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If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo

Seems like you need more people to explain this: Nobody is complaining you retard, except for you, ironically.Also, it's very hard to make someone look stupid when you're a retard yourself, so please for your own good give that up.
 
Interesting stuff right here... Transport and metabolism of the tea flavonoid (-)-epicatechin by the human intestinal cell line Caco-2

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urosinho10 said:
Seems like you need more people to explain this: Nobody is complaining you retard, except for you, ironically.Also, it's very hard to make someone look stupid when you're a retard yourself, so please for your own good give that up.
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ok there's no need to go making daft post calling folks retards
 
You understand that calling people retards only serves to diminish your stance. This is a thread about Follidrone and not a thread for this stupid bickering. Want to have a great thread shut down- keep it up.

Please smarten up, folks.
 
This thread is probably gonna go bye bye with the name calling.
 
kisaj said:
He doesn't need to leave, he contributes like everyone else. What needs to stop is all the back and forth crap.
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im not telling him to leave i'm just pointing out that if he doesn't like people overly critiquing supplements (complaining according to him) then he shouldnt be on a forum dedicated to it.
 
kisaj said:
You understand that calling people retards only serves to diminish your stance. This is a thread about Follidrone and not a thread for this stupid bickering. Want to have a great thread shut down- keep it up.

Please smarten up, folks.
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No it doesn't some people are retarded
 
My point was stop worrying soooo much about improving a product u just started taking. A lot of u have been taking follidrone less than 3 weeks and are very concerned with improving it already. My point was it works great! Just take it for the time being and give brundel the time he needs to work on absorption instead of guessing different ways to improve absorption. That is all.
 
mtinsideout said:
Interesting stuff right here... Transport and metabolism of the tea flavonoid (-)-epicatechin by the human intestinal cell line Caco-2

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Would TUDCA help absorption or am I reading this wrong??

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Folli is absolutely amazing. I'm finishing up my 2nd month now, and I'm setting PRs almost every single time I work out.

Currently I'm stacking it with EC and TTA to cut and I'm leaning out while gaining strength.

Hopefully in a few weeks I can finally hit my long term goal I had set of a 495 lb deadlift. On a cut!!
 
Yeah buddy, that is great to hear. I can't stop even on off days like today was supposed to be. I knew I was going golfing this afternoon with clients and if I hit the gym, it messes up my game so I just went and did kb swings. 10 x 20 @ 65lbs w/ 20sec rest. 65lbs doesn't sound like anything, but when you do 200 of them, it is a body crusher.
 
kisaj said:
Yeah buddy, that is great to hear. I can't stop even on off days like today was supposed to be. I knew I was going golfing this afternoon with clients and if I hit the gym, it messes up my game so I just went and did kb swings. 10 x 20 @ 65lbs w/ 20sec rest. 65lbs doesn't sound like anything, but when you do 200 of them, it is a body crusher.
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i just got done playing 18 holes, gotta go lift back in a little bit haha
 
Sorry to bump this but is anyone notice back pumps? Getting them pretty bad on squats and reads gonna grab taurine just wanna see if anyone notices the same. Two caps 30-45m pre wo
 
Swolbraham said:
Sorry to bump this but is anyone notice back pumps? Getting them pretty bad on squats and reads gonna grab taurine just wanna see if anyone notices the same. Two caps 30-45m pre wo
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Yeah I had lower back pumps when I upped the volume on my Deadlifts.
 
ma70 said:
Not crazy pumps but I felt it a little bit. Also could be form breaking down too, but I was just trying to give my input anyway.
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haha I was jk man, I haven't gotten bad back pumps, thank goodness, but I did almost tear my right pec on Monday, it was weird because I was still warming up when it happened
 
Who else has these GainZ!!! I damn sure do and love it! Picking up cardio and lifting PRs every other week that blast past last years! Complain all ya want I'm getting mines and swear everyone should try out the same.

On that note, who's actually picked up their cardio while using Folli? How do you feel afterwards?
 
TheMovement said:
Who else has these GainZ!!! I damn sure do and love it! Picking up cardio and lifting PRs every other week that blast past last years! Complain all ya want I'm getting mines and swear everyone should try out the same. On that note, who's actually picked up their cardio while using Folli? How do you feel afterwards?
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i did no cardio before, since I've been taking it I've added 45min 6 days a week, it's honestly easy haha, I just stop because 45 is enough, I'm drenched in sweat and I don't wanna burn much more than that
 
Outside of my long rides on the bike (mostly getting list on trails) my sprint work has gotten better. I've kept it to 3-4 days a week and the sweats are noticeable. He'll the sauna seems more ridiculous lol
 
TheMovement said:
Who else has these GainZ!!! I damn sure do and love it! Picking up cardio and lifting PRs every other week that blast past last years! Complain all ya want I'm getting mines and swear everyone should try out the same.

On that note, who's actually picked up their cardio while using Folli? How do you feel afterwards?
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Bro, cardio has gone up beyond compression since Folli. I do HIIT 6 days a week now on top of lifting and that comes from 4 days. On top of that , I've been riding 60-80 miles a week. I could never do that and hitting PRs before. Overall health is better than ever.
 
kisaj said:
Man, we played 36 and I am toast. Buddy joined a country club and I am reaping the benefits of him paying a lot of money. Lol
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what state are u in? I just joined a new clubhouse last week in southwest Florida, it's so brutally hot playing right now tho, it's almost unbearable at times haha
 
kisaj said:
I'm in Colorado. We've had a real mild summer with few days in the 90s, so it has been really nice.
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Ever played cherry hills? I'm headed up to vail next week for a corporate retreat. We will golf quite a bit, and I heard the courses are brutal.

What part of CO are you from?
 
raekwonse said:
Folli is absolutely amazing. I'm finishing up my 2nd month now, and I'm setting PRs almost every single time I work out.

Currently I'm stacking it with EC and TTA to cut and I'm leaning out while gaining strength.

Hopefully in a few weeks I can finally hit my long term goal I had set of a 495 lb deadlift. On a cut!!
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Is that 2 mos. Of consecutive use?
 
Yeah, I have enough for 5 months straight right now. Still not sure whether I should cycle this. Hopefully it can be a staple like creatine.
 
I am in SW Littleton now, but we've generally lived around the Denver area. I've never played Cherry Hills, but just about everywhere else. You'll absolutely fall in love with the Vail area- especially this time of year.
 
Touey said:
I started Follidrone after being on nothing else for months other than a basic pre-workout; speaking to sports nutrition

supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.

Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.

I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and

Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it

altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is

transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,

I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.


the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide






update on feelings about week 5

after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant







In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity, feelings about week 6

there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone





week 7

there has been not the slightest abatement in any of the positives aforementioned. Of special note, now workouts are becoming more singular; calf day has become a day unto its own the intensity is such on that one area that's enough of a workout, and indeed I feel like I've been through a thorough workout at that, whereas I've never before had a single day devoted to calves and had the kind of intensity I do now.

Concerning body composition really seeing the results now in week 7 more than in any other so far, in a way I wish I'd taken before and after simply for documentaries sake. One thing I've felt which ought perhaps to be mentioned is the nice way which the compound's profound effect on workouts helps wellness and generally feeling better throughout the weeks I've been on, although as we all know taking this compound in this fashion is relatively new and I am not saying there may not occur some negative side from taking this long term in the future.









week 8

I was wondering if the same thing that happened in week 4 would happen in week 8 and it has. Same as in week four "body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up"

it's been light weights and high reps week 8. I don't like it, but there we are, when something is really working you'll notice this. Otherwise all your workouts would be the same no ups and downs but also no growth; it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5






week 8.5


Tentative Follidrone dosing scheme

week 1 - on
week 2- on
week3 - on
week4 - off "no Follidrone" - very light weight; don't workout the body parts which are sore at all

week 5- on
week 6- on
week 7- on
week 8- off ......

week 9-on
week 10-on
week 11-on
week 12-off

week 13-on
week 14-on
week 15-on
week 16 -off

etc.





I find Follidrone works quite fast felt it upon starting, I believe giving your body a break every forth week is crucial on this.



A break from Follidrone during this week will be the ideal time, I am confident that you will keep the gains made from the previous three weeks during these forth week breaks.



I think this is perhaps the ideal way to dose Follidrone. I don't think the forth week is necessarily "the week" for everyone to take off. It may be every fifth week etc. for you.

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For me it happens to be the forth, I've found my body needs a deload week / break from Follidrone





"Do I feel like taking that week off was mainly about physically recovering from the increased volume/intensity during the follidrone phase, or did stopping the follidrone during that time also allow you to avoid any tolerance and remain more sensitive to its effects?" --both





week 9

"it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5"





Honestly it took a bit of patience having to wait and see if Follidrone would rebound in week 9 as in week five.

In the back of my mind I knew there was a chance the dosing scheme would not work, hence the reason I used words like tentative and confident instead of certain or sure. It has worked though just as in week 5.

I am up roughly 30% in actual weight able to lift now in week 9 from week 1, transformative recomp, still way less HIIT than normal as the workouts on it are such that I've had to cut HIIT way down to get my resting heart rate to normal. The hunger at the end of deload week 8 was very high.






week 10


The longer I'm on the more I've noticed you needn't get overly concerned with lifting high amounts of weight to build loads muscle on Follidrone. Pay attention to form, focus, use variation techniques and you'll do very well building substantial muscle on this.







week 11



I have never seriously recommended anything because no difference has been made much by any natty for me, maybe the little pump from agmatine etc.

I am tempted to have these caps tested because it does not feel natty to me. If the integrity of the quality for

the product does not slip and the exact same ingredient in the same dosages are continued on the same as that

which I am taking now it will be something I will always keep on hand


the aforementioned initial post has remained true, the integrity has indeed not slipped even if it may have been easy to have let it in efforts to bring raws to market fast of lesser quality, I've only used Folloidrone (-)-epi;

the various reviews made under my name for (-)-epi or other products are fictionalized by I know not whom. I've never formerly reviewed a product on NP nor any other supplement store site.

nearly 3 months in and the evaluation of good dry muscle tissue is exceptional. The progression made with the compound is such that each week diminishing returns are virtually non-existent, as long as I've taken the week break from (-)-epi during each deload week.

A negative factor if indeed it would be such is an inability to keep up with HIIT due to the extra time spent in workout sessions, intensity, general volume. I've had to restrict HIIT by half to get my resting heart rate to normal
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week 12 -3 Months

An overview of 3 months on Follidrone puts to mind one very key thing; after 3 Months of taking any compound generally ones enthusiasm abates a bit.

However upon seeing such cumulative results such as finding muscles one knew not were there, increased appetite; more the past week than in the whole run, yet still gaining whilst leaning it's not difficult to remain curious.

This is deload / break from Follidrone week I've slept, then slept, and slept some more; 10 hours last night, 9 the previous.

I am afraid if you do not assimilate this much needed protocol of breaking from Follidrone during these deloads it will be a bit like spinning your wheels; the bodies not a machine contrary to what some may think. You can't simply keep adding more fuel expecting it to remain at high speeds.
 
addendum: the composition itself does not cause hunger, the appetite increase is simply a response of the body in an effort to fulfill the demands placed on it from the results of (-)-epi
 
niiiice nice
 
If you're one such as kisaj and take Follidrone in the morning, no food would best, if you're typical of the majority and find substantial benefits in taking two 30 min. pre it'll not make any difference to have eaten a small snack within the hour of taking Follidrone. If you workout fasted by all means right you go an empty stomach shall do nicely.
 
Just for clarity, I work out in the mornings and take it about 60 min prior with no food. I train on 10g BCAAs, folli, and rhodiola, then have a hefty shake right after.
 
Yeah, I workout at 4 AM in the morning so my dosage is pretty much 2 scoops of BCAAs, 2 Follidrone, and then I go to the gym.
 
Why no food may I ask? I've been taking 2 caps 30-45m pre wo, finished eating carb + pro meal of about 400-450 cals 30 minutes prior to folli dosage.
 
Really it is because I don't like to eat a meal before working out in the morning, but also I noticed the effects more. When I did my first run, I started taking it with food and switched to no food and found my workouts were much more intense.
 
Swolbraham said:
Why no food may I ask? I've been taking 2 caps 30-45m pre wo, finished eating carb + pro meal of about 400-450 cals 30 minutes prior to folli dosage.
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Not sure if you were asking him or me, but I'll reply anyway. 4 AM is pretty early and I can't wake up earlier than that just to eat haha.
 
kisaj said:
Really it is because I don't like to eat a meal before working out in the morning, but also I noticed the effects more. When I did my first run, I started taking it with food and switched to no food and found my workouts were much more intense.
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Hmmm okok. I'll try to eat a tad earlier see if there's a difference thanks bud
 
Swolbraham said:
Why no food may I ask? I've been taking 2 caps 30-45m pre wo, finished eating carb + pro meal of about 400-450 cals 30 minutes prior to folli dosage.
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kisaj said:
Really it is because I don't like to eat a meal before working out in the morning, but also I noticed the effects more. When I did my first run, I started taking it with food and switched to no food and found my workouts were much more intense.
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I've noted less effects on 400-450 cals as well, though not on say 200 cals. and find workouts always less productive in a rather fasted state. Obviously these are not hard and fast rules everyone is different
 
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