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What ingredients are the latest & greatest to improve pumps, or boost N.O during a workout?
 
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The easiest option would be High Volume if your looking for a powder its been proven time and time again most don't even need the max dosage. Pill version Hydro3 From Olympus Is Top Notch you cant go wrong with either choice really.
 
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What ingredients are the latest & greatest to improve pumps, or boost N.O during a workout?
Citrulline 6g
Agmatine 1g
Bonded Nitrate 1-1.5g (Arginine, Creatine, Leucine, Potassium for example)
Glycerol 1-1.5g
Warm Body Temp
Adequate carbs around your workout
Adequate liquids (some pump products need 16-20oz of water) to make them effective (IE Hemavol)
 
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The easiest option would be High Volume if your looking for a powder its been proven time and time again most don't even need the max dosage. Pill version Hydro3 From Olympus Is Top Notch you cant go wrong with either choice really.
Legit options right there.

The new Conqu3r Unleashed is just about to launch as well so keep your eye out. Same solid pumps (if not better) than with OG Conquer
 
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Citrulline 6g
Agmatine 1g
Nitrates 1-1.5g
Glycerol 1-1.5g
Warm Body Temp
Adequate carbs around your workout
Adequate liquids (some pump products need 16-20oz of water) to make them effective (IE Hemavol)
High volume will definitely do it but I like this stack above. I may even give it a try. Lately I've been using hemavo2 max with citrulline and noxygen in it and it gives me great pump.
 
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Mumbles your already getting all of that from HyperMax XT(6g CItrulline Malate, 2g Glycerol, 1g Agmatine) but if you needed more look into adding Hydro3 for Nitrates, then you would have all aspects covered!!
 
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I like Get Diesel NOS Ether and GSN Nitro NOX Pro!
 
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The easiest option would be High Volume if your looking for a powder its been proven time and time again most don't even need the max dosage. Pill version Hydro3 From Olympus Is Top Notch you cant go wrong with either choice really.
Pretty much this.

Going to be hard to beat a comprehensive product like High Volume that contains full doses of Agmatine, Citrulline, AND Nitrates. ;)
 
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Citrulline 6g
Agmatine 1g
Nitrates 1-1.5g
Glycerol 1-1.5g
Warm Body Temp
Adequate carbs around your workout
Adequate liquids (some pump products need 16-20oz of water) to make them effective (IE Hemavol)
Too high for citrulline and nitrates, IMO.
 
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Thanks for the info fellas. I hear about hydro3 but wasn't aware it helped pumps. Is it stim'd?
Adizzle1 I was just asking for knowledge purposes. Hypermax definitely has me covered, the pumps are awesome! Just trying to learn more & more every day.
 
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Too high for citrulline and nitrates, IMO.
Many nitrate based products have 1g some upward to 3g of nitrates.
The company you use to rep for has 2g of arginine nitrates in High Volume

 
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Many nitrate based products have 1g some upward to 3g of nitrates.
The company you use to rep for has 2g of arginine nitrates in High Volume

lol, that's nitrate bonded to an amino acid. You said 1-1.5g of nitrates.

Thanks for informing me of the HV profile. Looks solid. Smart formulators.
 
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Many nitrate based products have 1g some upward to 3g of nitrates.
The company you use to rep for has 2g of arginine nitrates in High Volume
Supplementing with that high of a nitrate dosing would be plain stupid.
 
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Supplementing with that high of a nitrate dosing would be plain stupid.
Surely you guys understand he's talking about the total compound + bound nitrates not just nitrates.
 
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Chiming in to learn,
Why would going that high be stupid?
Ineffective?
Not safe?
 
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Surely you guys understand he's talking about the total compound + bound nitrates not just nitrates.
We all know.

Onlookers may not.
Kids at home, DO NOT throw back 3g of nitrates lol
 
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Surely you guys understand he's talking about the total compound + bound nitrates not just nitrates.
Not really, when he recommended 1-1.5 grams of nitrates above in his first post.
 
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Not really, when he recommended 1-1.5 grams of nitrates above in his first post.
Imagine the migraine someone would get if they look in 1.5g of nitrates. F that.
 

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Thanks for the info fellas. I hear about hydro3 but wasn't aware it helped pumps. Is it stim'd?
Adizzle1 I was just asking for knowledge purposes. Hypermax definitely has me covered, the pumps are awesome! Just trying to learn more & more every day.
No stim, just solid pumps
 

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I always love your post The Solution...

I wanted to ask you if Vegetable grade Glycerol much more better?

Citrulline 6g
Agmatine 1g
Nitrates 1-1.5g
Glycerol 1-1.5g
Warm Body Temp
Adequate carbs around your workout
Adequate liquids (some pump products need 16-20oz of water) to make them effective (IE Hemavol)
 
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Exactly The Point.... Most products on the market contain around 1-1.5g of Nitrate based ingredients (Creatine/Leucine/Arginine/Potassium)
Some upward to 3g
Right, but not all yield the same amount of nitrate on a per gram basis.

Arginine and creatine have 2 different weights. 1.5g arginine nitrate doesn't yield the same amount of nitrates as 1.5g of creatine nitrate.

A gram of creatine nitrate is ~ 320mg nitrate, while a gram of arginine nitrate is ~260mg nitrate.

Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken. :)
 
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Right, but not all yield the same amount of nitrate on a per gram basis.

Arginine and creatine have 2 different weights. 1.5g arginine nitrate doesn't yield the same amount of nitrates as 1.5g of creatine nitrate.

A gram of creatine nitrate is ~ 320mg nitrate, while a gram of arginine nitrate is ~260mg nitrate.

Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken. :)
I know a non stim with 3G creatine nitrate and it has 2g creatine and 1g nitrate when broke down

So your point on 1g nitrates is still too high to take would be taken with a grain of salt since there has been no real negative feedback on that non stim pre workout to date and many people handle it perfectly fine .

Sorry if my initial post was not clear to you as the others got my point from the start.
 
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I know a non stim with 3G creatine nitrate and it has 2g creatine and 1g nitrate when broke down

So your point on 1g nitrates is still too high to take would be taken with a grain of salt since there has been no real negative feedback on that non stim pre workout to date and many people handle it perfectly fine .

Sorry if my initial post was not clear to you as the others got my point from the start.
We all got your point - don't make passive-aggressive attempts to belittle me. The countless people who are reading this thread who don't have usernames and/or post, who may not have the ergogen knowledge that we have, may have thought 1.5g of nitrates is what they should be consuming (on top of your 6g of citrulline recommendations, which is also overkill when taken in conjunction with nitrates).

Nonetheless, 1.5g of nitrate is a lot and something I would personally never recommend.
 
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I gotta brush up on my math.
 

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Been on Cialis 5mg ed for 2yrs now, would taking high volume or hydro3 have any negative impact.
 
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Citrulline 6g
Agmatine 1g
Nitrates 1-1.5g
Glycerol 1-1.5g
Warm Body Temp
Adequate carbs around your workout
Adequate liquids (some pump products need 16-20oz of water) to make them effective (IE Hemavol)
My Original post never suggested taking everything together.
OP asked "What ingredients are the latest & greatest to improve pumps, or boost N.O during a workout"
and i gave him ingredients and suggestions. No where does it say "Take all of these together"

(on top of your 6g of citrulline recommendations, which is also overkill when taken in conjunction with nitrates).
No where did i state OP had to combine Citrulline or nitrates either.

We all got your point -
Nonetheless, 1.5g of nitrate is a lot and something I would personally never recommend.
if you got my point like the others have pointed out you would understand that 1-1.5g is very common with most products/ingredients/profiles with NoHomrone & Driven stated. Which was my intention since post #1 Almost all nitrate based products (pre-workouts) will be in conjunction with Arginine, Leucine, Potassium, Creatine etc.
 
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My Original post never suggested taking everything together.
OP asked "What ingredients are the latest & greatest to improve pumps, or boost N.O during a workout"
and i gave him ingredients and suggestions. No where does it say "Take all of these together"



No where did i state OP had to combine Citrulline or nitrates either.



if you got my point like the others have pointed out you would understand that 1-1.5g is very common with most products/ingredients/profiles with NoHomrone & Driven stated. Which was my intention since post #1 Almost all nitrate based products (pre-workouts) will be in conjunction with Arginine, Leucine, Potassium, Creatine etc.
To your first point, fair enough. Given those ingredients are commonly combined, I assumed you meant in conjunction.

To your second point, you seemed to have completely ignored my post. You can't just take words out of context like that lol. Terrible. Many people who view web forums don't actively post, so I wanted to clarify that 1.5g of nitrates is not a smart idea. My point, again, is that 1.5g of nitrates (bolded, so you don't miss this again) is not something I would recommend. 1.5g of nitrates is not commonly found. As bonded to an amino acid, sure, but not as a nitrate salt.
 
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To your first point, fair enough. Given those ingredients are commonly combined, I assumed you meant in conjunction.

To your second point, you seemed to have completely ignored my post. You can't just take words out of context like that lol. Terrible. Many people who view web forums don't actively post, so I wanted to clarify that 1.5g of nitrates is not a smart idea. My point, again, is that 1.5g of nitrates (bolded, so you don't miss this again) is not something I would recommend. 1.5g of nitrates is not commonly found. As bonded to an amino acid, sure, but not as a nitrate salt.
Please show me how many products provide just "Nitrates" in a pre-workout or pump pre-workout next to none. Almost all the products suggested on these boards and sold in stores are going to be in conjunction which again is my point form Post #1. Ill edit so you don't have a heart attack.
 
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Please show me how many products provide just "Nitrates"next to none. Almost all the products suggested on these boards and sold in stores are going to be in conjunction which again is my point form Post #1. Ill edit so you don't have a heart attack.
Someone intelligent may deduce that you meant what you stated (1.5g nitrates), then determine how much nitrate that bonded compound yields. That has been the debate the whole time.

Great update to your post.
 
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Came to recommend products. Left feeling like people needs hugs.

Was going to mention ara for pumps. G'day.
 
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I got a roadmap bulging out my arms atm if you need directions?
I blame the Conqu3r Unleashed bro



i scared everyone away with my pale ass white skin and the tank top
 
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Been using High Volume for the first time and the PUMPS are better than any other product I have tried. The only one that comes close is I-Force's Hemavo2 when paired with Max out.
 
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Been using High Volume for the first time and the PUMPS are better than any other product I have tried. The only one that comes close is I-Force's Hemavo2 when paired with Max out.
I used to stack iforce Hemavol with OG Jack3d. That was a pretty intense preworkout
 
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Anyone ever add red wine extract (pills)... to help with pump? I read an article not to long ago, stating that besides the basic benefits of wine (revestrol, etc), in concentrated form it increases pump (assuming because of nitrates).
 

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