In desperate need for an extremely strong fat burner

Buffspartan

Buffspartan

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Alright, so my doc recently jacked up my dosage of prednisone, resulting in uncontrollable weight gain no matter how hard I workout or how well I eat. Does anyone here have any suggestions for a really strong burner or appetite suppressant to at least lessen the weight gain? Completely desperate. I'm up over 10 pounds in like 2 weeks. Also...it cannot contain Yohimbe, Yohimbine, or Rauwolscine/Alpha Yohimbe
 
Buffspartan said:
Alright, so my doc recently jacked up my dosage of prednisone, resulting in uncontrollable weight gain no matter how hard I workout or how well I eat. Does anyone here have any suggestions for a really strong burner or appetite suppressant to at least lessen the weight gain? Completely desperate. I'm up over 10 pounds in like 2 weeks. Also...it cannot contain Yohimbe, Yohimbine, or Rauwolscine/Alpha Yohimbe
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prednisone is known to cause a lot of fluid retention, especially long term. Try monitored your sodium intake while on it as well as just being aware that a lot of the weight might be water weight. But ephedrine containing products would be my fat burner recommendations.
 
While I can use ephedrine on occasions, a full ECA stack (3x daily) negatively affects the condition that the prednisone is being used to treat....I found that out the hard way. And yes, a large amount of it is fluid retention, but some is fat as well. If someone recommended a good, strong diuretic or a diuretic/fat burning stack, that would work to. I just want something...i look and feel like s**t
 
I also gained a considerable amount of weight fast. For me most was water and doing a low carb diet shredded it fast.
Black mamba or hellfire are my go to supplements when I need to shred fast. I just typically don't like them cause I don't eat on them and lose muscle.
 
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Also maybe some raspberry ketones, CLA is always good to stack.
Also another good product to look at is Norcodrene by PES. A lot of ppl like this product when cutting.
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Recompadrol
Metabolic Powder
Evomuse Defuse

These will all help prevent fat gains.
 
I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending a product given the medial condition and treatment you're going through. I'd highly advise running all dietary supplements by your physician.
 
In my experience...fat burners are very limited in their overall effect. There are limited products that I think are effective, and Norcodrene and ECA are both at the top of that list and you have eliminated both of those with your restrictions.

Forskolin, capsaicin, green tea, and green coffee bean extract are probably the only mildly effective ingredients I would say have some science behind them. I've also noticed some fat loss with fish oils and sesamin - but it is moderate and I definitely respond better to Sesamin than some people.

There are other moderately useful chemicals out there, but they are limited. The bottom line is that, given your medical condition - it is going to be more risk than reward trying to use a fat burner to lose weight. As others have said, a doctor should know what you are trying to do and what you are taking, don't just go on someone's recommendation here.

I think modifying your diet may help more than anything. I know it's beating a dead horse and you said, "no matter how hard you workout or how well you eat" - but that is going to give you the most bang for your buck and you may not be doing quite as much as you could be. I know it's hard. Keep at it.
 
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I also agree with seeking your doc first. I know it sounds weird but my boxer is on daily prednisone and she has put on a ton of weight and it has messed with her bladder as well. It's just a known side of prednisone.
 
I agree with Aaron. It wouldn't be wise to recommend supplements whilst you are on medication.

It is better to be safe than sorry.

I have been on prednisone extensively and I sympathise with you, it isn't fun at all lol.

Best of luck with your recovery. :)
 
Synapsin said:
This is the best advice you'll get.
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I disagree. I firmly believe in being open with your physician. However 99% of physicians out there are half as educated on our types of supplementation. Prednisone is a steroidal drug used as a immunosuppressive which causes weight gain. That being said other than some medications and melatonin not much is completely contraindicated with prednisone. It is a very common medication and a supplement like T2 should not interfere.
 
Hybrilean is working really good on me! but its about to go away so you better hurry up if u want some :)


10:1 Olive Leaf Extract, Green Coffee Bean Extract (50% Cholrogenic Acid), Caffeine, AMP Citrate (4-Amino-2-Methylpentane Citrate), Banaba (1% Corosolic Acid), Higenamine
 
Piledahlaren said:
Hybrilean is working really good on me! but its about to go away so you better hurry up if u want some :) 10:1 Olive Leaf Extract, Green Coffee Bean Extract (50% Cholrogenic Acid), Caffeine, AMP Citrate (4-Amino-2-Methylpentane Citrate), Banaba (1% Corosolic Acid), Higenamine
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if only it were amp......
 
@ strongsupplementshopreps and mindandmusclerepdudes, are you ****ting me?
theres a guy asking about how to control fat gain while on a medication for a condition he has not mentioned, but is apparently made worse by e&y.
the lean engineer dude wants to sell him some norcodrene, which contains a really potent yohimbe extract.
the graynurse dude posts about taking t2 (which obv may disrupt some hormones) without knowing what OPs condition is, 2 products with yohimbine and a prohormone blend of 1-dhea and epiandrosterone.
then someone mentions hybrilean which, apart from being known for not meeting label claims, contains higenamine - of which you can assume OP should not take it because he also doesnt do well on ephedrine.

so can i ask all of you guys: what the hell is wrong with you?
the reason people say to run this stuff by his physician is not because anyone assumes that guy knows a lot about smart supplementation practice, but because, again, OP HAS A MEDICAL CONDITION that he is being treated for by a doctor who should at least be able to tell him what he will have to stay away from. you know. due to the medical condition.

reality of the situation will be that he'll most likely have to man up until the treatment has either resolved his issues and lose the fat back afterwards or, if it is chronic, find a longterm resolution to a longterm problem which does not interfere with anything. that might very well be more likely a good GDA to at least mitigate some of the fat gain that a stim or mitochondrial uncoupling based product, but even those you cannot possibly recommend without knowing a lot more about the whole story because some of those interfere with medication elimination etc, and, again, maybe with the condition being treated.

and just because prednisone is a common medication does not make it okay to recommend prohormones vs the fat gain, even if its 'just' 1-dhea, especially because we, again, do not know what condition OP is being treated for. jesus.
 
NurseGray said:
I disagree. I firmly believe in being open with your physician. However 99% of physicians out there are half as educated on our types of supplementation. Prednisone is a steroidal drug used as a immunosuppressive which causes weight gain. That being said other than some medications and melatonin not much is completely contraindicated with prednisone. It is a very common medication and a supplement like T2 should not interfere.
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If that's your stance, that's fine, but you really don't know what you're talking about (and the liability now lies on your company, so I'd tread lightly in the future). Prednisone is remarkably high in side effects, and while it doesn't have many contraindications (most drugs don't), it certainly has a laundry list of drug interactions. In addition to all of this, you don't even know why OP is on prednisone. High dosed prednisone is typically indicated for relatively serious medical conditions, and recommending any supplement to him while saying physician follow-up is useless is frankly incredibly irresponsible (and I hope you are not involved in any form of patient care with such comments).
 
I stand by my statement. The OP asked a question and I have my opinion the same as yours. People should come for honest advice. I am just answering his question to the best of my abilities. To the comment of I don't know what I am talking about. The virginia state board of nursing states otherwise. People trying to make me and my company look like fools really says nothing. I never stated physician follow up was useless. I clearly stated they were not educated on supplementation. They can tell you all day long drug interactions but anything past normal vitamins and herbs will make it hard to find a physician that truly knows. Doc are the same as everyone else. They have their basic knowledge and area of expertise. Most aren't any "smarter" than the average person just more training and time in the field on a certain specialty. I have had many doctors not know what to do in emergency situations and turn to none other than the Nurses. No I do not know the OP reason for taking prednisone but, that isn't the question I answered. I singled out Prednisone as a drug not a disease process. I will always continue to be open with both my patients and colleagues.
 
It honestly seems like they just cut and pasted instead of reading the post... That really brings down the value of the overall Forum imo, not to mention if that advice is taken, thats just horrible. Just saying
 
EMPIREMIND said:
It honestly seems like they just cut and pasted instead of reading the post... That really brings down the value of the overall Forum imo, not to mention if that advice is taken, thats just horrible. Just saying
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I don't feel like any of this is helping the OP so lets just agree to disagree.
 
just saying that he clearly States he cant use yohimbe in post#1, then you post a topical yohombe product. Im sure thats a great product,I love yohimbe, but the whole point of his question was something without that ingredient.

Im just saying it feels like you guys dont read his post, just see the word fat burner in the subject and cut and paste your advertisement. Thats my opinión.

My recommendation to buffspartan is openly consult your doctor and get his reccomendation.
 
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NurseGray said:
I stand by my statement.To the comment of I don't know what I am talking about. The virginia state board of nursing states otherwise. I have had many doctors not know what to do in emergency situations and turn to none other than the Nurses. No I do not know the OP reason for taking prednisone but, that isn't the question I answered.
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Because i have a really, really hard time to 'agree to disagree' on this, let me re-iterate what you said in this thread:
- you do 'stand by' your recommendation of T2, epiandrosterone, 1-dhea, topical yohimbine, a preworkout with yohimbine, a sexual aid with yohimbine and a fatburner with synephrine (which again might be problematic based on what we know) to someone who gains weight on an immunosuppressant steroid which he is taking for undisclosed medical problems (which we can assume have been going on for a while because OP said the doc had to jack up the dosage)
- you do think 'you know what you are talking about', based on being a state registered nurse or whatever you americans call that
- because doctors have to ask nurses in emergency situations and them not knowing a lot about supplementation in general that somehow makes your own recommendation better
- you did not answer the question about what OP should take in his situation, but just some random other question OP did not ask and you did not specify which.
- to me, personally, you did not seem to understand that people telling him to ask his doc does not have anything to do with those people assuming the MD in question is well educated on supplementation etc, but with the assumption that this guy might know more about the health condition OP is being treated than, for example, absolutely anyone in this thread


...do you really think you should be working in your field?
 
I'm am not going to continue to argue with you.
 
NurseGray said:
I stand by my statement. The OP asked a question and I have my opinion the same as yours. People should come for honest advice. I am just answering his question to the best of my abilities. To the comment of I don't know what I am talking about. The virginia state board of nursing states otherwise. People trying to make me and my company look like fools really says nothing. I never stated physician follow up was useless. I clearly stated they were not educated on supplementation. They can tell you all day long drug interactions but anything past normal vitamins and herbs will make it hard to find a physician that truly knows. Doc are the same as everyone else. They have their basic knowledge and area of expertise. Most aren't any "smarter" than the average person just more training and time in the field on a certain specialty. I have had many doctors not know what to do in emergency situations and turn to none other than the Nurses. No I do not know the OP reason for taking prednisone but, that isn't the question I answered. I singled out Prednisone as a drug not a disease process. I will always continue to be open with both my patients and colleagues.
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too bad you're wrong
 
In keeping with the spirit of the thread I would like to recommend the entire line of Evomuse products. I use them and I've never needed prednisone, what more evidence do you need that they work for all ailments?*

*If anyone can't tell this is sarcasm laced.
 
Geoforce said:
In keeping with the spirit of the thread I would like to recommend the entire line of Evomuse products. I use them and I've never needed prednisone, what more evidence do you need that they work for all ailments?*

*If anyone can't tell this is sarcasm laced.
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This cracked me up. lol I have nothing to offer to this thread, but a solid thanks to you good sir. haha
 
Geoforce said:
In keeping with the spirit of the thread I would like to recommend the entire line of Evomuse products. I use them and I've never needed prednisone, what more evidence do you need that they work for all ailments?*

*If anyone can't tell this is sarcasm laced.
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I was like .......... until I saw the disclaimer
 
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