Dat Benzoflavone, mmmm good stuff
Been working with Rob to assure a steady supply of Virtus and Invictus fer you fellas, as well.
Been working with Rob to assure a steady supply of Virtus and Invictus fer you fellas, as well.
Thanks for the reply. I'll take a look at the other thread as soon as I get a chance (I'm familiar with some research on B-AET from Pubmed).http://anabolicminds.com/forum/iron-legion/284346-invictus-b-aet.html
Some studies showing a number of benefits ^
Good luck man, hope everything gets sorted out for you.Thanks for the reply. I'll take a look at the other thread as soon as I get a chance (I'm familiar with some research on B-AET from Pubmed).
The reason I ask these questions is that B-AET may be FAR more important to me than most users. I recently tested with a 24 hr. total cortisol level of 75 (reference range has top at 45--can't remember off the top of my head the unit of measurement). So, the next standard medical step would be to determine if the very high cortisol levels are the result of a benign tumor (most likely on the pituitary), some genetic familial condition,and/or lifestyle choices.
My goal is to minimize my involvement in the medical community. I would likely never take the surgery option for a number of reasons. Thus, pharmaceutical management of symptoms would be the only other option. Unfortunately, the drugs available for this have pretty bad potential side-effects: not interested.
So, I'm using B-AET (as well as Pharmagaba and Ashwagandha, in combination with lifestyle changes) in the hopes that together they can bring my cortisol levels back down within range.
I will be getting new blood work within the next couple months. I'll let you know what results I get.
P.S., The high cortisol has wrecked my immune system, so I'm looking forward to the immune boosting benefits of B-AET!
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yes indeed, good luck....I am very interested in your results, really hope they turn out well.Thanks for the reply. I'll take a look at the other thread as soon as I get a chance (I'm familiar with some research on B-AET from Pubmed).
The reason I ask these questions is that B-AET may be FAR more important to me than most users. I recently tested with a 24 hr. total cortisol level of 75 (reference range has top at 45--can't remember off the top of my head the unit of measurement). So, the next standard medical step would be to determine if the very high cortisol levels are the result of a benign tumor (most likely on the pituitary), some genetic familial condition,and/or lifestyle choices.
My goal is to minimize my involvement in the medical community. I would likely never take the surgery option for a number of reasons. Thus, pharmaceutical management of symptoms would be the only other option. Unfortunately, the drugs available for this have pretty bad potential side-effects: not interested.
So, I'm using B-AET (as well as Pharmagaba and Ashwagandha, in combination with lifestyle changes) in the hopes that together they can bring my cortisol levels back down within range.
I will be getting new blood work within the next couple months. I'll let you know what results I get.
P.S., The high cortisol has wrecked my immune system, so I'm looking forward to the immune boosting benefits of B-AET!
Crowbar
Hi buddy yes just leans gains. Yeah i agree it may crush Cortisol too much. Thoughts on just the XI-KT/Dermacrine stack??I would be cautious stacking invidious with XI-KT, because both modulate cortisol response. Invuxtus systemically and XI-KT through expression in target tissue.
What are your goals for the stack, just lean gains?
great stack, I've done it!!!Hi buddy yes just leans gains. Yeah i agree it may crush Cortisol too much. Thoughts on just the XI-KT/Dermacrine stack??
AMEN, BROTHER!!!Ran Virtus/invictus/vii-kt for about 3 months last year. Leaned out like a mofo, has to be one of,if not, the best recomp/lean gains stacks around.
Thanks mate am gonna go for it with the XI-KT and Dermacrine. Yes I ran the VII KT/Invictus stack in Sep/Oct and it was really really impressive. Hopefully the XI-KT stack will help with a lean mass/recomp.great stack, I've done it!!!
btw-if wanting to stack something with Invictus try vii-kt, really great stack for leaning out!!!
I worked my way up to 1ml twice a day on the xi-kt and always run dermacrine at 4 pumps early morning. i'm right at 190lb.Thanks mate am gonna go for it with the XI-KT and Dermacrine. Yes I ran the VII KT/Invictus stack in Sep/Oct and it was really really impressive. Hopefully the XI-KT stack will help with a lean mass/recomp.
Quick one what dosages would you recommend for the XI-KT/Dermacrine stack being around 170lbs?
Thanks for the feed back, I'll try working my way up to 2ml a day then over 6 weeks and will use 3 pumps a day of Dermacrine and will purchase some sustain alpha for pct. I'm excited and curious to see how this stack performs and if its even 50% as good as my VII-KT / Invictus experience i will be happy.I worked my way up to 1ml twice a day on the xi-kt and always run dermacrine at 4 pumps early morning. i'm right at 190lb.
I had 2 bottles of xii-kt and by starting out lower made it last for 6 weeks which is optimal, imo.
vii-kt / Invictus is a great fatburning stack...but with xi-kt you have a shot at a legit recomp-burning fat and gaining muscle, this will be diet dependent, of course.Thanks for the feed back, I'll try working my way up to 2ml a day then over 6 weeks and will use 3 pumps a day of Dermacrine and will purchase some sustain alpha for pct. I'm excited and curious to see how this stack performs and if its even 50% as good as my VII-KT / Invictus experience i will be happy.
I would take a break and save Invictus/vii-kt as part of pct. test is anti-cort also so taking a break and saving Invictus/vii-kt might help prevent cortisone skyrocketing after your cycle....i'm on trt for last 10 years and don't need pct even though I usually use otc products after a cycle, but many guys have said Invictus is a very good add on for pct...actually a anti-cort product has been recommended as part of pct for as long as I've been a member here at AM.Will be coming off 11-kt in a week or so and continue running low doses of test/primo do you think there would be a benefit to running invictus alongs side test/primo and if so would it be better to have a break for a while after 11-kt before jumping on invictus?
Maybe even vii-kt/invictus
I’m always on but think I will give it a break anyway between 11kt and invictus. Might try stock up now though. Thanks for the reply man.I would take a break and save Invictus/vii-kt as part of pct. test is anti-cort also so taking a break and saving Invictus/vii-kt might help prevent cortisone skyrocketing after your cycle....i'm on trt for last 10 years and don't need pct even though I usually use otc products after a cycle, but many guys have said Invictus is a very good add on for pct...actually a anti-cort product has been recommended as part of pct for as long as I've been a member here at AM.
now is a good time to stock up-for sure!!!I’m always on but think I will give it a break anyway between 11kt and invictus. Might try stock up now though. Thanks for the reply man.
wesb2387May I ask how you dosed the three? I am about to start the same stack while also taking sustain alpha and iconogenin b4 bed.
Dang my bad, didn’t see this. I did .5ml invictus/virtus and 1ml vii-kt twice daily. For application sites I did .5ml invictus left side of chest/.5ml virtus right side/ and the vii-kt I did .5ml per forearm and rubbed in the excess with my forearms.May I ask how you dosed the three? I am about to start the same stack while also taking sustain alpha and iconogenin b4 bed.
Couldn’t agree more and I think it’s something allot of people over look. For me I get a night and day difference and can tell when I seem to have nailed the right dosage for any product the lowers cortisol enough. For me it was running 200mg test and a low dose of 11-kt, 100mg or under. looking forward to running invictusBy the way, people should not underestimate the potential of Invictus to have significant anabolic effects, indirectly. The testosterone-to-cortisol ratio is one of the most important anabolic ratios in the body. If cortisol is excessively elevated you're gonna get impared insulin sensitivity, poor nutrient partitioning, decreased testosterone production/activity, etc. The better your testosterone-to-cortisol ratio is, the easier time you'll have at building muscle and getting/staying lean.
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Really glad things are improving for you! Please keep us posted on how you're doing :thumbsup:After a week of use I'm definitely getting serious relief!
1) A "flu" which had moved to my lungs, and which I just could not shake, has finally cleared up. After a couple days use I began to cough up lots of infected phlegm, indicating that my immune system was "coming back on line"!
2) I seem to be sleeping deeper, more soundly for longer
3) General improvement in mood/motivation
4) the stiff aches and pains (NOT DOMS, which is very hard for me to experience at this point in my training unless I use advanced methods) that were a constant part of my life--and which indicated excessive inflammation from training and other stress--is now largely gone. I use the analogy of the Tin man in the Wizard of Oz; I feel like I just got oiled!
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I'm on the same boat as you. I have been going to the gym every morning for the past 7-8 years but lately I just can't seem to be bothered to get up and go... Thankfully I still go road cycling 20+Km on Saturday.just got two bottles of virtus two bottles of invictus and 3 bottles of the 7keto
how should i run it.
work. has. been. killing me. stressed and overworked.... have been missing the gym due to being exhausted hoping this can get me right
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