I'm on Phosphatidic acid Ya'll

[toddmuelheim]

I got 6 bottles. Wonder if I should get more. Are you guys going to dose 750mg (5caps) or go up to 1500mg (10caps)?

I'm double dosing. #yolo

 

[DEVANS89]

well i hope you are all happy!

1. I couldn't get in on that deal as I'm from the UK
2. epiq's PA isn't in the uk regardless (i can't seem to find it)
3. I'm nearly out of OG king.


=[

 

[ma70]

I got 6 bottles. Wonder if I should get more. Are you guys going to dose 750mg (5caps) or go up to 1500mg (10caps)?

Double dosing + Triumph here. 2400, the magical number. I like the amount, and now I can get it without all the fat calories that come with it.

 

[Pec.Major]

I'm double dosing. #yolo

Sickening! Will do the same.

 

[mbonheur]

well i hope you are all happy!

1. I couldn't get in on that deal as I'm from the UK
2. epiq's PA isn't in the uk regardless (i can't seem to find it)
3. I'm nearly out of OG king.


=[

I know a UK place where you can get 180 caps ( 30 days at 750mg) at 23£ if interested

 

[Pec.Major]

well i hope you are all happy!

1. I couldn't get in on that deal as I'm from the UK
2. epiq's PA isn't in the uk regardless (i can't seem to find it)
3. I'm nearly out of OG king.


=[

Of course you can. I bought 6 bottles and I live in Scandinavia. You buy it from an American supplement site. Can not link them though as they are not forum sponsors. But should not be hard to google it.

 

[Pec.Major]

Double dosing + Triumph here. 2400, the magical number. I like the amount, and now I can get it without all the fat calories that come with it.

Okey. Yeah my reason for getting the PA caps is because I was thinking on shredding some bodyfat and want to keep my fat intake low.

 

[Pec.Major]

I know a UK place where you can get 180 caps ( 30 days at 750mg) at 23£ if interested

PM site if you don´t mind.

 

[ma70]

Okey. Yeah my reason for getting the PA caps is because I was thinking on shredding some bodyfat and want to keep my fat intake low.

I'm in permanent recomp mode after my cut is done in about 5-6 weeks.

 

[alexoc949]

does it matter if you take this pre or post workout?

 

[The_Old_Guy]

does it matter if you take this pre or post workout?

Initial Wilson study dosed Pre and Post. Latest Mediator sponsored study dosed all at once Pre. Take your pick or experiment.

 

[jhbmore]

I got 6 bottles. Wonder if I should get more. Are you guys going to dose 750mg (5caps) or go up to 1500mg (10caps)?

I got 4 more bottles. 2 sites had the sale and the second site seemed to have a little more stock then the first site I ordered from. I am cutting and do not really have the macros for the granules right now. I will be dosing just the 5 caps 750mg PA. When I am done my cut and I want to add more PA in I will add 1-2 Tbs of granules to the caps.

 

[Rebel1978]

i just got myself 4 bottles. Got 2 bottle of phosphamuscle I got cheap to combine with the granules, the BOGO on EPIQ was too good to pass up. The granules aren't too bad macro wise, but it's nice to have some caps to put on top of them.

 

[Chefdeez]

I got 4 more bottles. 2 sites had the sale and the second site seemed to have a little more stock then the first site I ordered from. I am cutting and do not really have the macros for the granules right now. I will be dosing just the 5 caps 750mg PA. When I am done my cut and I want to add more PA in I will add 1-2 Tbs of granules to the caps.

750mg works very well. Wish I bought more Epiq! I'd run this stuff forever. Sure beats 3 tbsp of granules.

 

[DEVANS89]

I know a UK place where you can get 180 caps ( 30 days at 750mg) at 23£ if interested

yeah, send me a message please

 

[mbonheur]

750mg works very well. Wish I bought more Epiq! I'd run this stuff forever. Sure beats 3 tbsp of granules.

Do you really get more out of capsules than granules? I am surprised, I have never had this impression.

 

[Chefdeez]

Do you really get more out of capsules than granules? I am surprised, I have never had this impression.

Active is the same, just a different way to consume it without the added calories and fat.

 

[ma70]

Do you really get more out of capsules than granules? I am surprised, I have never had this impression.

If I could get PA without the fat calories, I'd do it every time.

 

[mbonheur]

If I could get PA without the fat calories, I'd do it every time.

I guess, it depends. The granules fit perfectly my macros.

 

[kdubson14]

There are benefits beyond PA in SL

 

[ma70]

I guess, it depends. The granules fit perfectly my macros.

Of course it's preferential, haha. I like having more fats in the form of food in my macros. It makes dieting properly less of a chore to me. Also, I got tired of the granule taste after 6 months.

 

[mbonheur]

Of course it's preferential, haha. I like having more fats in the form of food in my macros. It makes dieting properly less of a chore to me. Also, I got tired of the granule taste after 6 months.

I am doing an anabolic diet on it (so very low carb on weekdays), so it even helps me out

 

[ma70]

I am doing an anabolic diet on it (so very low carb on weekdays), so it even helps me out

I think granules on keto would be awesome, but I'm not a keto guy unfortunately. Loving my carbs, haha.

 

[warpyfunch]

For those who cycle anabolics, do you continue using PA while on cycle? Or take a break and start up again with PCT?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

For those who cycle anabolics, do you continue using PA while on cycle? Or take a break and start up again with PCT?

That was my plan, but now I dunno, my lipids tank pretty bad on cycle. Might have time off the month going into a cycle, then jump back on.

EDIT: should maybe clarify Im talking about some form of soyl granule, and not mediator

 

[khall1974]

Do you use only on workout days?

 

[Chefdeez]

Do you use only on workout days?

Everyday

 

[alvin1]

Does the EPIC one is underdose? MT one is 1500 mg 50% so 750 MG the EPIC one is 1535 for all ingredient? :

Supplement Facts

Serving Size: 5 Caplets
Servings Per Container: 30
Phosphatidic Acid Complex 1,535mg
Mediator 50P
Astragalus root
Longjack root extract
Reishi mushroom mycelia
Self-heal herb extract

 

[warpyfunch]

Does the EPIC one is underdose? MT one is 1500 mg 50% so 750 MG the EPIC one is 1535 for all ingredient? :

Supplement Facts

Serving Size: 5 Caplets
Servings Per Container: 30
Phosphatidic Acid Complex 1,535mg
Mediator 50P
Astragalus root
Longjack root extract
Reishi mushroom mycelia
Self-heal herb extract

Epiq claims 750mg PA, leaving only 35mg for the other ingredients. Ignore the other ingredients.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

If it has mediator in it, it MUST have 750mg pa.

 

[Danes]

If it has mediator in it, it MUST have 750mg pa.

Correct. Daily dose of Mediator is 1500 mg phospholipids . Since its 50% enriched PA , it gives 750mg pure PA

 

[alvin1]

Epiq claims 750mg PA, leaving only 35mg for the other ingredients. Ignore the other ingredients.

Wow impressive dosage here lol

 

[Zariph]

So cutler king V1 says take 3 pill spread during the day? I guess its still the most optimal to take all 3 preworkout right?

 

[toddmuelheim]

So cutler king V1 says take 3 pill spread during the day? I guess its still the most optimal to take all 3 preworkout right?

Yes optimal

 

[khall1974]

Has anyone tried another brand besides fearns for granules?

 

[Chefdeez]

Has anyone tried another brand besides fearns for granules?

Piping rock granules is best deal you will find

 

[khall1974]

Piping rock granules is best deal you will find

Damn...just checked them out and you are right. How many do you take to get the studied dose?

 

[Chefdeez]

Damn...just checked them out and you are right. How many do you take to get the studied dose?

It's hard to tell exactly but 2-3 tbsp seems to be a good starting point.

 

[khall1974]

It's hard to tell exactly but 2-3 tbsp seems to be a good starting point.

I only saw the gel caps on amazon...1200mg each. What do you think? Cap or granules?

 

[Chefdeez]

I only saw the gel caps on amazon...1200mg each. What do you think? Cap or granules?

You'd need a ton of caps to get the right dosage.

 

[khall1974]

You'd need a ton of caps to get the right dosage.

Even if each cap is 1200mg?

 

[warpyfunch]

Even if each cap is 1200mg?

That's 1200mg soy lecithin, not 1200mg PA.

You'd want 15g-21g soy lecithin per day to get the desired PA content.

 

[toddmuelheim]

I only saw the gel caps on amazon...1200mg each. What do you think? Cap or granules?

Which gel caps

 

[Sparkss]

I just wanted to share an experience I had with the Epiq PA. I grabbed a bunch of bottles in the BOGO and wanted to use them before their expiration date (just sayin). So I calculated # of softgels I had and divided by the # of days until the exp date. That came out to 8 per day. I had already taken 5 w/o any issues. Even so far as to take 5 along w/ 2+ TBS (heaping) of Soy Lecithin powder (roughly 35% denser than the granules, per TBS, according to my scale). Ok, so much for the history.

I took 8 the other day along with my PWO (same as with the 5 softgels w/ and w/o the SL), but this time within 30 minutes I was running to the bathroom. Nothing else changed for me except adding 50% more (3 more) softgels.

Since then I have taken 5 softgels w/ my PWO and also on a non-workout day in the morning before breakfast, all w/o any problems.

I know that others have used more w/o any issues, I wish I could say that same. I am just sharing my experience.

 

[warpyfunch]

I just wanted to share an experience I had with the Epiq PA. I grabbed a bunch of bottles in the BOGO and wanted to use them before their expiration date (just sayin). So I calculated # of softgels I had and divided by the # of days until the exp date. That came out to 8 per day. I had already taken 5 w/o any issues. Even so far as to take 5 along w/ 2+ TBS (heaping) of Soy Lecithin powder (roughly 35% denser than the granules, per TBS, according to my scale). Ok, so much for the history.

I took 8 the other day along with my PWO (same as with the 5 softgels w/ and w/o the SL), but this time within 30 minutes I was running to the bathroom. Nothing else changed for me except adding 50% more (3 more) softgels.

Since then I have taken 5 softgels w/ my PWO and also on a non-workout day in the morning before breakfast, all w/o any problems.

I know that others have used more w/o any issues, I wish I could say that same. I am just sharing my experience.

very odd, can't really imagine why 8 would give such a pronounced reaction when 5 + SL treated you fine. maybe this was an isolated case? try taking 8 again and see if the same things happen again?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

The granules may slow gastric emptying...Id try 8caps with a tbsp of granules. There is obviously much less fat content with mediator.

 

[Sparkss]

very odd, can't really imagine why 8 would give such a pronounced reaction when 5 + SL treated you fine. maybe this was an isolated case? try taking 8 again and see if the same things happen again?

The granules may slow gastric emptying...Id try 8caps with a tbsp of granules. There is obviously much less fat content with mediator.

TBH I am fine w/ sticking with just 5 softgels. As much as I would like to help out the community with shared experience, I do not want to chance another "experience" like the one I had w/ 8 softgels .

 

[khall1974]

Which gel caps

Piping rock

 

[kdubson14]

I take 8 EPIQ gels and 2 tbsp SL. My bathroom habits remain unchanged

 

[flexathron]

If you train fasted would you take phospha muscle pre (with pre workout) or post workout ?