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Is an Otc ok for havoc?

Kidcudi

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Im trying to run a 6 week cycle of havoc. Ive read stuff saying that an otc pct such as pct xtreme or revolution pct is good enough to keep your gains and get your test/ estrogen levels back to normal since havoc is a generally mild ph. Is this true? If not, would it be ok for a 4 week cycle?
 
Mild gains/sides does not mean you won't be fully shutdown by the administration of an exogenous hormone to your body which occurs in as little as 1 week depending on the compound.
 
Ain't nothing mild about havoc or any other legit epi product. You def need more than otc pct.
 
There is no try...there is only do, and do not...Jk. But seriously you do need a SERM, I just started my 6 week havoc cycle on Thursday and have clomid and nolva on hand.
 
ive done 4 weeks without a serm and wont ever again. idk y ppl dont just use one its cheaper than all the otc stuff anyway.
 
Eric160 said:
ive done 4 weeks without a serm and wont ever again. idk y ppl dont just use one its cheaper than all the otc stuff anyway.
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Possible legal ramifications involved in searching for a legit source?
 
Go Away said:
Possible legal ramifications involved in searching for a legit source?
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nope just an idiot hahaha i gues it could have been worse if i ran a stronger compound. but no serms and ai are super easy to get. im not allowed to give out souces but heres a hint look up
 
Eric160 said:
nope just an idiot hahaha i gues it could have been worse if i ran a stronger compound. but no serms and ai are super easy to get. im not allowed to give out souces but heres a hint look up
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Haha nice hint
 
Kidcudi said:
Im trying to run a 6 week cycle of havoc. Ive read stuff saying that an otc pct such as pct xtreme or revolution pct is good enough to keep your gains and get your test/ estrogen levels back to normal since havoc is a generally mild ph. Is this true? If not, would it be ok for a 4 week cycle?
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You might be okay if only using for four weeks at a moderate dose (30mg).

You would want to invest in:

Erase Pro
DAA
Endosurge

Of course, this is only if some legal obligations or something prevents you from obtaining a SERM. In most clinical research the HPTA spontaneously corrects itself as it is, PCT just expedites the process.

I feel if you were going to have permanently lowered testosterone from AAS use, its going to happen SERM or no SERM.
 
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