urosinho10
New member
That sounds awesome, but since you're doubling your volume you should need much more recovery, does follidrone speed up your recovery aswell?
If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo
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Joshlm69
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In between sets you recover much quicker, you have the feeling of being up very high, kind of like what you would imagine on the top of a hill, the air seems much cleaner in your lungs if you get me.
After the first couple of days of follidrone, I was definitely more lethargic as my body wasn't used too it, but by day 3 my body had adapted.
You just dont let yourself slack, so many times you say to yourself in a session "this sucks, i wana go home", but you feel so much better once youve put in all the volume you planned
urosinho10
New member
Man I gotta get me some real soon.
Joshlm69
Well-known member
I noticed follidrone within 30 minutes of taking it
fightnews
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Phosphatidic acid is also like this if you haven't tried it? That stuff is legit
fightnews
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ya its very impressive, Not to mention when was the last time you saw companies rushing to put out their own versions like this?
fightnews
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I noticed a strong sense of well being today that I attributed to the folli
fightnews
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Ya I did as well, pretty awesome feeling, cant wait for my next dose.
Anyone saying its Placebo can bite me, As I said I've used 1000 supplements with high hopes and noticed nothing. Most recently clear muscle but there are plenty of others. Why didn't I have placebo for those?
Joshlm69
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Im the same, the amount of money I've wasted on empty promises. Follidrone gains are in your hands, you will gain as much or as little as the volume you put in, they go hand in hand. so if you want it enough, follidrone is the natural substitute to gear, in my opinion.
I'm up 3.2kg in 2 weeks, from training and eating. placebo, ok bro, haha
fat % is also definitely down
fightnews
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Im cutting right now but im not super strict about it, ill prob gain a few pounds in the next couple weeks. You should try Phosphatidic acid bro. I cant wait to get more so I can stack them. I lifted earlier and Im doing a 2nd boxing workout in a couple hours. cant wait, tomorrow supposed to be my rest day and im already thinking of skipping it. I know its good for me though
kisaj
Legend
Some of the first testers were commenting on this and noticed it in the first 1-3 days. I think I may have, but was forcing myself not to think about it. It is only going to get better from here. Just wait in the next couple weeks how quickly you recover and never feel like you've had enough.
fightnews
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Nice im pumped how did you guys even find this stuff?
Touey
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Invalid Link Removed Charlie I mean Brundel took a bit of a spill at the factory, so one could say it was quite by chance or better still luck
kisaj
Legend
Brundel is somewhat of a supplement genius and doesn't like to follow what anyone else is doing so he is always on the outlook for what's next. He told us early months before it came out that he had something revolutionary up his sleeve and wouldn't spill the beans, but asked if some of us that were loyal to the brand if we'd be willing to try it without knowing what it was. A number of us agreed and were blown away and then he told us what it was.
Touey
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it seems 90% are looking for innovative marketing approaches than innovative products or products that work
Mission1
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This ^^^^^
hurdlemaker
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possibly all the studies coming out about (-)-epi...
hurdlemaker
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i had actually read the (-)-epi studies, didn't know it would be this amazing tho, I've been looking into inhibiting myostatin for a while tho. The one human study in particular got my interest. Not to take anything away from brundel, he's awesome and I give him a lot of props for introducing folli and his customer service is fantastic, the guy def knows his stuff.
ELROCK
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The truth! I couldnt have put it better myself.
fightnews
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can you link some human studies?
hurdlemaker
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look at "BLACK LION RESEARCH NEW PRODUCT INTRO SALE!!! FOLLIDRONE"
Touey
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I started Follidrone after being on nothing else for months other than a basic pre-workout; speaking to sports nutrition
supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.
Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.
I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and
Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it
altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is
transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,
I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.
the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide
update on feelings about week 5
after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant
In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity, feelings about week 6
there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone
week 7
there has been not the slightest abatement in any of the positives aforementioned. Of special note, now workouts are becoming more singular; calf day has become a day unto its own the intensity is such on that one area that's enough of a workout, and indeed I feel like I've been through a thorough workout at that, whereas I've never before had a single day devoted to calves and had the kind of intensity I do now.
Concerning body composition really seeing the results now in week 7 more than in any other so far, in a way I wish I'd taken before and after simply for documentaries sake. One thing I've felt which ought perhaps to be mentioned is the nice way which the compound's profound effect on workouts helps wellness and generally feeling better throughout the weeks I've been on, although as we all know taking this compound in this fashion is relatively new and I am not saying there may not occur some negative side from taking this long term in the future.
week 8
I was wondering if the same thing that happened in week 4 would happen in week 8 and it has. Same as in week four "body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up"
it's been light weights and high reps week 8. I don't like it, but there we are, when something is really working you'll notice this. Otherwise all your workouts would be the same no ups and downs but also no growth; it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5
week 8.5
Tentative Follidrone dosing scheme
week 1 - on
week 2- on
week3 - on
week4 - off "no Follidrone" - very light weight; don't workout the body parts which are sore at all
week 5- on
week 6- on
week 7- on
week 8- off ......
week 9-on
week 10-on
week 11-on
week 12-off
week 13-on
week 14-on
week 15-on
week 16 -off
etc.
I find Follidrone works quite fast felt it upon starting, I believe giving your body a break every forth week is crucial on this.
A break from Follidrone during this week will be the ideal time, I am confident that you will keep the gains made from the previous three weeks during these forth week breaks.
I think this is perhaps the ideal way to dose Follidrone. I don't think the forth week is necessarily "the week" for everyone to take off. It may be every fifth week etc. for you.
i.e. the dosing protocol needn't be "every 4th week" for some the deload / break from follidrone may be the 8th week....on seven weeks off every 8th week, everyone is different...your body will let you know the week believe me.Invalid Link Removed
For me it happens to be the forth, I've found my body needs a deload week / break from Follidrone
"Do I feel like taking that week off was mainly about physically recovering from the increased volume/intensity during the follidrone phase, or did stopping the follidrone during that time also allow you to avoid any tolerance and remain more sensitive to its effects?" --both
week 9
"it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5"
Honestly it took a bit of patience having to wait and see if Follidrone would rebound in week 9 as in week five.
In the back of my mind I knew there was a chance the dosing scheme would not work, hence the reason I used words like tentative and confident instead of certain or sure. It has worked though just as in week 5.
I am up roughly 30% in actual weight able to lift now in week 9 from week 1, transformative recomp, still way less HIIT than normal as the workouts on it are such that I've had to cut HIIT way down to get my resting heart rate to normal. The hunger at the end of deload week 8 was very high.
week 10
The longer I'm on the more I've noticed you needn't get overly concerned with lifting high amounts of weight to build loads muscle on Follidrone. Pay attention to form, focus, use variation techniques and you'll do very well building substantial muscle on this.
week 11
I have never seriously recommended anything because no difference has been made much by any natty for me, maybe the little pump from agmatine etc.
I am tempted to have these caps tested because it does not feel natty to me. If the integrity of the quality for
the product does not slip and the exact same ingredient in the same dosages are continued on the same as that
which I am taking now it will be something I will always keep on hand
the aforementioned initial post has remained true, the integrity has indeed not slipped even if it may have been easy to have let it in efforts to bring raws to market fast of lesser quality, I've only used Folloidrone (-)-epi;
the various reviews made under my name for (-)-epi or other products are fictionalized by I know not whom. I've never formerly reviewed a product on NP nor any other supplement store site.
nearly 3 months in and the evaluation of good dry muscle tissue is exceptional. The progression made with the compound is such that each week diminishing returns are virtually non-existent, as long as I've taken the week break from (-)-epi during each deload week.
A negative factor if indeed it would be such is an inability to keep up with HIIT due to the extra time spent in workout sessions, intensity, general volume. I've had to restrict HIIT by half to get my resting heart rate to normal
supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.
Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.
I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and
Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it
altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is
transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,
I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.
the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide
update on feelings about week 5
after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant
In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity, feelings about week 6
there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone
week 7
there has been not the slightest abatement in any of the positives aforementioned. Of special note, now workouts are becoming more singular; calf day has become a day unto its own the intensity is such on that one area that's enough of a workout, and indeed I feel like I've been through a thorough workout at that, whereas I've never before had a single day devoted to calves and had the kind of intensity I do now.
Concerning body composition really seeing the results now in week 7 more than in any other so far, in a way I wish I'd taken before and after simply for documentaries sake. One thing I've felt which ought perhaps to be mentioned is the nice way which the compound's profound effect on workouts helps wellness and generally feeling better throughout the weeks I've been on, although as we all know taking this compound in this fashion is relatively new and I am not saying there may not occur some negative side from taking this long term in the future.
week 8
I was wondering if the same thing that happened in week 4 would happen in week 8 and it has. Same as in week four "body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up"
it's been light weights and high reps week 8. I don't like it, but there we are, when something is really working you'll notice this. Otherwise all your workouts would be the same no ups and downs but also no growth; it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5
week 8.5
Tentative Follidrone dosing scheme
week 1 - on
week 2- on
week3 - on
week4 - off "no Follidrone" - very light weight; don't workout the body parts which are sore at all
week 5- on
week 6- on
week 7- on
week 8- off ......
week 9-on
week 10-on
week 11-on
week 12-off
week 13-on
week 14-on
week 15-on
week 16 -off
etc.
I find Follidrone works quite fast felt it upon starting, I believe giving your body a break every forth week is crucial on this.
A break from Follidrone during this week will be the ideal time, I am confident that you will keep the gains made from the previous three weeks during these forth week breaks.
I think this is perhaps the ideal way to dose Follidrone. I don't think the forth week is necessarily "the week" for everyone to take off. It may be every fifth week etc. for you.
i.e. the dosing protocol needn't be "every 4th week" for some the deload / break from follidrone may be the 8th week....on seven weeks off every 8th week, everyone is different...your body will let you know the week believe me.Invalid Link Removed
For me it happens to be the forth, I've found my body needs a deload week / break from Follidrone
"Do I feel like taking that week off was mainly about physically recovering from the increased volume/intensity during the follidrone phase, or did stopping the follidrone during that time also allow you to avoid any tolerance and remain more sensitive to its effects?" --both
week 9
"it will interesting to see if the rebound into week 9 is of the same magnitude as that into week 5"
Honestly it took a bit of patience having to wait and see if Follidrone would rebound in week 9 as in week five.
In the back of my mind I knew there was a chance the dosing scheme would not work, hence the reason I used words like tentative and confident instead of certain or sure. It has worked though just as in week 5.
I am up roughly 30% in actual weight able to lift now in week 9 from week 1, transformative recomp, still way less HIIT than normal as the workouts on it are such that I've had to cut HIIT way down to get my resting heart rate to normal. The hunger at the end of deload week 8 was very high.
week 10
The longer I'm on the more I've noticed you needn't get overly concerned with lifting high amounts of weight to build loads muscle on Follidrone. Pay attention to form, focus, use variation techniques and you'll do very well building substantial muscle on this.
week 11
I have never seriously recommended anything because no difference has been made much by any natty for me, maybe the little pump from agmatine etc.
I am tempted to have these caps tested because it does not feel natty to me. If the integrity of the quality for
the product does not slip and the exact same ingredient in the same dosages are continued on the same as that
which I am taking now it will be something I will always keep on hand
the aforementioned initial post has remained true, the integrity has indeed not slipped even if it may have been easy to have let it in efforts to bring raws to market fast of lesser quality, I've only used Folloidrone (-)-epi;
the various reviews made under my name for (-)-epi or other products are fictionalized by I know not whom. I've never formerly reviewed a product on NP nor any other supplement store site.
nearly 3 months in and the evaluation of good dry muscle tissue is exceptional. The progression made with the compound is such that each week diminishing returns are virtually non-existent, as long as I've taken the week break from (-)-epi during each deload week.
A negative factor if indeed it would be such is an inability to keep up with HIIT due to the extra time spent in workout sessions, intensity, general volume. I've had to restrict HIIT by half to get my resting heart rate to normal
mtinsideout
Well-known member
Was looking up something and stumbled on this article about (-)-epi and quercetin... Hope you all find it interesting
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Danabols
New member
Surprised more people ain't talking about ways to improve bioavailability. I been taking mine with xfactor vitamin c. Going add some other stuff like quercetin and that black.pepper extract. Its know these things improve green tea absorption. I'm hoping that xfactor helps absorption heaps like fish oil does for green tea.
I'm at week 2 just starting to see strength increases. Doubt it will double my volume. Even 30% increase would be mad same with even 10-20% increase in strength.
I do recon I'll hit 3.5 times body weight squat soon.
I added follidrone to the start of a blast test, deca and bit of slin.
I have gained 5-7kgs and no it not all bloat from DECA I still look as lean before. Not saying most of its not glucose filling my muslces but still its the fastest I have gained. I only used slin a few times at 10iu.
Would love to see what GH adding to skin and follidrone would do. Adding dbol to my morning dose tomo see how that works out... Great I imagine.
I'm hoping the mad gains continue.
Haven't noticed any more endurance in fact I'm pretty lethargic and sleeping heaps. Feels like I'm a heavy oral. Lol
When this new version of follidrone coming out? Hope its got a better solution to bioavailability than other epic products (which I have ordered since follidrone was out stock will compare soon) and what I'm taking.
Not planning on doing any deload just upping my dose to have more around workout and more spread out.
ATM I take one upon waking with xfactor vitamin c etc. Fasted. Then I take one more prewo also with xfactor bit c etc. Also empty stomach. I also read that artifical sugar may be helpful not as.much as vit c and fish oil but still more that's not wasted the better. I recon because I'm on aas I'll have more lowered follistatin increase myo because that's what if level do I believe.
I'm at week 2 just starting to see strength increases. Doubt it will double my volume. Even 30% increase would be mad same with even 10-20% increase in strength.
I do recon I'll hit 3.5 times body weight squat soon.
I added follidrone to the start of a blast test, deca and bit of slin.
I have gained 5-7kgs and no it not all bloat from DECA I still look as lean before. Not saying most of its not glucose filling my muslces but still its the fastest I have gained. I only used slin a few times at 10iu.
Would love to see what GH adding to skin and follidrone would do. Adding dbol to my morning dose tomo see how that works out... Great I imagine.
I'm hoping the mad gains continue.
Haven't noticed any more endurance in fact I'm pretty lethargic and sleeping heaps. Feels like I'm a heavy oral. Lol
When this new version of follidrone coming out? Hope its got a better solution to bioavailability than other epic products (which I have ordered since follidrone was out stock will compare soon) and what I'm taking.
Not planning on doing any deload just upping my dose to have more around workout and more spread out.
ATM I take one upon waking with xfactor vitamin c etc. Fasted. Then I take one more prewo also with xfactor bit c etc. Also empty stomach. I also read that artifical sugar may be helpful not as.much as vit c and fish oil but still more that's not wasted the better. I recon because I'm on aas I'll have more lowered follistatin increase myo because that's what if level do I believe.
fightnews
Well-known member
If anything take it with grapefruit juice, Thats the thing that really increases absorption of most things
brundel
Board Sponsor
We are testing absorption enhancement.
Be patient. We are not just gonns throw it in there so it looks good. I want to see a significant difference.
Until i see for 100% certain that we can make the product better (not just add absorption to say we did)
I wont do anything.
There is no plan currently for a change.
If our trials go well ill let you guys know.
For now enjoy the current version as there is no other natty supp that compares.
Be patient. We are not just gonns throw it in there so it looks good. I want to see a significant difference.
Until i see for 100% certain that we can make the product better (not just add absorption to say we did)
I wont do anything.
There is no plan currently for a change.
If our trials go well ill let you guys know.
For now enjoy the current version as there is no other natty supp that compares.
brundel
Board Sponsor
I never said anything about grapefruit.
Im not saying anything at all.
Once We have run testing and I know if things work or not then Ill start to talk about it openly.
Either way Follidrone already kicks ass.
Danabols
New member
Nah someone else did I had a lol.
Makes sense brundel test it properly first and not say anything. I dunno how your going to test these things but there are heaps of studies out there about green tea bioavailability absorption etc. But nearly everyone uses fish oil and vit c so its easy for people to try this. Milk may also effect absorption.
Let's hope when this follidrone v2.0 comes out there is plenty of stock.
Makes sense brundel test it properly first and not say anything. I dunno how your going to test these things but there are heaps of studies out there about green tea bioavailability absorption etc. But nearly everyone uses fish oil and vit c so its easy for people to try this. Milk may also effect absorption.
Let's hope when this follidrone v2.0 comes out there is plenty of stock.
Joshlm69
Well-known member
So youre saying absorption of follidrone could increase with drinking orange juice or taking fish oil pre workout with follidrone?
hurdlemaker
Well-known member
Why is everyone sooooo hung up on increasing absorption, this stuff works great, just eat it u stoopids
Joshlm69
Well-known member
Why would you be satisfied with $100, when you could change a small few variables and end up with $200?
kbayne
Legend
Don't take fish oil pre-workout.
hurdlemaker
Well-known member
why am I satisfied with a $50 product that delivers?? Is this for real? What else delivers results anywhere like this for $50? A vial of test? Lol. I mean come on. Is it you people being cheap or just wanting more results? If ur just cheap start working harder, if u want more results take AAS lol. For now this product works great, less complaints and more gains people.
fightnews
Well-known member
I said maybe it will work lighten up
fightnews
Well-known member
I second this opinion
hurdlemaker
Well-known member
thats ok josh, why don't u worry about things like absorption of a product that already works well less and spend more time lifting, prepping meals and sleeping. All the complaints about products get irritating, or maybe how much emphasis people put on a supplement when it's merely there to HELP them reach there goals, not MAKE them reach their goals. People focus soooo much on stupid **** like this and lose the big picture. Why worry so much about improving a new product that clearly works? Good luck absorbing ur crisps! And I never said u were bashing follidrone btw, just merely saying to stop complaining and enjoy it, oh and fish oils preworkout are a great idea, keep using that superior brain
kisaj
Legend
I really hope this can stop quickly. We know FD is the best epi product going now and Brundel is looking to see if it can work even better. That's all. You know he is going to be testing and checking everything as always and we will all win in the end. Until then, there is no point in arguing.
hurdlemaker
Well-known member
thanks again josh! I'll try to get my brain to work better for u buddy, and I'll work on the way I look! Proof read some next time as to not come off like a wanker.
Joshlm69
Well-known member
For everyone else viewing - follidrone is awesome - buy it
fightnews
Well-known member
Comes into a supplement forum complaining about people critiquing supps, nice logic why dont you leavethats ok josh, why don't u worry about things like absorption of a product that already works well less and spend more time lifting, prepping meals and sleeping. All the complaints about products get irritating, or maybe how much emphasis people put on a supplement when it's merely there to HELP them reach there goals, not MAKE them reach their goals. People focus soooo much on stupid **** like this and lose the big picture. Why worry so much about improving a new product that clearly works? Good luck absorbing ur crisps! And I never said u were bashing follidrone btw, just merely saying to stop complaining and enjoy it, oh and fish oils preworkout are a great idea, keep using that superior brain
urosinho10
New member
Lol that has to be the most retarded logic ever. So you're basically saying that if something is great, why improve it further? Like brundel said, he isn't gonna charge us even a single extra cent and that he will change it only if it is significantly better. Do you have a problem with this? Lol