Introducing SUP3R-11 - The Ultimate 11-Ketotestosterone Guide - All you need to know!

Hmm might use this as a bridge into a hardcore bulking cycle.... Start off lean then blow up
 
BamBam0319 said:
Hmm might use this as a bridge into a hardcore bulking cycle.... Start off lean then blow up
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You definitely could, 11-KT is versatile, it would suit the purpose perfectly. Though you could run it during a bulk to help keep the gains lean due to lower cortisol as well.
 
Hastur said:
You definitely could, 11-KT is versatile, it would suit the purpose perfectly. Though you could run it during a bulk to help keep the gains lean due to lower cortisol as well.
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This is true! Although I was considering using tren ace somewhere in there, which also crushes cortisol.
 
I'm thinking of OL Tr3n + DMZ + Tr3st + 11-KT bc I have idea what else to do with my stock pile.
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BamBam0319 said:
This is true! Although I was considering using tren ace somewhere in there, which also crushes cortisol.
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Haha, well intramuscular Trenbolone Acetate pretty much crushes everything else, it would overshadow 11-KT significantly, so if that's the case definitely stick with using it during a bridge.
 
Woody said:
I'm thinking of OL Tr3n + DMZ + Tr3st + 11-KT bc I have idea what else to do with my stock pile.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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That would be a killer stack! If you really do run it, you better have some Caber on hand, bro! Haha. And Exemestane!

hamdysayed said:
gains smell good to me... not sure about my wife and daughter tho
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Well, as with other androgenic transdermals, we highly recommend avoid exposing women and children to it. Just have to throw that out there!
 
Hastur said:
That would be a killer stack! If you really do run it, you better have some Caber on hand, bro! Haha. And Exemestane!
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I have both. Running Trest now with 12.5 Exemestane. Haven't had any reason for caber/Prami yet. Haven't ran Tren before though
 
Hastur said:
That would be a killer stack! If you really do run it, you better have some Caber on hand, bro! Haha. And Exemestane!



Well, as with other androgenic transdermals, we highly recommend avoid exposing women and children to it. Just have to throw that out there!
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Oh snap....
what would u recommend I mean I can take it on my way to work but how about when I'm off?
like what's the time frame before contacting females and children?
 
Hastur said:
Haha, well intramuscular Trenbolone Acetate pretty much crushes everything else, it would overshadow 11-KT significantly, so if that's the case definitely stick with using it during a bridge.
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Lol exactly!
 
Woody said:
I have both. Running Trest now with 12.5 Exemestane. Haven't had any reason for caber/Prami yet. Haven't ran Tren before though
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Good to hear! Just had to mention it since people rarely stack two 19-nors like Trest and Tren due to elevated prolactin and much higher risk of gyno. Personally I'd run one at a time, just for the sake of safety. Gyno is something I don't want to risk!

hamdysayed said:
Oh snap....
what would u recommend I mean I can take it on my way to work but how about when I'm off?
like what's the time frame before contacting females and children?
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Really you just have to consider avoiding rubbing it off on them, so applying to a location like your torso is fine if you keep a T-shirt on and don't sweat profusely. But having it on your arms and then hugging your wife or child I would avoid. The risk isn't huge, but its a common recommendation when using androgenic transdermals to avoid contact with women and children, and I just felt that advice was worth repeating!
 
Woody said:
I'm thinking of OL Tr3n + DMZ + Tr3st + 11-KT bc I have idea what else to do with my stock pile.
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I can take that Tr3n off your hands :afro:
 
Suggesting 250 for a beginner cycle seems awfully high.

I enjoyed ~100mg/day through two bottles of IL 11-KT and did an OTC PCT with no issues. I would suggest doing 100-125mg/day for a beginner just starting out so they don't run into suppressive issues with the higher dose.
 
Daycrawler said:
Suggesting 250 for a beginner cycle seems awfully high.

I enjoyed ~100mg/day through two bottles of IL 11-KT and did an OTC PCT with no issues. I would suggest doing 100-125mg/day for a beginner just starting out so they don't run into suppressive issues with the higher dose.
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It actually has been a very common dosage for 11-KT over the years, ever since it was first brought to market. Many people would regard 100mg/day as being very low. But I'm glad you saw the results you wanted with such a dosage though, and that OTC PCT was enough and you encountered no issues! As I started earlier, 11-KT is an androgenic compound, it binds to the androgen receptor in the hypothalamus as all AAS/DS/PH/SARMs do, so it's going to be suppressive to some degree. Yes, the severity of the suppression is dose related, but so is the effectiveness of the compound. If an individual is afraid of HPTA suppression, it is best they seek natural products to meet their needs over hormonal products.
 
Hastur said:
Alright, well since you are running the EpiAndro at 500mg the entire 2 months, it makes more sense to end the 2 month cycle with 1 month of 11-KT, and not at the beginning. Usually cycles build in strength until they end, not weaken. For best results, that is. I'd still recommend 125mg 11-KT with 500mg EpiAndro the entire length of the 2 month cycle, I think you'd see more synergy and better results overall.

Example 60 Day Cycle:

Sup3r-Epi ---- 500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500
Sup3r-11 ----- 125/125/125/125/125/125/125/125
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I am looking to run exactly the same protocol. Have some newb questions :)

Do you think Arimicare Pro is a good idea during that cycle? If yes, I got 1 bottle..enough? maybe half a serving per day or full serving for the last 4 weeks?
For the 4 weeks PCT, along with Super PCT what dosage of Clomid do you recommand to be safe?
I suppose Exemestane is not needed? I have some though just in case..
thanks
 
Daycrawler said:
Suggesting 250 for a beginner cycle seems awfully high.

I enjoyed ~100mg/day through two bottles of IL 11-KT and did an OTC PCT with no issues
. I would suggest doing 100-125mg/day for a beginner just starting out so they don't run into suppressive issues with the higher dose.
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We know who you support. And the carrier and product is quality. But it is simply not cost effective. And it is rather foolish to mention that product in this thread.
 
My wallet is ready... Im almost done with my Icon-11 and hoping this comes out within the next week so I can get another bottle.. 11-KT has long been one of my favorite compounds

My body is ready :)
 
hammel said:
I am looking to run exactly the same protocol. Have some newb questions :)

Do you think Arimicare Pro is a good idea during that cycle? If yes, I got 1 bottle..enough? maybe half a serving per day or full serving for the last 4 weeks?
For the 4 weeks PCT, along with Super PCT what dosage of Clomid do you recommand to be safe?
I suppose Exemestane is not needed? I have some though just in case..
thanks
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All questions are welcome here, buddy! Considering how mild such a cycle would be, I see nothing wrong with using a half dosage of Ar1macare Pro for 60 days. And 4 weeks of SUP3R PCT with a low dosage of Clomid should get the job done just fine! I tip my hat to you for having Exemestane on hand just in case, its one of my most common recommendations, yet very few people follow it!

~Example 60 Day Cycle:
Sup3r-Epi ------------ 500/500/500/500/500/500/500/500
Sup3r-11 ------------- 125/125/125/125/125/125/125/125
Ar1macare Pro ----- 4/4/4/4/4/4/4/4

~Example 30 Day PCT:
SUP3R PCT --- 10/10/10/10
Clomid ----------- 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5

You should be good to go, brother! Any further questions, by all means, please ask! :)

Geoforce said:
How did I miss this? In for details and leaning out!
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Welcome, bro! If it's details you're looking for, this is the place to be. ;)

ECUKingbuddy said:
My wallet is ready... Im almost done with my Icon-11 and hoping this comes out within the next week so I can get another bottle.. 11-KT has long been one of my favorite compounds

My body is ready :)
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I think we should be able to hook you up reasonably soon, the launch is getting closer and closer!
 
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Super epi at 500 is to low. Start week one at that dosage. The suppose sedds doesn't do anything to enhance absorption.

750-1000 is good
 
halfhuman said:
Super epi at 500 is to low. Start week one at that dosage. The suppose sedds doesn't do anything to enhance absorption.

750-1000 is good
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Some users prefer lower dosages, not everyone responds the same as we are all unique, some people are more sensitive to certain compounds, others can be non-responders. We saw this with Epistane in the past. And keep in mind, we all have different goals as well. SUP3R-EPI at 500mg a day is sufficient to mitigate lethargy by functioning similar to a Test base, as well as give added benefits of increased strength and muscle hardness, and decreased water retention. Are higher dosages better? Depends on the person, how well they respond to it, and what their goals are.

As for your comment regarding SEDDS not doing anything to enhance absorption, I respectfully disagree.

"Self-emulsifying drug delivery systems (SEDDS) possess unparalleled potential in improving oral bioavailability of poorly water-soluble drugs. Following their oral administration, these systems rapidly disperse in gastrointestinal fluids, yielding micro- or nanoemulsions containing the solubilized drug. Owing to its miniscule globule size, the micro/nanoemulsifed drug can easily be absorbed through lymphatic pathways, bypassing the hepatic first-pass effect." [1]
[1] Singh B, Bandopadhyay S, Kapil R, Singh R, Katare O. Self-emulsifying drug delivery systems (SEDDS): formulation development, characterization, and applications. Crit Rev Ther Drug Carrier Syst. 2009;26(5):427-521. (PMID: 20136631)
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"At present, there are four drug products, Sandimmune and Sandimmun Neoral (cyclosporin A), Norvir (ritonavir), and Fortovase (saquinavir) on the pharmaceutical market, the active compounds of which have been formulated into specific SEDDS. Significant improvement in the oral bioavailability of these drug compounds has been demonstrated for each case. The fact that almost 40% of the new drug compounds are hydrophobic in nature implies that studies with SEDDS will continue, and more drug compounds formulated as SEDDS will reach the pharmaceutical market in the future." [2]
[2] Gursoy RN, Benita S. Self-emulsifying drug delivery systems (SEDDS) for improved oral delivery of lipophilic drugs. Biomed Pharmacother. 2004 Apr;58(3):173-82. (PMID: 15082340)
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Considering it's being used by the pharmaceutical industry to improve oral bioavailability significantly, I'd say SEDDS does in fact enhance absorption. And we have many positive anecdotal reports comes in regarding SUP3R-EPI, SUP3R-1 and SUP3R-4. All of which utilize SEDDS.
 
I CANNOT BELIEVE.....that I missed this thread!!

Every issue I pointed out when I used XI-KT has been addressed with this product. XI-KT was 85 mg/ml but I felt there needed to be more carrier overall to transport the compound, and more compound in a bottle.

This product has 62.5 mg/ml (addressing the carrier issue), and provides 3X the dose of 11-KT in a day at 2 servings. I'm in for like...12 bottles...if I can afford it. I may do a run at 375 mg/day even for a couple weeks (and then I will want to push to 500)
 
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3pic_B3ast said:
We know who you support. And the carrier and product is quality. But it is simply not cost effective. And it is rather foolish to mention that product in this thread.
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Is this a joke? Cause I have a couple OL products in my cabinet so please tell me again who I support.

IL doesn't even produce 11kt anymore so they're not even a competitor for the product.

As far as cost effectiveness, when it was being produced and sold there was no one else on the market selling it, except maybe PA sold it if I remember correctly.

Pretty foolish to jump to accusations when considering the timeframe of when I used the product. Feel free to check my post history and see I was interested in OL producing this back from GNO first mentioned it.

So please, go ahead and tell me whom I support.

Hastur said:
It actually has been a very common dosage for 11-KT over the years, ever since it was first brought to market. Many people would regard 100mg/day as being very low. But I'm glad you saw the results you wanted with such a dosage though, and that OTC PCT was enough and you encountered no issues! As I started earlier, 11-KT is an androgenic compound, it binds to the androgen receptor in the hypothalamus as all AAS/DS/PH/SARMs do, so it's going to be suppressive to some degree. Yes, the severity of the suppression is dose related, but so is the effectiveness of the compound. If an individual is afraid of HPTA suppression, it is best they seek natural products to meet their needs over hormonal products.
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I'd run it at 100mg/day again, it's suppressive to some degree but I do think it's worth mentioning that at least for my results that you can run 11kt at that dose and still have a benefit with minimal to no sides.
 
HIT4ME said:
I CANNOT BELIEVE.....that I missed this thread!!

Every issue I pointed out when I used XI-KT has been addressed with this product. XI-KT was 85 mg/ml but I felt there needed to be more carrier overall to transport the compound, and more compound in a bottle.

This product has 62.5 mg/ml (addressing the carrier issue), and provides 3X the dose of 11-KT in a day at 2 servings. I'm in for like...12 bottles...if I can afford it. I may do a run at 375 mg/day even for a couple weeks (and then I will want to push to 500)
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I'm digging the enthusiasm, bro! I think you'll enjoy SUP3R-11 quite a bit, so far everyone who has stated using it in the past seems to be excited for it!

Daycrawler said:
Is this a joke? Cause I have a couple OL products in my cabinet so please tell me again who I support.

IL doesn't even produce 11kt anymore so they're not even a competitor for the product.

As far as cost effectiveness, when it was being produced and sold there was no one else on the market selling it, except maybe PA sold it if I remember correctly.

Pretty foolish to jump to accusations when considering the timeframe of when I used the product. Feel free to check my post history and see I was interested in OL producing this back from GNO first mentioned it.

So please, go ahead and tell me whom I support.



I'd run it at 100mg/day again, it's suppressive to some degree but I do think it's worth mentioning that at least for my results that you can run 11kt at that dose and still have a benefit with minimal to no sides.
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Daycrawler, I know you were not addressing myself, but I'd like to respond to your first statement anyways. We appreciate any support you give Olympus, regardless of affiliation. I personally do not engage in any sort of hostility directed towards other supplement companies, or supplement company reps. So with that being said, all conversations and comments are welcome here.

Now, as for your second comment, I'm sure we will see a fair amount of people dosing SUP3R-11 at 125mg/day, close to the dosage you previous ran. It is good to hear that at that low of a dosage you saw benefits with minimal to no sides! I think people will find your anecdotal report quite helpful!
 
Hastur said:
I'm digging the enthusiasm, bro! I think you'll enjoy SUP3R-11 quite a bit, so far everyone who has stated using it in the past seems to be excited for it!
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Give us one of those 50% off intro deals and I will max out a credit card, haha.
 
When does this happen?
 
HIT4ME said:
I CANNOT BELIEVE.....that I missed this thread!!

Every issue I pointed out when I used XI-KT has been addressed with this product. XI-KT was 85 mg/ml but I felt there needed to be more carrier overall to transport the compound, and more compound in a bottle.

This product has 62.5 mg/ml (addressing the carrier issue), and provides 3X the dose of 11-KT in a day at 2 servings. I'm in for like...12 bottles...if I can afford it. I may do a run at 375 mg/day even for a couple weeks (and then I will want to push to 500)
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yeah boy :usa::usa:
 
hamdysayed said:
doubt it bro they didn't doit with andros.
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Lettuce be real - For this product, considering the amount in one bottle, I would pay full price lol.

With that being said the insider will be very enticing such that I can see many stocking up.
 
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