
I wish I could of gone for the hormonal td line up. Formestane is as anabolic as I'll risk. Don't want the misses to get a deeper voice than me.Give me your address and I will send you a bottle. I understand that publicly posting your labs may not be enough but there are plenty of logs backing the entirety of our line. Dermatrest was one of those items we were unable to select reputable loggers for, meaning bottles were sent but no logs were set up here. The only people who slander us tend to be our competitors and the people who believe everything our competitors say and go on repeating it. Competition is good, in the end it will only benefit the user giving them more value. I believe competitors should be more in tune with the DS act then with us since we're both in the same boat there. As you can see i try to dedicate a lot of time and energy on here because in the end I care a lot about consumer feedback and being involved both behind the scene and on the forums.
I don't mess with TD stuff when the IM stuff is also available.What kinda results did you guys get off this at how many weeks? I like the idea behind the transdermals and am considering running it solo???
What kinda sides are we looking at with this stuff?[/QUOTE]I can tell u that Trest and Desoxy both are great tools for either cutting or bulking. Just get a tight diet together and show some consistency and you'll be impressed with either.
That would be great to get some independent test results! Since OL stands behind their claim, they should be in FULL support of you doing this..as it would silence any nay sayers.I work at a cGMP pharma manufacturing site as a project engineer. Anyway, someone in the R&D lab said I could use their GCMS (which I thought there would be a .1% chance they said yes to me testing for my own stuff).
Lol I would have definitely taken this offerWhat exactly is the issue here? We and a competitor tested our trest and it came up as pure, now you want to test it 'just to make sure'?