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Is an Otc ok for havoc?

Kidcudi

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Im trying to run a 6 week cycle of havoc. Ive read stuff saying that an otc pct such as pct xtreme or revolution pct is good enough to keep your gains and get your test/ estrogen levels back to normal since havoc is a generally mild ph. Is this true? If not, would it be ok for a 4 week cycle?
 
Mild gains/sides does not mean you won't be fully shutdown by the administration of an exogenous hormone to your body which occurs in as little as 1 week depending on the compound.
 
There is no try...there is only do, and do not...Jk. But seriously you do need a SERM, I just started my 6 week havoc cycle on Thursday and have clomid and nolva on hand.
 
ive done 4 weeks without a serm and wont ever again. idk y ppl dont just use one its cheaper than all the otc stuff anyway.
 
Eric160 said:
ive done 4 weeks without a serm and wont ever again. idk y ppl dont just use one its cheaper than all the otc stuff anyway.

Possible legal ramifications involved in searching for a legit source?
 
Possible legal ramifications involved in searching for a legit source?
nope just an idiot hahaha i gues it could have been worse if i ran a stronger compound. but no serms and ai are super easy to get. im not allowed to give out souces but heres a hint look up
 
Eric160 said:
nope just an idiot hahaha i gues it could have been worse if i ran a stronger compound. but no serms and ai are super easy to get. im not allowed to give out souces but heres a hint look up

Haha nice hint
 
Im trying to run a 6 week cycle of havoc. Ive read stuff saying that an otc pct such as pct xtreme or revolution pct is good enough to keep your gains and get your test/ estrogen levels back to normal since havoc is a generally mild ph. Is this true? If not, would it be ok for a 4 week cycle?

You might be okay if only using for four weeks at a moderate dose (30mg).

You would want to invest in:

Erase Pro
DAA
Endosurge

Of course, this is only if some legal obligations or something prevents you from obtaining a SERM. In most clinical research the HPTA spontaneously corrects itself as it is, PCT just expedites the process.

I feel if you were going to have permanently lowered testosterone from AAS use, its going to happen SERM or no SERM.
 
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