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BlackSheep said:
Epi IS Supposed to be mild...............but it's not! I got gyno from that sht and so have alot of other guys here and around the bbing community. Halo is most definitely WAY more mild the Epithio's, but it is very under dosed IMO. My buddy here Force of Green is running H-drol at 225mgs ed (i don't really agree with this but...) and he is experiencing ZERO sides and most guys are running that sht in access of 100-150mgs these days and no one (that I've seen) has reported gyno flare up excessive BP% increase ect.....
Don't get me wrong Epithio's are a good time but they are not mild at least not as mild as everyone seems to be running around saying.:woohoo:
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That is wierd. Havoc kept me from a flare up of a very wet compound. Not saying it doesnt happen, but since it is naturally anti estrogenic, something else is going on. The same thing happened with S-Drol.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
That is wierd. Havoc kept me from a flare up of a very wet compound. Not saying it doesnt happen, but since it is naturally anti estrogenic, something else is going on. The same thing happened with S-Drol.

Adams
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Yea I agree 100%!! I ran the Gennera lbs* Epidrol and I gained 16 fcukin Lbs on that stuff in 4 weeks! Alot of the other gyno reports I've seen here were from guys running the same clone so IDK. I weigh 190lbs at 10%bf and I only went up to 40mgs for the last week and then Ouch painfull ass sore lactating nipps with hard ass knots in them. Luckily do to my OCD lol... I had one hell of a pct put together and I was able to stop it and get things back to normal.

Adams, how did you like superdrol bro?? I really want to run that sht but after the gyno scare with the Epidrol I'm second guessing it. I'd probably only go for 2-3 weeks at a lower dose 10-20mgs. It seems like some people hate it and some love the stuff so what was it like for you man??
 
ill be using HAVOC actually...but maybe ill get the halo instead. I didnt know the BP issues between the two was so drastic. Sounds awesome man!
 
BlackSheep said:
Yea I agree 100%!! I ran the Gennera lbs* Epidrol and I gained 16 fcukin Lbs on that stuff in 4 weeks! Alot of the other gyno reports I've seen here were from guys running the same clone so IDK. I weigh 190lbs at 10%bf and I only went up to 40mgs for the last week and then Ouch painfull ass sore lactating nipps with hard ass knots in them. Luckily do to my OCD lol... I had one hell of a pct put together and I was able to stop it and get things back to normal.

Adams, how did you like superdrol bro?? I really want to run that sht but after the gyno scare with the Epidrol I'm second guessing it. I'd probably only go for 2-3 weeks at a lower dose 10-20mgs. It seems like some people hate it and some love the stuff so what was it like for you man??
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I personally loved S-Drol, I had no sides with it besides a hefty aggression. Strength was great, and leaned out nicely. I went up to 30mgs if I remember correctly. But is always relative to each person, so I would low dose it for a bit, see how you handle it.

Adams
 
BlackSheep said:
Epi IS Supposed to be mild...............but it's not! I got gyno from that sht and so have alot of other guys here and around the bbing community. Halo is most definitely WAY more mild the Epithio's, but it is very under dosed IMO. My buddy here Force of Green is running H-drol at 225mgs ed (i don't really agree with this but...) and he is experiencing ZERO sides and most guys are running that sht in access of 100-150mgs these days and no one (that I've seen) has reported gyno flare up excessive BP% increase ect.....
Don't get me wrong Epithio's are a good time but they are not mild at least not as mild as everyone seems to be running around saying.:woohoo:
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my bad, i thought they both were kind of mild........ thanks for the correction.
 
DAdams91982 said:
I personally loved S-Drol, I had no sides with it besides a hefty aggression. Strength was great, and leaned out nicely. I went up to 30mgs if I remember correctly. But is always relative to each person, so I would low dose it for a bit, see how you handle it.

Adams
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Thanks Adams looks like I'll give it a try. I might even do a two weeker not sure but after reading this crappy ass review of Tren I'd rather run the superD anyways.:hammer:
 
Kristofer68SS said:
my bad, i thought they both were kind of mild........ thanks for the correction.
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Aw, no problem bro I would say that the H-D is pretty damn mild side-gains wise but it can still be rough on the blood. Just not worth it for 5-8lbs IMO. Maybe for a cut it would be but def not if your looking for some size...
 
BlackSheep said:
Yea I agree 100%!! I ran the Gennera lbs* Epidrol and I gained 16 fcukin Lbs on that stuff in 4 weeks! Alot of the other gyno reports I've seen here were from guys running the same clone so IDK. I weigh 190lbs at 10%bf and I only went up to 40mgs for the last week and then Ouch painfull ass sore lactating nipps with hard ass knots in them. Luckily do to my OCD lol... I had one hell of a pct put together and I was able to stop it and get things back to normal.

Adams, how did you like superdrol bro?? I really want to run that sht but after the gyno scare with the Epidrol I'm second guessing it. I'd probably only go for 2-3 weeks at a lower dose 10-20mgs. It seems like some people hate it and some love the stuff so what was it like for you man??
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curious, are all the reports just with Epidrol? i thought this was one of the GOOD ones!?
 
For what it's worth...I have insomnia while on cycle as well. I tried ZMA and melatonin and felt nothing. I ended up taking benadryl or unisom. Also, I agree with NOT taking nyquil...tylenol while on cycle is not a good idea.

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T H E O R E M said:
curious, are all the reports just with Epidrol? i thought this was one of the GOOD ones!?
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Not all but 85-90% of the reports I've seen have been from that one. Also I'm 3 weeks out from pct and STILL having prolactin issues so it makes me second guess the purity of this ph. These fcukers get away with putting whatever the hell they want into these phs and designers and nothing ever comes of it!! Pisses me off to no end!! Look no further than IBE that is one piss poor comp just off the top of my head but it's def not the only one!!!!
 
BlackSheep said:
Not all but 85-90% of the reports I've seen have been from that one. Also I'm 3 weeks out from pct and STILL having prolactin issues so it makes me second guess the purity of this ph. These fcukers get away with putting whatever the hell they want into these phs and designers and nothing ever comes of it!! Pisses me off to no end!! Look no further than IBE that is one piss poor comp just off the top of my head but it's def not the only one!!!!
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i didnt search too much on it, but i think PA did mention it was legit at least. Never know maybe some batches bad with them too.

perhaps they get their sources from the same place IBE did during that whole TREN predicament. Prolactin issues on epi? hmmm. Well i dont want to point fingers tho
 
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