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If FOLLIDRONE is bunk & results R placebo Ill take placebo

Joshlm69 said:
To be Honest I already have really bad joint pain in my elbows when I sleep, always seem to cramp up a lot, so maybe ArA isn't for me and I should just stick to folli. Question is, do I stack follidrone with ABE (new or old formula? Or stack it with Mass 550?
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Either.
I would recommend giving it a 30 day trial solo first though.

I am a big supporter of ABE and will be doing that exact stack soon, but I have not yet tried 550.

550 is actually on its way, but will be tried out solo. Like I said, best to run things solo and give them an honest test to see if they deliver
 
Driven2lift said:
Based on...?
Internet forum hype?

TBH the king of muscle building is lifting heavy and eating to grow.

Supplements are nice to try out on top, and if you look around AM you will see people swearing by tons of products. Follidrone, ARA, Anabeta, Prime, etc.

We give too much credit to the supplements and need to remember they are a very small percentage of the reason we improve.

That said there are supplements that do work. Best way to judge is to try it for yourself. I have found several to benefit me, as we are in a Folli thread I will say that is definitely one of them.

Try it for yourself and try to stay objective. Monitor results closely, this will save your wallet in the future as it rules out supplements that are just hype.

I have a nice pile of supplements I won't bother using.

The ones I have found through experience to work I stock up on and cycle between.

Folli is now one of those
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Good post. I wish I had that mentality when I was 24. I started lifting at 17 and packed on 35lbs over the course of 4-5 years with lifting and eating, then bought into the supplement hype for a solid 10 years. I spent many thousands of dollars chasing the next thing. Some I liked, most were a waste of money.

All that said, Follidrone is one of the few that are sitting at the top for a reason. Very little marketing and mainly word of mouth because people see that it actually really works and want to let others know about it. In a sea of choices, it's a nice change.
 
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I agree that youll probably want to take them apart. One being highly inflammatory and one being an anti inflammatory they may interact negatively. Unsure but since Follidrone works so well there is no need to risk it.
I also agree that the primary bulking tool is food.
One thing Ive learned.....to be a monster you have to eat like one. Like...uncomfortable food intake. Eating is a job.
 
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I started Follidrone after being on nothing else for months other than a basic pre-workout; speaking to sports nutrition

supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.

Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.

I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and

Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it

altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is

transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,

I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.


the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide






update on feelings about week 5

after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant







In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity, feelings about week 6

there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone
 
kisaj said:
I was a big fan of Anabeta and saw nice bulking results. I imagine a stack with FD would be incredible.
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i hope the folli i bought is much better than anabeta cause anabeta gave me zero results!most overhyped product on this very pes friendly board imho
 
Yeah nothing from anabeta. Would love to compare folli to other otc products, if I could just get my hands on it.
 
Touey said:
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I started Follidrone after being on nothing else for months other than a basic pre-workout; speaking to sports nutrition

supplements not the normal supplements I take for health.

Strength-pumps-endurance all up 40% first 3 weeks. I am in week 4 and noticing my body is wanting to go but the previous 3 weeks has taken a toll and I feel my body needs to catch up.

I've had to reorganize my routine the biggest thing being limiting shoulders to once a week instead of Tue. and

Fri. some of the worst doms ever but in a good way. I don't notice anything from the egcg. I am going to stop taking it

altogether.I feel that week 5 will be brilliant because I think my body will have "caught up". This supplement is

transfomative on body composition - I check the scale every six months but gaining while leaning is what's happening,

I'm very adept in sensing what is going on with my body.


the fun thing about the product though are the unbelievable workouts, seriously shocked after some of these sessions when I muse over what 2 little marginal half filled caps provide






update on feelings about week 5

after recovering in week four, week 5 is on par with the first 3 weeks, difference being weight lifted in first 3 weeks now is even lighter... going up with ease, having now to add more weight. Body recomp. with this supplement continues to be brilliant







In an effort to keep some semblance of continuity feelings about week 6

there has been so far no diminishing of positive results - most notable about week 6, weight lifted has increased the most dramatically of all the weeks so far, I believe all the extra calories consumed to keep up with the demand on the body are important to note... don't be afraid to eat on this stuff, what's brilliant is the continuation of virtually all gain being lean mass. In all seriousness never thought the amount of weight lifted would be possible on a natty alone
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It's amazing how well you write English now
 
Just finished my ARA 2 bottles + PeakBeta. Noticed great pump and strength from the first bottle but all that faded away when I went trough the second bottle wieerd and quite disappointing I must say. I even added the glycer mono and ALCAR for the better effects of ARA as recommended. So now its follidrones turn when it comes in stock, it the depends which comes first in my mail since I'm gonna try USPLabs Compound 20 since that's should also be a great product.
 
5 days in on follidrone and endurance is definitely up! Already able to add a significant amount more volume to my workouts. Excited to see what the whole 8 week run brings!
 
would like to see before and after pics if you can do that ;)
 
Today was day 6 and if this is placebo I'll take 2!!!

Chest day

Started with Incline dumbbell press

Normal routine:
70x12, 80x10, 90x8, 95x6, 100x2-4

Today with follidrone:
70x16, 80x15, 90x13, 100x12, 110x10, 120x6(for ****s and giggles)

My counts were odd because I was taken by surprise by my muscle endurance.

120 is the heaviest dumbbell in this gym and my lifting buddies were like wtf. I've never done more than 100lb dumbbells on incline even when I was 15lbs heavier.

It was a good day
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
imma do it, currently on week 1 of CM that I won in a contest. Debating on CM for 12 and Folli 16 but wanna save the Folli for a reverse diet and bulk. Love that it can be run for a long time unlike pH/ds
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Do it bro. I'm debating making follidrone a staple product for me. I'm only 6 days in but I'm really liking my TMG+follidrone cycle and may just run it year round
 
rphash49 said:
Today was day 6 and if this is placebo I'll take 2!!! Chest day Started with Incline dumbbell press Normal routine: 70x12, 80x10, 90x8, 95x6, 100x2-4 Today with follidrone: 70x16, 80x15, 90x13, 100x12, 110x10, 120x6(for ****s and giggles) My counts were odd because I was taken by surprise by my muscle endurance. 120 is the heaviest dumbbell in this gym and my lifting buddies were like wtf. I've never done more than 100lb dumbbells on incline even when I was 15lbs heavier. It was a good day
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crazy increases
 
I have some serious questions about this product.

First of all,
How is this natural? The results make it sound extremely unnatural

Does this, scientifically speaking, have ANY chance of causing gyno? Not whether or not anyone has gotten gyno from it yet, but is it even possible from the way the chemical works in your body? The only thing I understand about this product is that it works in reducing myostatin. I am extremely prone to gyno, that is why im asking.

Thanks in advance for answers
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
It says it's "non-hormonal". How is this possible? Can someone please explain to me what's going on scientifically. Thanks.
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someone might have the time to do this, not me as I'm about to go to bed, I think it's actually been discussed in this exact thread twice or more if u want to look back and read, but as reps4jesus said there is no risk of gyno
 
brundel said:
I agree that youll probably want to take them apart. One being highly inflammatory and one being an anti inflammatory they may interact negatively. Unsure but since Follidrone works so well there is no need to risk it.
I also agree that the primary bulking tool is food.
One thing Ive learned.....to be a monster you have to eat like one. Like...uncomfortable food intake. Eating is a job.
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Any word on when Nutraplanet will be stocked again? At this point I don't even know if they have had it again or not as it seems to sell out in like 5 minutes... it is getting frustrating to read so much about it and still be SOL as far a getting my hands on it. Guess it works as well as the claims, tho
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
It says it's "non-hormonal". How is this possible? Can someone please explain to me what's going on scientifically. Thanks.
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There is a lot of studies made on rats. But we humans are no damn rats. :D

I think there is one study for humans which showed 7% increase in hand grip strength.

Some of the claims in this thread sound to good to be true, but well I guess you have to try and found out for yourself.
 
hurdlemaker said:
someone might have the time to do this, not me as I'm about to go to bed, I think it's actually been discussed in this exact thread twice or more if u want to look back and read, but as reps4jesus said there is no risk of gyno
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Lmao same here man! I could have said more...but I'm tired. So someone else can. I'm going to bed ;)
 
Pec.Major said:
Some of the claims in this thread sound to good to be true, but well I guess you have to try and found out for yourself.
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I don't disagree on the "to good to be true" claims. Maybe my workout was a fluke idk. We will see how my workouts continue. Today is back and biceps.
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
It says it's "non-hormonal". How is this possible? Can someone please explain to me what's going on scientifically. Thanks.
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There's a gigantic thread in the BLR forum that has a lot of answers you're looking for. It's natural/non hormonal and it's been logged by many people (most unsponsored, including me), some of which are considered very honest/trustworthy on these forums.
 
100% non hormonal

I'm nit comfortable sharing my bloodwork but as part of ongoing treatment I'm having I've had it done bi-weekly for months now. No changes to any hormone levels in my 5 weeks if Folli so far.

Just in case you needed reassurance.
Kisaj posted up his bloodwork as well
 
It is non hormonal and I have before and after blood work. I also tested total, free, SHBG, and e2. All numbers were in line with what I normally get every 3 months.

I understand it is difficult after 66 pages, but we are going over the same Q+A multiple times now in multiple threads. I appreciate everyone trying to answer every question that is coming up as I am sure Brundel can't keep doing it over and over.
 
Lol I was thinking that the other day.
Hard to stay on top as a BLR rep, Folli is popping up randomly all over the place and Formestane pops up regularly in assorted Anabolic threads as well as natural.

Good for BLR, a maze for you and Brundel
 
kisaj said:
It is non hormonal and I have before and after blood work. I also tested total, free, SHBG, and e2. All numbers were in line with what I normally get every 3 months. I understand it is difficult after 66 pages, but we are going over the same Q+A multiple times now in multiple threads. I appreciate everyone trying to answer every question that is coming up as I am sure Brundel can't keep doing it over and over.
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its a community man, and for the most part the ones that have been here for a while and actively participate are here to help
 
Thanks man, it is true. I know we are doing our best to keep up with Q+A, and trying to post things that people can search to hopefully find their answer, but I realize it isn't always enough.

Much appreciation for all of you helping with your own experiences!
 
kisaj said:
Thanks man, it is true. I know we are doing our best to keep up with Q+A, and trying to post things that people can search to hopefully find their answer, but I realize it isn't always enough.

Much appreciation for all of you helping with your own experiences!
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you should be happy people are so inquisitive about your products mate, it really shows what a positive response all of your supplements are getting. the more people asking questions, the more people interested, the higher amount of word of mouth, which ultimately means a better rep for your company and more $$$ in your pocket.

I know its frustrating to answer the same Q/A over and over, and i definitely attributed to asking you questions which have probably been asked before, but hell, its because we are all so damn excited to get our hands on your product!
 
No one said I wasn't happy. I am telling you I appreciate the assist as it is difficult to keep up. Also to remind others that the answers are out there in the threads already.
 
Joshlm69 said:
I know its frustrating to answer the same Q/A over and over, and i definitely attributed to asking you questions which have probably been asked before, but hell, its because we are all so damn excited to get our hands on your product!
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This is just me, but when I am truly interested in something and excited, I read as much as I can and absorb as much as I can prior to asking a question.
 
cubs1987 said:
This is just me, but when I am truly interested in something and excited, I read as much as I can and absorb as much as I can prior to asking a question.
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Same. I dive into a topic and can go at it for days on end. I usually end up calling my doc and/or endo to run things by them and get their take, then go back to studying. It's a passion.
 
rphash49 said:
Today was day 6 and if this is placebo I'll take 2!!!

Chest day

Started with Incline dumbbell press

Normal routine:
70x12, 80x10, 90x8, 95x6, 100x2-4

Today with follidrone:
70x16, 80x15, 90x13, 100x12, 110x10, 120x6(for ****s and giggles)

My counts were odd because I was taken by surprise by my muscle endurance.

120 is the heaviest dumbbell in this gym and my lifting buddies were like wtf. I've never done more than 100lb dumbbells on incline even when I was 15lbs heavier.

It was a good day
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This is nuts!......remember when I said guys gained 20lbs on DB presses.....everyone thought I was crazy or lying.
Seems like some people REALLY get a punch from the Follidrone.

1 week/ 20lbs db increase......Anything natural out there that can even come close?
Not that I know of.
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
Soooooo can this be taken for 16 weeks...
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Initially I was leery until I saw some bloodwork. Kasaj confirmed that only positive effects are happening.
HDL up
Triglycerides down.

Otherwise no change. RUn it as long as you like.
 
tyrub42 said:
Any word on when Nutraplanet will be stocked again? At this point I don't even know if they have had it again or not as it seems to sell out in like 5 minutes... it is getting frustrating to read so much about it and still be SOL as far a getting my hands on it. Guess it works as well as the claims, tho
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NP will have stock again in about 10 days or so. This time things will be more spread out.
I have 75 units at the shop. Our top 2 retailers on our where to buy page at BLR.com will both get stock shipped today although minimal.
 
And....yes...being present on the forums is a full time Job on top of my normal BLR responsibilities.
Its worth it I think though. Id rather be here personally so you guys have accurate information and can ask me directly.
You also get to know me a bit and who I am which helps. THis way your not just seeing an odd bottle with crazy claims.
You see the R&D, I talk about research and dev probably too much but insight into what we are doing helps guys become interested in the science and the products as they are released.
The best thing about having these huge threads is there is just so much info. If you want to know if Follidrone works.....there are dozens of reports and examples.
 
brundel said:
And....yes...being present on the forums is a full time Job on top of my normal BLR responsibilities.
Its worth it I think though. Id rather be here personally so you guys have accurate information and can ask me directly.
You also get to know me a bit and who I am which helps. THis way your not just seeing an odd bottle with crazy claims.
You see the R&D, I talk about research and dev probably too much but insight into what we are doing helps guys become interested in the science and the products as they are released.
The best thing about having these huge threads is there is just so much info. If you want to know if Follidrone works.....there are dozens of reports and examples.
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Strong post Brundel.
 
brundel said:
This is nuts!......remember when I said guys gained 20lbs on DB presses.....everyone thought I was crazy or lying.
Seems like some people REALLY get a punch from the Follidrone.

1 week/ 20lbs db increase......Anything natural out there that can even come close?
Not that I know of.
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I've never had a week 1/20lb db increase on hormonal cycles so I'm still in a bit of shock on yesterdays workout on this natural cycle.

I hope my 36yr old tendons and ligaments can hold up to the added reps and weight
 
rphash49 said:
I've never had a week 1/20lb db increase on hormonal cycles so I'm still in a bit of shock on yesterdays workout on this natural cycle.
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Im starting to think the increase in endurance allows guys to have more fuel in the tank.
So when you get to your top end your not as taxed as you normally would be so your able to handle more.
 
rphash49 said:
I've never had a week 1/20lb db increase on hormonal cycles so I'm still in a bit of shock on yesterdays workout on this natural cycle.

I hope my 36yr old tendons and ligaments can hold up to the added reps and weight
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Cissus is key for me at 40. My mind and muscles can go like never before, but need to keep the joints nice and healthy.
 
brundel said:
Im starting to think the increase in endurance allows guys to have more fuel in the tank.
So when you get to your top end your not as taxed as you normally would be so your able to handle more.
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What was kind of weird at the end of my work out was I didn't feel exhausted. After 2hrs(90min is the norm) my muscles were spent but I still had overall energy/endurance to jeep going. Usually my muscles are spent after 90min and I'm completely exhausted...... Hard to explain.
 
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