Intimidate

Well said mike, not to hijack but my experience with waxy maize is the exact same.
 
BPjohn123 said:
Well said mike, not to hijack but my experience with waxy maize is the exact same.
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I totally understand where you guys are coming from.....however, my issue with this thread was that it was evident early on that the logger was seemingly biased towards IForce, and it was even questioned about whether or not he had the product in the first place. It was also clear early on, that his "experience" was going to be a negative one.

With that said, it is more than reasonable that intimidate could work for some and not others. That happens for all types of supps. For me, its mono. Does nothing but upset my stomach and make me sweat like a stuffed pig.
 
criticalbench said:
Sorry to hear about your experience bro. I personally do not know your history with bashing I-Force, nor do I care. I only care about the present moment. I understand your frustration, buying a supplement and having it not work is one thing, but having it cause a negative effect is another. Unfortunately, in the supplement industry like you know, not everything works for everyone. Take me for example, waxy maize is suppose to be very light on the stomach and cause very little GI issues whereas dextrose is heavy and bloats. It's the whole opposite for me, I went and bought 10+ pounds of waxy maize to find out not that it didn't work, but it did the exact opposite of all claims; just like you. A lot of our logs have been great on intimidate, but I don't doubt that there will be people who don't like it.

On a side note, Protodrol I loved, although I find personally, reversitol v.2 to be far superior to the 1st version. Again, sorry about your intimidate experience. Some will love it, some will hate it, that is just how the game works, and unfortunately you were one of the few unlucky ones. Hoping for the best for your blood work, not because of what heart help does, just want fellow lifters to be healthy.

Best of luck man, and I am glad you are feeling better. Let me know if you ever need anything.

Mike
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Thanks Mike. Appreciate that.
 
i can say that my first 6 days of taking it i did have a sluggish feeling in the AM as well, similar to taking too much melatonin but lately (now in week 4) sleep is retardedly good. Im twitching off to bed before my GF is even asleep and she ALWAYS is asleep before me.

ive had no issue past day 6 and seeing as you have only taken it 3/9 days im nowhere near surprised about this.

it does suck that you weren't able to push through that barrier but others will and will see the gains.
to each their own essentially
 
stopstalking said:
Did you her try dosing it in the morning ? Before calling it quits I would atleast try that if you have not all ready
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I have no more interest in taking it anymore. Thanks.
 
It appears that the OP is the one that's getting bashed for expressing his views out of the norm.
 
Shin said:
It appears that the OP is the one that's getting bashed for expressing his views out of the norm.
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I would totally agree if anyone other than this OP. To much attention seeking from OP and with history, seemed like he he an agenda from beginning. If not, then I am wrong and apologize.
 
I'm just over a week in on intimidate, the last few days I've been so mother****ing tired, and the days where I got 5-6 hours of sleep I was barely able to function. I just couldn't shake the feeling. There were some other factors that could be responsible - so we shall see during this following week.
 
stopstalking said:
Did you try dosing it in the morning ? Before calling it quits I would atleast try that if you have not all ready
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I would have also suggested this and what I would have tried before quitting it all together...but understand your POV as well, M1....
 
schizm said:
I would have also suggested this and what I would have tried before quitting it all together...but understand your POV as well, M1....
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All I can say is how good I feel now. I've taken a lot of stuff but I never felt like that in such a short period of time. It just wasn't for me. I don't like feeling that way nor do I want to wait for it to subside and take a chance. Had a great leg workout yesterday with no test boost or pre workout. Actually
I had 2 margaritas early in the day. Might be on to something. Good luck.
 
Mission1 said:
All I can say is how good I feel now. I've taken a lot of stuff but I never felt like that in such a short period of time. It just wasn't for me. I don't like feeling that way nor do I want to wait for it to subside and take a chance. Had a great leg workout yesterday with no test boost or pre workout. Actually
I had 2 margaritas early in the day. Might be on to something. Good luck.
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If this were only true....I'd make Arnold look like Pee Wee Herman.
 
To anyone having sleep issues, I highly suggest you take your dose either pre-wo, or upon waking. If something is making you not sleep well, take it earlier in the day.


If this doesn't make the cycle better, I as well suggest you return it. So far these are the only 2 people who claim sleeplessness while everyone else says great sleep.
 
VaughnTrue said:
To anyone having sleep issues, I highly suggest you take your dose either pre-wo, or upon waking. If something is making you not sleep well, take it earlier in the day.

If this doesn't make the cycle better, I as well suggest you return it. So far these are the only 2 people who claim sleeplessness while everyone else says great sleep.
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There are 3.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Let me know when you receive your ZMA! Once we get you on that, I'm sure it won't be an issue, but if it is, like I said, take it pre-wo or first thing in the morning :)
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Hmm, I always take my intimidate with zma at night, I wonder if it's the zma causing awesome sleep!

I do agree though with what vaughn said, if sleep is an issue, try dosing earlier in the day. Results IMO are still going to be pronounced.

Mike
 
I suggested taking it pre-workout in another thread or this one. I can't remember. Anyway, Vaughn or Critical bench said not to. I can't remember who. My memory is really bad these days.
 
T-Bone said:
I suggested taking it pre-workout in another thread or this one. I can't remember. Anyway, Vaughn or Critical bench said not to. I can't remember who. My memory is really bad these days.
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Post #93 of this same thread.
 
T-Bone said:
I suggested taking it pre-workout in another thread or this one. I can't remember. Anyway, Vaughn or Critical bench said not to. I can't remember who. My memory is really bad these days.
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If your taking intimidate your memory should be getting better. Ask Vaughn he so knowledgeable in this area.
 
JN230 said:
SXIpro did the ZMA help you? is everything going well? can we get an update?
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With the addition of ZMA taken one hour pre-bed, if I take Intimidate just before hitting the sack, I sleep quite well now, especially considering I am historically a very light/restless sleeper.

As far as results go, even though I have upped my calories, my body fat remains exactly the same, yet I have gained 1.3 lbs after the first week, so it appears I am gaining lean mass. I've added a 1/2" to my chest, a 1/4" to my neck, and I guarantee by next week my arms will show growth. Next Tuesday night I will take my next set of measurements. I've also set a PR for pullups which I have struggled with since I was a kid.

I am quite enthused now. If I can keep my sleep in check next week I will definitley be looking to run a second 30 day 'cycle'.
 
SXIPro said:
With the addition of ZMA taken one hour pre-bed, if I take Intimidate just before hitting the sack, I sleep quite well now, especially considering I am historically a very light/restless sleeper.

As far as results go, even though I have upped my calories, my body fat remains exactly the same, yet I have gained 1.3 lbs after the first week, so it appears I am gaining lean mass. I've added a 1/2" to my chest, a 1/4" to my neck, and I guarantee by next week my arms will show growth. Next Tuesday night I will take my next set of measurements. I've also set a PR for pullups which I have struggled with since I was a kid.

I am quite enthused now. If I can keep my sleep in check next week I will definitley be looking to run a second 30 day 'cycle'.
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keep the log up mang...I have a feeling you may get an extra bottle on the house based on those kind of gains in only 1 week! dayum!
 
VaughnTrue said:
keep the log up mang...I have a feeling you may get an extra bottle on the house based on those kind of gains in only 1 week! dayum!
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I will definitely be keeping the log going. The next few weeks will be a real test. I am traveling for 6 weeks straight (Mon-Thurs of each week) and the hotel gym sucks. But, I found a Gold's about a mile from the hotel that will let me workout for free if I show them my Hyatt room card/key. :)

If I can continue to sleep well through the next 6 weeks I will build a shrine to iForce, as I have an incredibly awful time catching ZZZs when I am in a hotel. My ZMA will go in my suitcase before anything else.
 
This thread is SOOOO FAIL!Hey Mission ... you posted this in another thread ...
Mission1 said:
Don't worry. Just take it. Vaughn say it's allllll good. I think you are only born with one brain anyway. Well there's two but the little guy ain't so smart in some cases. Good luck.
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So, with a "drive-by" comment - you insinuate that this product might cause brain damage but ...YOU are taking the product to review it?Let me just say, for the record here. I'm not a rep. I don't know any reps from any companies. In fact, I'm skeptical of most reps and take everything they say with a grain of salt. I'm a bit upset that your relentless flame war against IForce has resulted in me feeling sorry for a company for the first time ever on these boards.Look man - you are one dude. You can fake a negative log - and in the end, it's still ONE negative log no matter how much you turn up the volume on it. Additionally, it's not a very credible one either - since most of us out here reading it have the brains to click on your profile and search all your previous posts - where your flame war with IForce is self-evident. There is no way you could be credible on this. YOU reviewing INTIMIDATE is like Hugo Chavez saying "Okay, Okay ... I'll live in the United States for eight weeks to see how great it's freedoms are compared to Venuzuela!" ... then a couple weeks later Hugo reports back ... "UNITED STATES SUCKS!!!" LOL - totally predictable.It's hard enough for us out here to rifle through all the various logs on this board ... some great, and some of dubious quality - and you're not doing us any favors by adding to the background noise.Thanks for nothing hoss.
 
HondaV65 said:
This thread is SOOOO FAIL!Hey Mission ... you posted this in another thread ...So, with a "drive-by" comment - you insinuate that this product might cause brain damage but ...YOU are taking the product to review it?Let me just say, for the record here. I'm not a rep. I don't know any reps from any companies. In fact, I'm skeptical of most reps and take everything they say with a grain of salt. I'm a bit upset that your relentless flame war against IForce has resulted in me feeling sorry for a company for the first time ever on these boards.Look man - you are one dude. You can fake a negative log - and in the end, it's still ONE negative log no matter how much you turn up the volume on it. Additionally, it's not a very credible one either - since most of us out here reading it have the brains to click on your profile and search all your previous posts - where your flame war with IForce is self-evident. There is no way you could be credible on this. YOU reviewing INTIMIDATE is like Hugo Chavez saying "Okay, Okay ... I'll live in the United States for eight weeks to see how great it's freedoms are compared to Venuzuela!" ... then a couple weeks later Hugo reports back ... "UNITED STATES SUCKS!!!" LOL - totally predictable.It's hard enough for us out here to rifle through all the various logs on this board ... some great, and some of dubious quality - and you're not doing us any favors by adding to the background noise.Thanks for nothing hoss.
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If you don't like what I write it's your choice not to read it. Enjoy your day:)
 
HondaV65 said:
This thread is SOOOO FAIL!Hey Mission ... you posted this in another thread ...So, with a "drive-by" comment - you insinuate that this product might cause brain damage but ...YOU are taking the product to review it?Let me just say, for the record here. I'm not a rep. I don't know any reps from any companies. In fact, I'm skeptical of most reps and take everything they say with a grain of salt. I'm a bit upset that your relentless flame war against IForce has resulted in me feeling sorry for a company for the first time ever on these boards.Look man - you are one dude. You can fake a negative log - and in the end, it's still ONE negative log no matter how much you turn up the volume on it. Additionally, it's not a very credible one either - since most of us out here reading it have the brains to click on your profile and search all your previous posts - where your flame war with IForce is self-evident. There is no way you could be credible on this. YOU reviewing INTIMIDATE is like Hugo Chavez saying "Okay, Okay ... I'll live in the United States for eight weeks to see how great it's freedoms are compared to Venuzuela!" ... then a couple weeks later Hugo reports back ... "UNITED STATES SUCKS!!!" LOL - totally predictable.It's hard enough for us out here to rifle through all the various logs on this board ... some great, and some of dubious quality - and you're not doing us any favors by adding to the background noise.Thanks for nothing hoss.
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Just because he may dis-like a certain company doesn't make him a bad person. There are some sponsor companies on here I don't like but I won't mention names because of backlash like this. How dare he dis-like a sponsor!. He doesn't like I-force. Oh well, get over it already. That doesn't change my opinion. I dis-like G n C. For that reason I don't go into ***. I could care less about what other peoples opinions are on G n C though or what they say about them. If someone says something negative about a product I like, well then that is there opinion and they are entitled to it. No skin off my back.
 
T-Bone said:
Just because he may dis-like a certain company doesn't make him a bad person. There are some sponsor companies on here I don't like but I won't mention names because of backlash like this. How dare he dis-like a sponsor!. He doesn't like I-force. Oh well, get over it already. That doesn't change my opinion. I dis-like G n C. For that reason I don't go into ***. I could care less about what other peoples opinions are on G n C though or what they say about them. If someone says something negative about a product I like, well then that is there opinion and they are entitled to it. No skin off my back.
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Thanks T-bone. It's funny how people are trained to believe that everything some company puts out is the next best thing to sliced bread. I personally think that I force could do a better job with there reps who aren't really trained in handling negative feedback on some of their supplements. Vaughn especially. Glad he doesn't rep me. Seems a little spoiled in my eyes. He would fail in the car industry. No tissues here!
 
Mission1 said:
Thanks T-bone. It's funny how people are trained to believe that everything some company puts out is the next best thing to sliced bread. I personally think that I force could do a better job with there reps who aren't really trained in handling negative feedback on some of their supplements. Vaughn especially. Glad he doesn't rep me. Seems a little spoiled in my eyes. He would fail in the car industry. No tissues here!
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I tend to agree with this an extend it to most companies. I followed the Intimidate logs and didn't know the people posting on them, I prefer to know who is writing them and know they have been around long enough to call a spade a spade (not sure if that saying is used in America).

For example, I ran HCGenerate as a sponsored log on another forum. I got zero from it. I kept my feedback objective and didn't slate anything but had to point out that it is a very expensive supplement and did less for me than a bottle of Testofen for a less than a quarter of the price. I received fairly hostile posts calling me out and claiming me to be a troll.

Not everyone likes PES stuff. I ask questions and try and get to the bottom of it where I can, sometimes I can't and sometimes I can. I have questions about iForce products I would love to know but in one of the other Intimidate threads they said companies were ganging up on them as if fearful of this amazing new product. I had a couple of technical questions to ask but I hate hostile responses so don't bother.

It is nice to see both sides of the coin. I agree that Mission's log was not always objective and unbiased (as he knows I think this) but also agree that he should be allowed to rip them a new one if their marketing creates need to do so.

That is me, sitting on the fence. This was fun to read either way. :)
 
bdcc said:
I tend to agree with this an extend it to most companies. I followed the Intimidate logs and didn't know the people posting on them, I prefer to know who is writing them and know they have been around long enough to call a spade a spade (not sure if that saying is used in America).

For example, I ran HCGenerate as a sponsored log on another forum. I got zero from it. I kept my feedback objective and didn't slate anything but had to point out that it is a very expensive supplement and did less for me than a bottle of Testofen for a less than a quarter of the price. I received fairly hostile posts calling me out and claiming me to be a troll.

Not everyone likes PES stuff. I ask questions and try and get to the bottom of it where I can, sometimes I can't and sometimes I can. I have questions about iForce products I would love to know but in one of the other Intimidate threads they said companies were ganging up on them as if fearful of this amazing new product. I had a couple of technical questions to ask but I hate hostile responses so don't bother.

It is nice to see both sides of the coin. I agree that Mission's log was not always objective and unbiased (as he knows I think this) but also agree that he should be allowed to rip them a new one if their marketing creates need to do so.

That is me, sitting on the fence. This was fun to read either way. :)
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If you note, we've had 3 people so aren't enamored by Intimidate...every single other person does so far. Of those 3, I reacted with the utmost concern in 2/3, and was in no way negative.


I am extremely negative in THIS "log" because we ALL knew the outcome before the log even started.


If someone doesn't like a product, I can't fault them for that. Even if they LOVE iForce, there is no way they will love each product we make. I just ask that we are given a fair shake...which Mission1 obviously hasn't done.
 
VaughnTrue said:
If you note, we've had 3 people so aren't enamored by Intimidate...every single other person does so far. Of those 3, I reacted with the utmost concern in 2/3, and was in no way negative.


I am extremely negative in THIS "log" because we ALL knew the outcome before the log even started.


If someone doesn't like a product, I can't fault them for that. Even if they LOVE iForce, there is no way they will love each product we make. I just ask that we are given a fair shake...which Mission1 obviously hasn't done.
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I agree with this. I think you asked questions which made sense in the other logs.

I was more referring to technical questions. I hate it when someone asks a question and a rep uses the term 'broscience' before offering any actual science on the product to the contrary. This is not necessarily directed at you personally.

The thing is, if this product works as advertised I would be all over it. I don't care if it is made by another company, my own personal progress is important and I would buy it. I don't understand parts of the product and some of the questions are met with hostility so I just stay away from it until my curiosity is satisfied one way or the other.
 
bdcc said:
I agree with this. I think you asked questions which made sense in the other logs.

I was more referring to technical questions. I hate it when someone asks a question and a rep uses the term 'broscience' before offering any actual science on the product to the contrary. This is not necessarily directed at you personally.

The thing is, if this product works as advertised I would be all over it. I don't care if it is made by another company, my own personal progress is important and I would buy it. I don't understand parts of the product and some of the questions are met with hostility so I just stay away from it until my curiosity is satisfied one way or the other.
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if you want to log it, just PM me :)
 
Thank you for the offer. I am tempted but I think morally I would find it hard to be unbiased after all of this. I wanted to log Hemavol and Maximize Intense. MV2 was the most potent pre workout formula I have ever used. Shame about the MHRA ruling on it.

Me and Vaughn should be friends, if you come to Bodypower in the UK we might be on the same stand lol.
 
bdcc said:
Thank you for the offer. I am tempted but I think morally I would find it hard to be unbiased after all of this. I wanted to log Hemavol and Maximize Intense. MV2 was the most potent pre workout formula I have ever used. Shame about the MHRA ruling on it.

Me and Vaughn should be friends, if you come to Bodypower in the UK we might be on the same stand lol.
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I know iForce will be at Fibo...tell Dusty Vaughn sent you, and he'll hook you up ;)
 
Hey Bdcc, in my opinion stick to what's been working for you . I would hate to see you fall in my position. It might be hazardous to your health. But if you need my advice I'm willing to help. Based on my history, I'm gonna stick with PES because it's been a perfect fit for me. And being I spend plenty of $ on supplements I choose to share it with a company who's leading and not following .
 
Bill had some NMDA tested out as a pure raw material a while back, he and I are going to give it a shot soon and see what we think of it before figuring out whether or not to do anything with it (release it as part of a formula), Im excited.
 
coachmurway said:
Almost 2 weeks now and my workouts are very focused (usually need some sort of pre-workout drink...not anymore!)...sleep is wonderful..love this stuff!...will weigh myself at the gym on Sunday.
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Awesome man, glad you are enjoying. Not having to take a stim pre-workout in a HUGE plus IMO.

Mike
 
Honest log

Intimidate is a product that I have been looking into as I am looking to do a body recomp. I would love to run a log for this product and provide an unbiased review. This would be both my first test booster and my first iForce product.
 
Chemistryguy said:
Intimidate is a product that I have been looking into as I am looking to do a body recomp. I would love to run a log for this product and provide an unbiased review. This would be both my first test booster and my first iForce product.
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You'll like it...
 
Anyone notice nausea in the first couple days? I went into the bahroom and dry heaved while doing deadlifts earlier. Idk if intimidate is the cause of it though.
 
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