Increased libido while on Superdrol?

BigTender

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I'm on day 10 of my Superdrol cycle and I think my libido is higher than normal. I have no noticeable testicular atrophy either. I know my cycle isn't over yet, but I guess I shouldn't be complaining. Does anyone else have a similar experience with Superdrol? If so, did you begin to see a drop in libido and increase in testicular atrophy during the later part of your cycle?

Thanks :thumbsup:
 
yo dude! im on day 10 also with methyl dx3 and my libido has def increased. however, they say after 3 weeks it disappears so im not sure yet. whats ur dosage?? i started at 30mg and am still on 30mg
 
My libido goes up on Superdrol or its clones. Too bad it goes in the crapper for two weeks after I come off.

My wife actually told me "don't use that stuff again" for that very reason.
 
fatsuperman said:
My libido goes up on Superdrol or its clones. Too bad it goes in the crapper for two weeks after I come off.

My wife actually told me "don't use that stuff again" for that very reason.
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same here. I was noticably harder in many bodyparts including the one in discussion. It went to the :dump: after i stopped using it and it was in the crapper for a long time after that. Be warned and enjoy it while you can. Get that aspire for PCT.
 
I did 10mg on my first day and then I've been doing 20mg/ED ever since. As of now I'm on day 12 and so far 20mg/ED has worked pretty well. My diet and workout routine has been in check and I've been taking my support supplements, and I've had some strength and weight gain. Beginning on day 15, or the start of week 3, I might bump my dose up to 30mg/ED as long as the sides don't become too big of a problem. As far as noticeable physical sides I've experienced: I've had a few lower back pumps, usually after doing deadlifts and squats, and occasionally other times. I've gotten a few pimples since I've been on Superdrol, but I still get a few pimples from time to time anyway, so it might just be a coincidence. I've had some cases of lethargy, usually shortly after my first dose in the morning. Nothing too serious; every once in a while I've taken a short nap but it's not happening every day. Like I said before, I've still got no noticeable testicular atrophy, as well as no lower leg pumps, shin splints, no signs of gyno, or anything else I can think of. I'm not saying my lipid profile isn't completely jacked, or that my cholesterol isn't whacked, but the physical sides have been kept to a manageable minimum. My blood pressure is a little higher than normal. Usually it runs around 120-125/67-70, or somewhere within that range. After my first week it went to 130/67, and I'll be taking it today or tomorrow, and more than likely it'll be even higher. I've been taking hawthorn berries to aid in lowering my BP, and will continue to do so until my BP is back to my normal levels.

Thanks for listening. If you have any other questions about my cycle, just ask.
 
Probably bc SD free's up test from shbg. So for a short time, before you get suppressed, you have supraphisiological levels of test. More test means more DHT and that helps with libido.

Dont know how much SD by itself, has an effect on libido though...
 
I’d guess it probably lowers SHBG to a good extent like a lot of DHTs do. Anything that decreases SHBG enough will raise libido. My libido was like highschool level on 100mg/day of Winstrol.
 
Just threw in superdrol after 14 weeks on test and crashed my estrogen fast. Usually a large need for a.i. but estro seems to be staying low with just the sdrol
 
bigbeaph said:
Just threw in superdrol after 14 weeks on test and crashed my estrogen fast. Usually a large need for a.i. but estro seems to be staying low with just the sdrol
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Wuut? Didn't know SD lowers estro. Can you crash estro with sd?
 
Jinsun said:
Probably bc SD free's up test from shbg. So for a short time, before you get suppressed, you have supraphisiological levels of test. More test means more DHT and that helps with libido.

Dont know how much SD by itself, has an effect on libido though...
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This
 
Zvch said:
I’d guess it probably lowers SHBG to a good extent like a lot of DHTs do. Anything that decreases SHBG enough will raise libido. My libido was like highschool level on 100mg/day of Winstrol.
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Yeah winny made my gyno flare up within like 3 days, it lowers shbg substantially and quickly.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
so $hit! man that is very helpful

I had no idea that SD lowers SHBG

that would make a lot of sense tho

would anyone have any info how SD does this? Or how one controls their level of SHBG... i was under the assumption that this wasnt one of the elements we can "control"
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Like Old Witch said, Superdrol is literally methylated Masteron. Masteron in particular has a very high binding affinity for SHBG which is going to free up a lot more testosterone as a result. A lot of DHTs derivatives do, a lot of AAS do in general. Not sure if DHTs do this moreso than other compounds. Masteron, Proviron, Winstrol, are just a few good examples. Low dose LGD-4033 can actually be used for this.

You can definitely control your SHBG by adding any of these. Proviron and Masteron low dose can be used pretty safely long-term to help with libido. I lot of guys do this actually.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
that was my next question ...

appreciate the info

what dose of masteron should be used and what are the sides of this protocol?



EDIT:

Could you run low dose masteron and not be on TRT?
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I’ve heard of guys running 100-150mg of Mast a week long term with their TRT dose for this reason. Going higher than that, you would need to up the Test so it would pretty much turn into a cycle. It’s something I haven’t personally tried yet but I would imagine the side effects would be minimal at that dose. It would be user dependent. The things to look out for would be the typical side effects of a DHT - hair loss, blood pressure, cholesterol, liver enzyme elevation etc. It’s a pretty mild drug and the fact that it’s injectable would make it even milder. Probably none of these would be an issue. If the Test is higher than the Masteron, it shouldn’t crash your estrogen.

The benefits would be a potential increase in sex-drive, additional lean muscle mass and metabolic rate, drying/leaning out, lower water retention and aromatization so less of an AI would be needed, possibly no AI.

I mean you could run Masteron without TRT but I wouldn’t recommend it. It would be a bad idea to do long term for sure. You wouldn’t get much out of it besides a leaner, dryer look and you could drive your estrogen too low.
 
Jinsun said:
Wuut? Didn't know SD lowers estro. Can you crash estro with sd?
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Let me try that again
Was running 500 test and exem. When I didnt change my exem protocol, kept the 500 test, added in superdrol and estro crashed. Removed the exem (25mg eod - I convert at a high rate) and feels like estro is climbing insanely slow. Got my erections back but still having joint pain. So I dont believe sd could do that on it's own- like stated above....probably about the same as masteron.
 
Really high or really low levels of estrogen in men have all kinds of negative effects. You need estrogen but, too little and you start seeing bone and soft tissue issues. Most of us have a problem regulating our estrogen levels and SHBG. High estrogen means a host of problems. You can do an internet search. Long story short, high estrogen means low sex drive and E.D.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
what are the bone / soft tissue issues? examples?

i still am kinda meh in the libido category. i feel like i am just sitting here waiting on the TRT to kick and change things but nothing is happeneing right now
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Brittle cartilage (tendon rupture, torn ligament etc)

Osteoporosis

Decreased collagen/elastin synthesis (paper thin skin and wrinkles)
 
Old Witch said:
Brittle cartilage (tendon rupture, torn ligament etc)

Osteoporosis

Decreased collagen/elastin synthesis (paper thin skin and wrinkles)
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Thanks for answering before I could, its appreciated. I try very hard to help as many people as I can. I have a special affinity for anyone doing any type of weight training. I guess it was in my blood even before medicine.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
what are the bone / soft tissue issues? examples?

i still am kinda meh in the libido category. i feel like i am just sitting here waiting on the TRT to kick and change things but nothing is happeneing right now
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How long have you been on it and what dose?
 
bigbeaph said:
Let me try that again
Was running 500 test and exem. When I didnt change my exem protocol, kept the 500 test, added in superdrol and estro crashed. Removed the exem (25mg eod - I convert at a high rate) and feels like estro is climbing insanely slow. Got my erections back but still having joint pain. So I dont believe sd could do that on it's own- like stated above....probably about the same as masteron.
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Hm... maybe the exem was just to much? Idk...
 
Yea...was just trying to make the point that the superdrol must lower shbg at least fairly considerably...exem had been dialed in for months before that. Sdrol was the only thing that changed
 
Just to chime in because it may help someone, I’ve been using Proviron for the first time ever. Last 6 weeks in PCT I’ve taken just 25mg Proviron daily - NEVER have I experienced such libido in PCT, and quality of orgasm is 100% for sure better than without. Performance is undoubtedly better and more enjoyable for everyone, and I feel it helps my energy in the gym as well.

Proviron - 10/10 would recommend
 
Hyde said:
Just to chime in because it may help someone, I’ve been using Proviron for the first time ever. Last 6 weeks in PCT I’ve taken just 25mg Proviron daily - NEVER have I experienced such libido in PCT, and quality of orgasm is 100% for sure better than without. Performance is undoubtedly better and more enjoyable for everyone, and I feel it helps my energy in the gym as well.

Proviron - 10/10 would recommend
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Proviron is super old school pct.

Watch out though because it’s a steroid still. It’s just not very suppressive. At all.

Interestingly enough proviron is the DHT counterpart to Primobolan which is a DHB. Both are c1-methyl.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
Appreciate the info Hyde

Why did you start taking it?

What exactly does Proviron do in the body?

Is it sustainable long term or is this just a PCT thing
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Proviron is the first steroid ever marketed. It’s main effect is inhibiting SHBG, though.
 
Well, your Testosterone was low as hell. That’s for sure. And DHEA was very high.

SHBG is median. So lowering it would have had effect.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
can you run low doses of either long term?
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Yes. In fact I’d say long term primobolan is some people’s dream cruise.

Proviron, is pretty damn safe. It’s not very anabolic, but it does make you feel great. And it lowers shbg.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
What does the DHEA value mean? What should it be and what would casue a high value
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DHEA Sulfate is the body getting rid of DHEA. If high, that’s all stuff that didn’t get turned into testosterone, but should have. And it’s going out, not in.

So your enzymic substrate for testosterone conversion is probably lacking. Or you’re overproducing DHEA due to a lack of testicular function.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
interesting

so what would cause this enzymic deficiency? Just genetics?
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Most likely yes. I suppose everyone is different and if prohormones are used enough the body might actually realize that it’s nzymes are directly related to the androgen level and dry them up... and I guess it could be permanent. Maybe.

But that is wild speculation on my part. Pure broscience.
 
LaserGoPewPew

Proviron is used for libido, energy, ejaculate volume, estrogen antagonism. All guys could take when they came off back in the day. Made quality of life so much better this PCT, no doubt.

Not really worried about suppression, 25my ain’t **** and I’ve been on 10mg Ostarine anyway since I literally had to have my bicep reattached as I was coming off a 13wk cycle. Been on a combo of Nolva, Osta, Proviron, & Eclipse transdermal AI last 6 weeks. Nuts are full and I feel good. But the ostarine will be the one if anything messing things up. We’ll see what bloods show in a week or two.
 
The idea that (uninformed) doctors have of PCT is that it’s just more steroids and you’re not coming off.

That idea comes from back in the day when proviron was the only pct.
 
Also, when I say I thought I did pct in my teens and twenties but really was b&c, that was because of things like proviron and ATD. I never did come off steroids.
 
For me it never had any sides except maybe some insomnia at doses way way way higher than 25mg,
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
This sounds like its similar to HCG in some ways
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Except hcg raises testosterone by forcing the testes to work. And it also raises estrogen. Proviron will lower estrogen and can only raise free test.

Combining the two is a winning strategy.
 
bigbeaph said:
Yea...was just trying to make the point that the superdrol must lower shbg at least fairly considerably...exem had been dialed in for months before that. Sdrol was the only thing that changed
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Oh, I see... Interesting. Tnx for sharing

LaserGoPewPew said:
wow that does sound appealing

So - heres a dumb question ... why dont doctors Rx this as a part of TRT??
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Because it's first and foremost a steroid and secondly, it's "on label use" is something different. You must distinguish between "on label" and "off label" use of medicine. Doctor are going to be really hesitant to prescribe you something for a different purpose then it's official use.

Like for instance modafinil. It's great for ADD but it's on label use is for narcolepsy. You should check how much more narcolepsy patients were diagnosed since modafinil became popular XD
 
Zvch said:
Damn are you sure it was Winny? lol what else were you running with it?
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Winny and low dose test. Yeah it was for sure winny.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
do docs in Euro Rx it to their TRT patients?
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I hear it’s extremely hard in European countries and Australia to get on trt. But my guess is yes. It’s also used off label for fertility. No idea if they still do that. But I have heard tell of it.
 
Old Witch said:
I hear it’s extremely hard in European countries and Australia to get on trt. But my guess is yes. It’s also used off label for fertility. No idea if they still do that. But I have heard tell of it.
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Yes, it's hard. You really need to be hypogonadal, whait for a doctors apointement for 6 months and be subjected to stupid amount of stupid practice till stuff gets prescribed right. Like I heard of a dude getting trt shoots for 2 months and then they pulled him off to see if things would get better???!!!
 
Jinsun said:
Yes, it's hard. You really need to be hypogonadal, whait for a doctors apointement for 6 months and be subjected to stupid amount of stupid practice till stuff gets prescribed right. Like I heard of a dude getting trt shoots for 2 months and then they pulled him off to see if things would get better???!!!
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LOL.
That's crazy.
 
Old Witch said:
And this is why degrees mean almost nothing.
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Lmao...I'm learning with doctors a degree occasionally means - I've learned this subject and how to practically apply it for the better good. More often it means - I can follow an infographic flow chart made by insurance companies and god knows who else and successfully move from bullet point 1 to 2 to 3 etc......oh wait, all I need for that is to learn how to read!
 
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