arena
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i have only been on AP for a couple days but its given me the same pump effect as superdrol, which is sick. what receptors does it affect. i just hope it wont shut me down. if not, this stuff is the ****.
crankchest
New member
I am on my second week, The pump I get from ap is not like NO its very cool!! I feel thinner in the mid section. Great so far!!
canadian champ
Active member
arena said:
You're going to be happy to hear that it does not affect any receptors and causes no shutdown. Enjoy!!
cc
arena
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rpen22 said:
i know its not advertised as an androgen. i just hope it isnt an androgen in disguise
browndustin
Member
Pretty gosh darn amazing eh?
It took a couple of days or a week or so before I got the strong pumps in the gym, but they keep on getting better. MUCH harder like everyone else reports (very relieved) and yeah... just intense pumps. I love it.
It took a couple of days or a week or so before I got the strong pumps in the gym, but they keep on getting better. MUCH harder like everyone else reports (very relieved) and yeah... just intense pumps. I love it.
dtrain13
Well-known member
arena said:
I know what you mean, this is from my log/review on bb.com.
Oh an BTW for your own peace of mind I'm on day 14 and my nuts are working just fine.
Day 5: Dosage protocol: same as day 4 (am, midday and preworkout)
Workout: Shoulders/delts/lats
Anecdotal thoughts: Starting to get some good pumps while training something I hadn't really noticed until know. Strength and stamina seem to be improving. With the glycogen loading of AP and the volumizing effects of CE2 I feel completely jacked (sorry thats the best I could come up with,). And to PU12, the best way I can describe how this feels is something like when X-Factor kicks in ( I know you took that) or when on a cycle of something, SD, PP etc. In that you have that constant pump going on. Weight is up three pounds but I feel like I'm loosing some of my midsection I recently added. Also you will find yourself hungrier than normal, at least I do.
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Nooner said:
Hmm interesting...
Did you revert back to regular dose after the high dose?
Nooner
New member
USPLabs said:
What I'm talking about is the stacking some people do, like with the Halodrol and Superdrol. I did SD at 2 for the first week, 3 for the second, then 4 for the 3rd and 4th weeks, then switched to something else for the remainder of the cycle (I can't remember what it was stacked with now, been a year). To many pills for me to do that again.
I just want to know that 1 pill a day gets the results and not some crazy pile of pills just to get me to buy more... That's all...
Dutchman
Active member
I get the full pump with the regular dose. This morning, I took my first cap for the day expecting to have breakfast 15 minutes later but something came up and I was delayed almost an hour. I did start to get a little shaky but shortly after I ate I felt fine. What was interesting and apparently not normal was I had a very strong libido boost. Soon thereafter I felt really pumped. An hour later I did my Drol (I am finishing a cycle) and drove off to the gym. My workout followed the same pattern I have experienced the last 5 weeks since I started adding AP. It now takes longer to get up to full strength and approach max lifts. Its strange for example: last Friday I maxed out at 8 reps on triceps pushdowns with 10 plates. After that however I was able to do Smith Machine Close Grip BPs with 10 X 225, 8 X 250 and 6 X 275, feeling strong the whole way. Today again I did not feel strong on my first big exercise, Smith Machine BPs only hitting 1 X 295 before chickening out but I still raised my machine flys to 8 X 180 and my rack extensions to 5 X 5(secs holds) at 335. The pattern is a somehow slow start and then like a quiet exceptional strength. Now granted I am an Old Fart at 65 but I find the strength and Libido results worth reporting. It is perhaps also worth noting that I am sleeping better these last 3 weeks as well perhaps also due somehow to the AP. There have been NO other changes to my routine which I have used repeatedly for a couple years now so I am well aware of my body's responses.
dtrain13
Well-known member
Nooner said:
LOL....first off AP is not a hormone based product like those mentioned. It greatly enhances glycogen replenishment via insulin and more specific something called GLUT4. The comparison some including myself are making is that the results and how you feel while using are reminiscent of an androgen cycle but without all the negatives associated with it. Not to mention AP is actually good for you and doesn't need to be cycled. And it works just fine at the recommended dose of 3 caps daily.
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Dutchman said:
HOLY SHET old timer with new timer strength! I have a new hero!
Second have you tried PowerFULL?
Dutchman
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USPLabs said:
Yes, I love it. My version of a natural stack which I typically run for about 8 weeks in between cycles is as follows. I use CEE and AAKG with megadoses of Cissus and PowerFULL I keep about a half a kilo of each. I haven't tried the new Super Cissus yet but the old one is how I overcame RC damage without a doc and the knife. PowerFULL gives me strength, libido and great sleep. I will always use it. It works.
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Dutchman said:
Would you mind sending over a testimonial to [email protected] and please state your real name city and state.
thank you
wastedwhiteboy2
Board Supporter
are people really getting superdrol type effects? sd was wonderful to me. this stuff sounds similar but better than gxr.
CHAPS
Registered User
No it won't shut you down and would actually stack very nicely with Superdrol :head:
Dutchman
Active member
Not would stack....does. I'm now in week 4 and have had great results. It does take me longer to get to my max strength but I am simply getting bigger and stronger. I feel pumped all day long. AP will stay a permanent piece of my supplementation on, off and between cycles. I am looking forward to AP stacked with megadoses of Cissus and PowerFULL.
browndustin
Member
Have you run SD before? How much better do you like it stacked with AP?
I was thinking of giving SD another shot and running AP during cycle and especially during PCT to help retain gains. Glycogen retention with SD alone was pretty nuts. I can’t imagine how pumped and insane SD would be with AP.
I was thinking of giving SD another shot and running AP during cycle and especially during PCT to help retain gains. Glycogen retention with SD alone was pretty nuts. I can’t imagine how pumped and insane SD would be with AP.
borobulker
Well-known member
this would be out of control. as already mentioned, the pumps feel similar. muscle pumps...
Dutchman
Active member
This is only my 7th SD cycle so I am still a know-nothing newbie. Actually I was one of the first to ever do SD and spent a ton of time on BB.com in a huge year long thread trying to help others at the time. I have kind of quieted down this year because I have no interest in debating a bunch of kids who haven't learned how to do a basic search. I can not describe how good the AP has stacked with SD. Normally, because I go 220 now, I use 3X ED. Now I only need 2X and still I am reaching new max's. I have size I never expected and couldn't be happier with the results. Since I lift pretty heavy I also megadose Cissus to make sure my joints don't give out on me and I believe it is an extremely necessary component of any SD/AP stack.
As an example, today I did my back/shoulder routine and did 8 reps w/8 plates on the HS Pulldown machine and an identical amount on the HS Rowing machine. I then did 7 reps w/ 4 plates on the HS Shoulder press machine and ended with 7 reps @ 365 of Rack Deadlifts. The key thing is I felt STRONG on each and every rep. This is insane, I am an old, old fart and my body acts like its turned the clock back 40 years. I have lots of experience with SD but the addition of AP has been sensational for me.
Popa Murph
Member
Dutch,
Good to know you're still pushin' heavy, I haven't seen you since GG's geezer log over a year ago. I actually think it was 2 years ago.
Dutchman
Active member
I just thought i'd say that i'm glad AP is not an androgen because now for those of us that do use androgens we have something super potent to use both on and off cycle with no suppression
As a firm believer in the Cissus/PowerFULL megadose stack, I am really looking forward to a couple months of adding in AP and enjoying the results.
Dutchman
Active member
Yeah time flys Murph, that was back in 05 I believe. I hit 65 a while ago but I am enjoying my heavy lifting approach more than ever. It sure has added a lot of distance to my golf game LOL.
Ninjo
Well-known member
Unbelievable, 65 and still lifting heavy...you my friend, are an inspiration.
bigstabile
Member
Seriously, I was reading that post above thinking 8 plates isn't THAT much for hammer rows. Then I saw you are 65!Invalid Link Removed You are doing what my 52 year old dad wishes he could do. If only I could convince him how to really eat right:fool2:
Dutchman
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I just have my own beliefs in hard, heavy training, good diet and good supplementation. I am a certified viatminoholic and I am probably the oldest addicted devotee of the great herbal products we get from USPLabs. In training, I have tried for years to espouse and show by my actions that it is not necessary to accept decline and reduce one's self expectations. It is healthy fun to set newer, higher goals and just go after them, albeit a bit slower than in our youth. I can no longer do 5 days in a row for 2 1/2 hrs with short rest pauses in between sets. I can do 3 to 4 days of 1 1/4 hrs with fewer sets and longer pauses. I call it age adaption. Today, I went all out and increased my Hammer Strength Triceps Pressdowns from 450 to 500 lbs and still managed 8 full reps. I only got as far as 10 reps @ 250 with the Smith Machine CGBP when I said that is enough. I knew I had used up all my energy and concentration. I stop when I need to stop, so I can recover and come back again. My family and I just barely escaped the tornado that devastated large parts of our community here in The Villages in Lady Lake FL two nights ago. Using my long adapted approach, I channeled my anger and frustration before each lift into taking it out on the weights. Sounds corny but it works for me. Tell your Dad, at his young age he can be as good as he wants to be. He just has to be dedicated, intelligent, consistent and patient. Age is no longer a barrier, just an excuse.