kisaj
Legend
Everyone questioned it at first and thought it was all hype. Then they actually tried it...
If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo
- Thread starter Touey
- Start date
Everyone questioned it at first and thought it was all hype. Then they actually tried it...
Joshlm69
Well-known member
Im like the worlds biggest hardgainer
. I write all their training programs, help them train, help them by supps, they are all genetically gifted. Im not giving away the one thing Ive got left, haha
hardwork25
Well-known member
I'm going to start making chicks buy me a bottle before they get to sleep with me.
hurdlemaker
Well-known member
hahahaha, just text them a link to wherever it's available at the time
brundel
Board Sponsor
I know one thing.....the next product I release with insane statements regarding its effect...there will be alot more people who believe me
urosinho10
New member
I know one thing.....the next product I release with insane statements regarding its effect...there will be alot more people who believe me
I smell some follidrone 2.0
brundel
Board Sponsor
I smell some follidrone 2.0
No I wouldnt hold your breath for this.
Currently Follidrone is the best natural supplement on earth. We wont change it unless there is good reason.
There ARE some other interesting things happening right now though.
ITs gonna blow your guys minds.
Good luck cloning these ones
ma70
Well-known member
No I wouldnt hold your breath for this.
Currently Follidrone is the best natural supplement on earth. We wont change it unless there is good reason.
There ARE some other interesting things happening right now though.
ITs gonna blow your guys minds.
Good luck cloning these ones
My big bulk starts this November, so hopefully you get things running along
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
No I wouldnt hold your breath for this.
Currently Follidrone is the best natural supplement on earth. We wont change it unless there is good reason.
There ARE some other interesting things happening right now though.
ITs gonna blow your guys minds.
Good luck cloning these ones
Do you have a time frame on the new things?
brundel
Board Sponsor
No.
It takes a long time for things like this.
First I have to discover chemicals in nature that do what we want. This ia harder than you might think especially because these days all of the low lying fruit has been taken. So you really have to search...I mean like old bookstores and college libraries.
Then you have to obtain the raw plant. This can be extremely difficult if for example you want to source a rare plant from the african jungle or somewhere deep in thailand or whatever. Getting some plant material from there...easy...getting the right one...almost impossible. You need to have serious contacts and guys who have international networks setup to import these types of raws.
Work to extract the proper chemical. This is tough without a standard and for lots of obscure compounds there is no standard to work with.
Once we have the actual chemical from either extraction or synthesis we need to give it to dozens of people to see how it effects them.
Run blood test
log all kinds of things
alter dose and chem combos etc etc...Its gotta be badass or we are not gonna use it.
I have a handful of new goodies at the lab. We will start testing this week on 2 new products with another 3rd which has been in testing for the last couple weeks with pretty impressive results. Better than expected which is awesome.
We are working on a pre workout and I can tell you one thing for sure....its not gonna be your run of the mill trendy pwo.
This is gonna rock your world.
Everyone says "the best PWO IN THE WORLD!!!". As you know this is almost always not the case. Pretty much every PWO is just like all the others.
Look at how many PWOs there are out there that are marketing as this giant breakthrough and then its
agmatine
citrulline
beta a
caff
huperzine
creatine
vitamin b12
amp citrate (or whatever cheap stim China is pushing that week )
synephrine
etc
Your better off buying bulk powders and making your own than paying top dollar for this type of thing.
Ours will be different.
It takes a long time for things like this.
First I have to discover chemicals in nature that do what we want. This ia harder than you might think especially because these days all of the low lying fruit has been taken. So you really have to search...I mean like old bookstores and college libraries.
Then you have to obtain the raw plant. This can be extremely difficult if for example you want to source a rare plant from the african jungle or somewhere deep in thailand or whatever. Getting some plant material from there...easy...getting the right one...almost impossible. You need to have serious contacts and guys who have international networks setup to import these types of raws.
Work to extract the proper chemical. This is tough without a standard and for lots of obscure compounds there is no standard to work with.
Once we have the actual chemical from either extraction or synthesis we need to give it to dozens of people to see how it effects them.
Run blood test
log all kinds of things
alter dose and chem combos etc etc...Its gotta be badass or we are not gonna use it.
I have a handful of new goodies at the lab. We will start testing this week on 2 new products with another 3rd which has been in testing for the last couple weeks with pretty impressive results. Better than expected which is awesome.
We are working on a pre workout and I can tell you one thing for sure....its not gonna be your run of the mill trendy pwo.
This is gonna rock your world.
Everyone says "the best PWO IN THE WORLD!!!". As you know this is almost always not the case. Pretty much every PWO is just like all the others.
Look at how many PWOs there are out there that are marketing as this giant breakthrough and then its
agmatine
citrulline
beta a
caff
huperzine
creatine
vitamin b12
amp citrate (or whatever cheap stim China is pushing that week )
synephrine
etc
Your better off buying bulk powders and making your own than paying top dollar for this type of thing.
Ours will be different.
urosinho10
New member
No I wouldnt hold your breath for this.
Currently Follidrone is the best natural supplement on earth. We wont change it unless there is good reason.
There ARE some other interesting things happening right now though.
ITs gonna blow your guys minds.
Good luck cloning these ones
Do you think it will compare to follidrone or even be better? If yes then that is insane. Soon natural bbers will outgrow enhanced ones
brundel
Board Sponsor
Do you think it will compare to follidrone or even be better? If yes then that is insane. Soon natural bbers will outgrow enhanced ones
Its not the same type of product.
They are very different so not comparable. With regards to how awesome it is. Yes FD grade.
Danabols
New member
Lol solid plan, my gf bought me my first bottle of folli. On week 4 now.
urosinho10
New member
How are your results so far?
Touey
Well-known member
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I started Follidrone after being on nothing else for months other than a basic pre-workout; speaking to sports nutrition
supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.
Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.
I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and
Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it
altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is
transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,
I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.
the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide
update on feelings about week 5
after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant
In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity, feelings about week 6
there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone
week 7
there has been not the slightest abatement in any of the positives aforementioned. Of special note, now workouts are becoming more singular; calf day has become a day unto its own the intensity is such on that one area that's enough of a workout, and indeed I feel like I've been through a thorough workout at that, whereas I've never before had a single day devoted to calves and had the kind of intensity I do now.
Concerning body composition really seeing the results now in week 7 more than in any other so far, in a way I wish I'd taken before and after simply for documentaries sake. One thing I've felt which ought perhaps to be mentioned is the nice way which the compound's profound effect on workouts helps wellness and generally feeling better throughout the weeks I've been on, although as we all know taking this compound in this fashion is relatively new and I am not saying there may not occur some negative side from taking this long term in the future.
week 8
I was wondering if the same thing that happened in week 4 would happen in week 8 and it has. Same as in week four "body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up"
it's been light weights and high reps week 8. I don't like it, but there we are, when something is really working you'll notice this. Otherwise all your workouts would be the same no ups and downs but also no growth; it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5
week 8.5
Tentative Follidrone dosing scheme
week 1 - on
week 2- on
week3 - on
week4 - off "no Follidrone" - very light weight; don't workout the body parts which are sore at all
week 5- on
week 6- on
week 7- on
week 8- off ......
week 9-on
week 10-on
week 11-on
week 12-off
week 13-on
week 14-on
week 15-on
week 16 -off
etc.
I find Follidrone works quite fast felt it upon starting, I believe giving your body a break every forth week is crucial on this.
A break from Follidrone during this week will be the ideal time, I am confident that you will keep the gains made from the previous three weeks during these forth week breaks.
I think this is perhaps the ideal way to dose Follidrone. I don't think the forth week is necessarily "the week" for everyone to take off. It may be every fifth week etc. for you.
i.e. the dosing protocol needn't be "every 4th week" for some the deload / break from follidrone may be the 8th week....on seven weeks off every 8th week, everyone is different...your body will let you know the week believe me.Invalid Link Removed
For me it happens to be the forth, I've found my body needs a deload week / break from Follidrone
"Do I feel like taking that week off was mainly about physically recovering from the increased volume/intensity during the follidrone phase, or did stopping the follidrone during that time also allow you to avoid any tolerance and remain more sensitive to its effects?" --both
week 9
"it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5"
Honestly it took a bit of patience having to wait and see if Follidrone would rebound in week 9 as in week five.
In the back of my mind I knew there was a chance the dosing scheme would not work, hence the reason I used words like tentative and confident instead of certain or sure. It has worked though just as in week 5.
I am up roughly 30% in actual weight able to lift now in week 9 from week 1, transformative recomp, still way less HIIT than normal as the workouts on it are such that I've had to cut HIIT way down to get my resting heart rate to normal. The hunger at the end of deload week 8 was very high.
week 10
The longer I'm on the more I've noticed you needn't get overly concerned with lifting high amounts of weight to build loads muscle on Follidrone. Pay attention to form, focus, use variation techniques and you'll do very well building substantial muscle on this.
week 11
I have never seriously recommended anything because no difference has been made much by any natty for me, maybe the little pump from agmatine etc.
I am tempted to have these caps tested because it does not feel natty to me. If the integrity of the quality for
the product does not slip and the exact same ingredient in the same dosages are continued on the same as that
which I am taking now it will be something I will always keep on hand
the aforementioned initial post has remained true, the integrity has indeed not slipped even if it may have been easy to have let it in efforts to bring raws to market fast of lesser quality, I've only used Folloidrone (-)-epi;
the various reviews made under my name for (-)-epi or other products are fictionalized by I know not whom. I've never formerly reviewed a product on NP nor any other supplement store site.
nearly 3 months in and the evaluation of good dry muscle tissue is exceptional. The progression made with the compound is such that each week diminishing returns are virtually non-existent, as long as I've taken the week break from (-)-epi during each deload week.
A negative factor if indeed it would be such is an inability to keep up with HIIT due to the extra time spent in workout sessions, intensity, general volume. I've had to restrict HIIT by half to get my resting heart rate to normal
week 12 -3 Months
An overview of 3 months on Follidrone puts to mind one very key thing; after 3 Months of taking any compound generally ones enthusiasm abates a bit.
However upon seeing such cumulative results such as finding muscles one knew not were there, increased appetite; more the past week than in the whole run, yet still gaining whilst leaning it's not difficult to remain curious.
This is deload / break from Follidrone week I've slept, then slept, and slept some more; 10 hours last night, 9 the previous.
I am afraid if you do not assimilate this much needed protocol of breaking from Follidrone during these deloads it will be a bit like spinning your wheels; the bodies not a machine contrary to what some may think. You can't simply keep adding more fuel expecting it to remain at high speeds.
the composition itself does not cause hunger, the appetite increase is simply a response of the body in an effort to fulfill the demands placed on it from the results of (-)-epi
I started Follidrone after being on nothing else for months other than a basic pre-workout; speaking to sports nutrition
supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.
Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.
I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and
Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it
altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is
transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,
I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.
the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide
update on feelings about week 5
after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant
In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity, feelings about week 6
there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone
week 7
there has been not the slightest abatement in any of the positives aforementioned. Of special note, now workouts are becoming more singular; calf day has become a day unto its own the intensity is such on that one area that's enough of a workout, and indeed I feel like I've been through a thorough workout at that, whereas I've never before had a single day devoted to calves and had the kind of intensity I do now.
Concerning body composition really seeing the results now in week 7 more than in any other so far, in a way I wish I'd taken before and after simply for documentaries sake. One thing I've felt which ought perhaps to be mentioned is the nice way which the compound's profound effect on workouts helps wellness and generally feeling better throughout the weeks I've been on, although as we all know taking this compound in this fashion is relatively new and I am not saying there may not occur some negative side from taking this long term in the future.
week 8
I was wondering if the same thing that happened in week 4 would happen in week 8 and it has. Same as in week four "body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up"
it's been light weights and high reps week 8. I don't like it, but there we are, when something is really working you'll notice this. Otherwise all your workouts would be the same no ups and downs but also no growth; it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5
week 8.5
Tentative Follidrone dosing scheme
week 1 - on
week 2- on
week3 - on
week4 - off "no Follidrone" - very light weight; don't workout the body parts which are sore at all
week 5- on
week 6- on
week 7- on
week 8- off ......
week 9-on
week 10-on
week 11-on
week 12-off
week 13-on
week 14-on
week 15-on
week 16 -off
etc.
I find Follidrone works quite fast felt it upon starting, I believe giving your body a break every forth week is crucial on this.
A break from Follidrone during this week will be the ideal time, I am confident that you will keep the gains made from the previous three weeks during these forth week breaks.
I think this is perhaps the ideal way to dose Follidrone. I don't think the forth week is necessarily "the week" for everyone to take off. It may be every fifth week etc. for you.
i.e. the dosing protocol needn't be "every 4th week" for some the deload / break from follidrone may be the 8th week....on seven weeks off every 8th week, everyone is different...your body will let you know the week believe me.Invalid Link Removed
For me it happens to be the forth, I've found my body needs a deload week / break from Follidrone
"Do I feel like taking that week off was mainly about physically recovering from the increased volume/intensity during the follidrone phase, or did stopping the follidrone during that time also allow you to avoid any tolerance and remain more sensitive to its effects?" --both
week 9
"it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5"
Honestly it took a bit of patience having to wait and see if Follidrone would rebound in week 9 as in week five.
In the back of my mind I knew there was a chance the dosing scheme would not work, hence the reason I used words like tentative and confident instead of certain or sure. It has worked though just as in week 5.
I am up roughly 30% in actual weight able to lift now in week 9 from week 1, transformative recomp, still way less HIIT than normal as the workouts on it are such that I've had to cut HIIT way down to get my resting heart rate to normal. The hunger at the end of deload week 8 was very high.
week 10
The longer I'm on the more I've noticed you needn't get overly concerned with lifting high amounts of weight to build loads muscle on Follidrone. Pay attention to form, focus, use variation techniques and you'll do very well building substantial muscle on this.
week 11
I have never seriously recommended anything because no difference has been made much by any natty for me, maybe the little pump from agmatine etc.
I am tempted to have these caps tested because it does not feel natty to me. If the integrity of the quality for
the product does not slip and the exact same ingredient in the same dosages are continued on the same as that
which I am taking now it will be something I will always keep on hand
the aforementioned initial post has remained true, the integrity has indeed not slipped even if it may have been easy to have let it in efforts to bring raws to market fast of lesser quality, I've only used Folloidrone (-)-epi;
the various reviews made under my name for (-)-epi or other products are fictionalized by I know not whom. I've never formerly reviewed a product on NP nor any other supplement store site.
nearly 3 months in and the evaluation of good dry muscle tissue is exceptional. The progression made with the compound is such that each week diminishing returns are virtually non-existent, as long as I've taken the week break from (-)-epi during each deload week.
A negative factor if indeed it would be such is an inability to keep up with HIIT due to the extra time spent in workout sessions, intensity, general volume. I've had to restrict HIIT by half to get my resting heart rate to normal
week 12 -3 Months
An overview of 3 months on Follidrone puts to mind one very key thing; after 3 Months of taking any compound generally ones enthusiasm abates a bit.
However upon seeing such cumulative results such as finding muscles one knew not were there, increased appetite; more the past week than in the whole run, yet still gaining whilst leaning it's not difficult to remain curious.
This is deload / break from Follidrone week I've slept, then slept, and slept some more; 10 hours last night, 9 the previous.
I am afraid if you do not assimilate this much needed protocol of breaking from Follidrone during these deloads it will be a bit like spinning your wheels; the bodies not a machine contrary to what some may think. You can't simply keep adding more fuel expecting it to remain at high speeds.
the composition itself does not cause hunger, the appetite increase is simply a response of the body in an effort to fulfill the demands placed on it from the results of (-)-epi
week 13
It is always nice to be back after deloading. I've wondered if the great feeling after workouts is attributed to the composition itself or the great workouts which Follidrone results in.
After over 3 months and thinking about what would help folks in understanding long term dosing and how one may get a better handle on Follidrone; a better understanding of the composition. I think it is important to note with any composition you've got to change up your training.
Why is there so much turn over on these forums? People become interested in "bodybuilding" reach a peak hit PRs plateau then become discouraged finally giving up.
What makes it worse is the ads and marketing slogans, "Become a machine, not to be used unless you're a bodybuilder! top secret formula explosive gains!" Combined with reckless post / advise
The reality is it takes more patience than many things such as golf and even chess. It is no sprint rather a marathon. Constantly chasing PRs, continually using the same routine and expecting new lean gains all the time will get you no where.
I don't mean you've got to create totally new routines, slight variations will do well; different challenging angles even if there be a drop in volume.
This is the way to go about creating a physique that will continue to change and advance through the years.
Although it indeed takes patience, it's something which may benefit throughout ones life if understood properly.
Although it indeed takes patience, it's something which may benefit throughout ones life if understood properly.
brundel
Board Sponsor
I think as you start to grow you just feel better.
When you take something you know is anabolic and are expecting strength and muscle gains it feels pretty good
Like when you start a cycle. Same thing except its a natty cycle.
There are just not that many natty supps that are anabolic enough to give you this feeling.
When you take something you know is anabolic and are expecting strength and muscle gains it feels pretty good
Like when you start a cycle. Same thing except its a natty cycle.
There are just not that many natty supps that are anabolic enough to give you this feeling.
urosinho10
New member
This. Just knowing it makes you feel like the man and is one of the best placebo feelings.
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
When do you take it? Morning or around workouts?
Joshlm69
Well-known member
At the mo ive been taking it upon waking.
From monday, Ill take 1 upon waking, and 1 20mins PWO. I'll have formeron on hand at 1 pump a day to counter any e2 that may rise from the extra 10mg of boron
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
At the mo ive been taking it upon waking.
From monday, Ill take 1 upon waking, and 1 20mins PWO. I'll have formeron on hand at 1 pump a day to counter any e2 that may rise from the extra 10mg of boron
Right on. Let us all know how it goes.
Joshlm69
Well-known member
Will be updating it all in my log mate, come join
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
Cool.
Touey
Well-known member
I think as you start to grow you just feel better.
When you take something you know is anabolic and are expecting strength and muscle gains it feels pretty good
Like when you start a cycle. Same thing except its a natty cycle.
There are just not that many natty supps that are anabolic enough to give you this feeling.
I think it a combination of both, upon taking an overview of general health I feel Follidrone is life enhancing regarding physiological well being, which is a bit surprising; singularly since this is not the chief benefit one looks for.
Contaygious
Active member
Looking forward to this! The last different pre was craze though and that was a
Bit TOO different since it got banned lol. Hopefully, it yours has some solid ingredients too
And not just some crazy intense stim.
Whacked
Well-known member
Dang
toddmuelheim
Well-known member
I'm hitting 5 reps on weights that are 40 lbs above my previous 1RM squat max. I am just approaching the 2 month mark.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Whould you attribute this to Follidrone?
do you normally add 5 lbs a week to your squat?
urosinho10
New member
What is your previous max? Just want to calculate the total increased weight you can lift.
urosinho10
New member
There is no way this could not be attributed to follidrone, except ofcourse if he is using some superdrol aswell.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Lol I know I just like to point this out.
There are still a few stragglers who say well this just happens when your training.
Sorry...no it doesnt.
If you increased 5lbs per week and this was indefinite you would be lifting mack trucks and spinning them like basketballs after a decade or so of training.
A newbie trainer gains rapidly yes but it plateaus quickly and after a while it takes alot to force muscle growth.
This is why we use anabolic supplements...because it DOESNT happen otherwise lol.
5lbs seems insignificant as well but its realy not.
40lbs increase in a dead lift or BP on any cycle is legit.
toddmuelheim
Well-known member
There is nothing else that I am currently taking that I haven't taken on more than one occasion before, except for Viron. (Erase, bcaa, protein) I wasn't on Viron when these changes were occurring, so i don't know what else it could be. I am in my thirties, so it sure as hell isn't puberty.
The jump in weight is ridiculous and hasn't happened since I first started lifting.
toddmuelheim
Well-known member
295->335. I've been training using the mountain dog programs or a very similar offshoot for 3 years or so. I'm not a teenager so there's only so much I try and push to these days, but weights that were recently challenging are now very easy, so I just added some weight to the bar. That's the weird thing...I never "felt" an alpha feeling, or anything else special for that matter. I just go to the gym, do my reps, and they're much easier than they are supposed to be. It's pretty cool.
toddmuelheim
Well-known member
I've never tried ph/AAS. Id love to hear a comparison against follidrone as I'm curious as to how it stacks up.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Lol lets hope its not puberty
Just stoked to see it working.
I endured alot of criticism initially as you guys know ( everything from being called a liar to insanity to even a racial slur on another forum lol). ...but I stood my ground because I knew this stuff was legit.
Now, even after hundreds of people have stated that its the best supp they have taken or that its comparable to a PH
or etc etc....even still Every time I see someone else who is having a kick ass cycle of Follidrone it makes me smile
urosinho10
New member
Exactly, but the craziest thing here is that it wasn't 5 lbs, over 8 weeks he increased it by approx. 100 lbs so it's actually an amazing 12.5 lbs every week.
urosinho10
New member
I have read a lot of logs from people using very strong prohormones and steroids and follidrone compares to a lot of them to say the least wich is absolutely insane. The funniest thing is even though your results are amazing, when it comes to follidrone, they are actually pretty average. People talk about creatine but this makes creatine look like a complete joke. Nothing natural so far comes even close to this.
