IGF-1 Results from CJC-1295

chriswhat

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I just got back from the doctor. IGF-1 results 149ng/ml. Normal range is 106-255ng/ml. That is at 6mg e8d, plus I injected 1mg cjc-1295 and 300mcg ghrp-6 one-half hour before blood was drawn. Been on one month, started off at 2mg a week and increased dose to see if I could get HGH sides. You are definitely better off spending your money on HGH. It is too bad, I was hoping for better results.
 

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chriswhat said:
I just got back from the doctor. IGF-1 results 149ng/ml. Normal range is 106-255ng/ml. That is at 6mg e8d, plus I injected 1mg cjc-1295 and 300mcg ghrp-6 one-half hour before blood was drawn. Been on one month, started off at 2mg a week and increased dose to see if I could get HGH sides. You are definitely better off spending your money on HGH. It is too bad, I was hoping for better results.
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There are SO many flaws in the "logic" here it's unbelievable.

*sits back, kicks feet up and waits for Dat to go off the hook*.....*popped some popcorn too* :lol:
 
chriswhat said:
So I guess you are going to tell me that after one month I should not have elevated igf-1 levels?
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1) How can you determine what is elevated if you do not have a baseline control level?????

Do you have an IGF-1 reading before the protocol?

See, if your control reading is below normal, then 149mg/ml is elevated.

Example: My wife's IGF-1 reading is now 150ng/ml after using 2 iu of hGH. BUT! Here baseline levels were 72ng/ml... so....

2) Another point to look at if your baseline levels are within normal range would be the product you used. Do trust the product is what it should be, or it's quality, etc?


Pure speculation, but even if your control levels are below normal, I would still expect your dosages would raise your levels higher than 149ng/ml. So I believe that your stuff may be suspect.
I have seen IGF results of others on lower dosages of CJC who were in the 300+ range.
Like I said, without baseline levels or testing your product, who knows...
 
Bobaslaw said:
1) How can you determine what is elevated if you do not have a baseline control level?????

Do you have an IGF-1 reading before the protocol?

See, if your control reading is below normal, then 149mg/ml is elevated.

Example: My wife's IGF-1 reading is now 150ng/ml after using 2 iu of hGH. BUT! Here baseline levels were 72ng/ml... so....

2) Another point to look at if your baseline levels are within normal range would be the product you used. Do trust the product is what it should be, or it's quality, etc?


Pure speculation, but even if your levels are below normal, I would expect the dosages used to raise your levels higher than 149ng/ml. So I believe that your stuff may be suspect.
I have seen IGF results of others on lower dosages of CJC who were in teh 300+ range.
Like I said, without baseline levels or testing your product, who knows...
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MMM HMMMMM......
 
I have contacted several pharm testing companies, but since the SRCS fiasco nobody is willing to test for individuals.
 
Yes on the flushing/pressure. Especially when I initially started off with 2mg in one shot. Rather uncomfortable. Best sleep ever since beginning cjc.
 
chriswhat said:
Baseline levels were 141. Maybe it was bunk. Respected supplier though.
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8ng/ml is not considered significant and would be expected in normally fluctuating IGF-1 levels (+/-).

Given this information along with the dosages you are claiming you used, I DO NOT trust the product you were using from what I am hearing.

The fact is "real" CJC will raise your levels significantly at those dosages as seen in various clinical trials and numerous studies.

What I am concerned about is that you claim to have had the sides of flushing and such, so I am truly baffled at this point.
 
chriswhat said:
This chart is what I was comparing to.
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I find that chart extremely interesting. Why exactly is there almost no difference from 60mcg/kg to 150mcg/kg but a huge difference between 150mcg/kg and 250mcg/kg? DatBTrue every said anything about this? He's mentioned that he's messing with the doses and that CJC is definitely dose-dependent but what type of results would someone get from say 25mg/week?
 
java568 said:
I find that chart extremely interesting. Why exactly is there almost no difference from 60mcg/kg to 150mcg/kg but a huge difference between 150mcg/kg and 250mcg/kg? DatBTrue every said anything about this? He's mentioned that he's messing with the doses and that CJC is definitely dose-dependent but what type of results would someone get from say 25mg/week?
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Probably some bad-ass headaches. In one study I read there was basically no difference between 60mcg/kg and 90mcg/kg.
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java568 said:
I find that chart extremely interesting. Why exactly is there almost no difference from 60mcg/kg to 150mcg/kg but a huge difference between 150mcg/kg and 250mcg/kg? DatBTrue every said anything about this? He's mentioned that he's messing with the doses and that CJC is definitely dose-dependent but what type of results would someone get from say 25mg/week?
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Sometimes it just be that way.

Not satisfied with that answer then wait till I post up info that demonstrates that as you increase the dose level of synthetic GH to a high level the amount of "active" GH in plasma starts to diminish. Off hand I don't know the numbers but lets say 25iu of 22kDa is better then 30iu+ at any given dosing point in time.

Remember that in order for a hormone to exert an effect you need available receptors for them to bind to and mediate positive events.
 
papapumpsd said:
Very cool man! I, as many others, will love to see the results!

Can you share the lab's name?
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I will once my transaction has completed. I do not want a bunch of people hitting them up with requests to analyze peptides. It took emailing over a dozen labs around the world to find one that was willing. If this one had not done it I was going to go to a University and see if I could get them to check it out.
 
chriswhat said:
I will once my transaction has completed. I do not want a bunch of people hitting them up with requests to analyze peptides. It took emailing over a dozen labs around the world to find one that was willing. If this one had not done it I was going to go to a University and see if I could get them to check it out.
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Fair enough.

What type of lab are you talking about? I'm assuming a commerical analytic testing lab that specializes in oursourced testing/analysis?
 
datBtrue said:
Sometimes it just be that way.

Not satisfied with that answer then wait till I post up info that demonstrates that as you increase the dose level of synthetic GH to a high level the amount of "active" GH in plasma starts to diminish. Off hand I don't know the numbers but lets say 25iu of 22kDa is better then 30iu+ at any given dosing point in time.

Remember that in order for a hormone to exert an effect you need available receptors for them to bind to and mediate positive events.
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Oooh that'll be juicy. Have you found a point like that for CJC? ETA?
 
datBtrue said:
My name has been inappropriately use by chriswhat in relation to the legitimacy of a peptide.

There is no connection in any way, shape or form between chriswhat and Datbtrue.
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This is true, I simply quoted another member on here (with permission)that mentioned Dats' protocol in the quote. The information did not come from Dat.
 
I will let the results speak for themselves. Be very wary of your peptides purity.
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CHriswhat,
are you sure you are using right sequence, because a lot of people include myself bought cjc asuming they are buying long lasting version, as suppliers list it as cjc, but it is not ,it is modified version of GHRH that last for 30 minute or so.- if it doesnt have lysine linker at 30. position than it is not long lasting and you as myself has probably tried it at once a day injection asuming it is better than once a week !- but as it is not long lasting it only lasting for 30 minutes that is why you are not feeling results- that is why I jumped to 4xday dose with ghrp-6 and I can say that it is far,far,far better !!!

if you have right long lasting CJC ( other version what people selling and what I have is just little modified version of GHRH )and you are not getting effects -:jaw:
 
popica said:
CHriswhat,
are you sure you are using right sequence, because a lot of people include myself bought cjc asuming they are buying long lasting version, as suppliers list it as cjc, but it is not ,it is modified version of GHRH that last for 30 minute or so.- if it doesnt have lysine linker at 30. position than it is not long lasting and you as myself has probably tried it at once a day injection asuming it is better than once a week !- but as it is not long lasting it only lasting for 30 minutes that is why you are not feeling results- that is why I jumped to 4xday dose with ghrp-6 and I can say that it is far,far,far better !!!

if you have right long lasting CJC ( other version what people selling and what I have is just little modified version of GHRH )and you are not getting effects -:jaw:
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Did you not look at the URLs? It's obvious he has the tetrasubstituted GHRH, even though he thought he had purchased CJC-1295.
 
Pop,

You seem to be running around like a chicken without his head....

This is the 2nd thread I have seen you make a similar incorrect observation. The 1st time was with the CJC representation in Dat's thread today.

It's OK bro, just take a deep breath and get a hold of yourself. The sky is still definitely "real", and by no means is it falling. ;)
 
Bobaslaw :rofl::rofl::rofl:, I know, I allready said I made mistake in the other post so go ahead and see for yourself. btw I just wanted to expres other things that you are so smartie about, meantime finding the best solution to run ghrh tetrasubstituted myself.
 
cjc igf-1 results for me

I used zrt lab blood spot testing for igf-1.

Used 2mg per dose twice a week for two weeks.

Initial: 176
After cjc: 256

I felt great and slept great. Waking up in the morning I felt fantastic. Unreal really.
 
Pardon my ignorance but if the release is pulsatile then how are you going to measure the true amplitude of IGF-1 release?
 
Cosmonaut said:
Pardon my ignorance but if the release is pulsatile then how are you going to measure the true amplitude of IGF-1 release?
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You misunderstand.

GH levels are pulsitile and vary greatly within a 24 hour period.
IGF-1 levels are quite stable and change gradually in response to "overall" changes in GH levels...

This is the reason IGF-1 levels are one of the 1st tests used in determining a possible GH deficiency.
 
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