is taking these 2 together too much? and does the post cycle tabs really have a low dose of clomid in it?
all I can say is that the pct tabs was the best test booster I ever toked, I also like 6-0x0 but pct tabs worked even better.is taking these 2 together too much? and does the post cycle tabs really have a low dose of clomid in it?
yea it looks to be the same thing as nolvadex xt and with the aspire and testofen should crank up test pretty good. i just would like to know if there's clomid in it. i've heard ids is pretty shady about putting illegal stuff in their supps.all I can say is that the pct tabs was the best test booster I ever toked, I also like 6-0x0 but pct tabs worked even better.
The stack you propose seems very good IMO
have to say... I was taking only one a night for a test booster cycle, because they're rather inexpensive, and... I've never had a libido that good, even when I was 16-18... I was taking it with CL Blue Up, which is supposed to free test too, and it was a great stack for recovery!all I can say is that the pct tabs was the best test booster I ever toked, I also like 6-0x0 but pct tabs worked even better.
The stack you propose seems very good IMO
I know some injectable AAS users who use them only for pct and they say they love the stuff, probably clomid is there.have to say... I was taking only one a night for a test booster cycle, because they're rather inexpensive, and... I've never had a libido that good, even when I was 16-18... I was taking it with CL Blue Up, which is supposed to free test too, and it was a great stack for recovery!
it was better than activate alone or Blue Up alone. :head:
thats true but this clomid spiked thing is becoming a real urban legend , and Z ,hear my advise on this bro, try the product , there's something very strange in it , the results are crazy , believe me its worth trying , you wont regret.Clomid is a prescription drug, if IDS put it in their product they'd be shut-down facing millions in fines. Methyl-Sten is a steroid but it was never illegal.
Thanks Nunes but I'm already loaded with Nolva and Torem which I much prefer over Clomid even if it were. It wouldn't suprise me though, hell a half dozen companies were busted selling Viagra as 'natural sexual enhancers' recently.thats true but this clomid spiked thing is becoming a real urban legend , and Z ,hear my advise on this bro, try the product , there's something very strange in it , the results are crazy , believe me its worth trying , you wont regret.
I was very sceptical on them but now I had a 3 box stock on my supp arsenal
I agree (but I took out the part about novadex b/c I haven't tried it), I remember you saying that they were good on a previous thread a couple of months ago, when I was about to start my stack.IMO this is one of the most underestimated supps out there... the effects are noticed on the first dose,pct have atd but libido goes sky high.
I`m glad people began to see how good they are cause I`m telling this on the boards from a long time but a lot of haters who never tried the product just know to bash, ok IDS is shady but their products work and pct tabs is one of their best for sure, people cant go wrong with them
i got it at vitamin world on clearance for $25 and yes a lot a few companies have been busted for putting things in their products that aren't legal. ie aspire 36 had cialis in it. and i've known people who have sold ids products and have said something about having illegal drugs in them.Ok, stupid question...
Are we talking about a PCT only sort of thing or using it as regular test boosters throughout a period of time.
And also, couldn't find this post cycle tabs on nutraplanet, is it the real name and nutraplanet just doesn't carry it or what?
Sounds very interesting.
I know that I'm talking about using it as a test booster... with something like blue up or activate to free up even more of the test...Ok, stupid question...
Are we talking about a PCT only sort of thing or using it as regular test boosters throughout a period of time.
And also, couldn't find this post cycle tabs on nutraplanet, is it the real name and nutraplanet just doesn't carry it or what?
Sounds very interesting.
i'm taking it with activate. i don't think blue up would do anything. it's just tribulus isn't it? i always take a test booster with something that has divanil extract in itI know that I'm talking about using it as a test booster... with something like blue up or activate to free up even more of the test...
Nutraplanet doesn't sell it. I can get it for $22 at DA, but I actually bought mine on sale at vitamin world for $25.
even if the post cycle tabs does have clomid in it it's not going to hurt u at all. all the other ingredients are solid. if i had known about this product earlier i probably would have used it a lot more. hopefully they're still continuing to make it. i've always wanted to try mass tabs, debating whether to snatch some of that up if i can or use havoc 3ad stacki know mass tabs had a bad rep for awhile then positive logs started going up all over the place, and now they are gone. btw nunes, you are a credible guy, going to get some pct.
blue up actually has Avena Sativa and Eurycoma Longifolia extract, which both bind to the sbhg molecule, freeing up test.i'm taking it with activate. i don't think blue up would do anything. it's just tribulus isn't it? i always take a test booster with something that has divanil extract in it
hm.. didn't know that. always thought divanil was the only supplement that did that. maybe i'll snag some up. the vitamin world by me carried controlled labs products but stopped selling them after a few months because nobody bought. so now it all just sits there marked at half price for when i need it:head:blue up actually has Avena Sativa and Eurycoma Longifolia extract, which both bind to the sbhg molecule, freeing up test.
blue up felt like it did more for me solo that activate solo, but everybody is different
Blue Up--stim free version
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving
Blue Up Test Complex 1100mg
Tribulus Terrestris (Extracted for 80% Steroidal Saponins and 30% Protodioscin)
Avena Sativa (Extracted for 15% Avenacosides A & B)
Eurycoma Longifolia (Longjack Extracted for 28% Bioactive Glyco Peptides, 40% Glyco Saponins and 30% polysaccharides)
i like the stim version, gives a real kick in the arse pre-workout. and best of all it's cheap at np.:thumbsup:hm.. didn't know that. always thought divanil was the only supplement that did that. maybe i'll snag some up. the vitamin world by me carried controlled labs products but stopped selling them after a few months because nobody bought. so now it all just sits there marked at half price for when i need it:head:
yep hate when that happensi know mass tabs had a bad rep for awhile then positive logs started going up all over the place, and now they are gone. btw nunes, you are a credible guy, going to get some pct.
yeah, thats a heads up on pct tabs. better get them while you can. now that they are getting popular they may be doomed. i just ordered 2 bottles.yep hate when that happens
thats the catch-22. when you buy unregulated otc supplements who's to say whats really in them or how much. on the other hand if they were regulated they probably wouldn't be available. why i love this forum is companies can't bullshit us with claims cause if something doesn't work we can call them out. and if something harms someone we can share that too.:thumbsup:I'd never but from a company who likely spikes their 'supplements' with illegal drugs. Taking & putting something in your body you have no clue what it is isn't the best idea IMO.
well considering people know about it and if u are taking steroids and buying this for pct it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have clomid in it. not saying it's right but that's what people would be looking for anyway.I'd never but from a company who likely spikes their 'supplements' with illegal drugs. Taking & putting something in your body you have no clue what it is isn't the best idea IMO.
hell bsn got in trouble for something in NO xplode that wasn't listed in the ingredients and shouldn't have been in there.thats the catch-22. when you buy unregulated otc supplements who's to say whats really in them or how much. on the other hand if they were regulated they probably wouldn't be available. why i love this forum is companies can't bullshit us with claims cause if something doesn't work we can call them out. and if something harms someone we can share that too.:thumbsup:
thats the catch-22. when you buy unregulated otc supplements who's to say whats really in them or how much. on the other hand if they were regulated they probably wouldn't be available. why i love this forum is companies can't bullshit us with claims cause if something doesn't work we can call them out. and if something harms someone we can share that too.:thumbsup:
When I'm running a cycle, I make sure I have a branded SERM as I'd never run a PCT not knowing exactly what the product is. It's like roulette. :shoot:well considering people know about it and if u are taking steroids and buying this for pct it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have clomid in it. not saying it's right but that's what people would be looking for anyway.
most people buy research serms-talk about shady. no way in hell of telling whats in them. i have a problem believing in the whole research thing, if the potency was as advertised the potential for people harming themselves by 'megadosing' would be too risky.When I'm running a cycle, I make sure I have a branded SERM as I'd never run a PCT not knowing exactly what the product is. It's like roulette. :shoot:
IDS's been very shady from the beginning. To sell a potent steroid like Methyl Stenbolone (if it even is) and tell people its much safer than other 'hormonal supplements' is plain wrong. In reality it should be more toxic than Superdrol and just a bit less toxic than M1T.
Yeah research chems are a really blurry area for me. Funny thing is certain 'chems' that are sold aren't even stable in a liquid suspension. Can you say placebo? :think:most people buy research serms-talk about shady. no way in hell of telling whats in them. i have a problem believing in the whole research thing, if the potency was as advertised the potential for people harming themselves by 'megadosing' would be too risky.
and can you imagine selling potent prescription drugs in liquid form to kids. and best of all coming with an eyedropper with no instructions. my bet is there is not enough active in the entire bottle to be harmful, even if whole bottle is taken at one time.Yeah research chems are a really blurry area for me. Funny thing is certain 'chems' that are sold aren't even stable in a liquid suspension. Can you say placebo? :think:
almost every otc supp used for pct can be used in a test boosting stack. hell lots of guys use activate extreme for pct, doesn't mean you can't use it outside pct.I'm not taking them for pct
i know. that's why i'm taking it. activate xtreme for pct? theres nothing in it to control estrogenalmost every otc supp used for pct can be used in a test boosting stack. hell lots of guys use activate extreme for pct, doesn't mean you can't use it outside pct.
Many like to use as many support supps they can in PCT to help retain gains, but the I3C in Activate is know to help with estrogen control herbally and would be a nice compliment to SERMing.i know. that's why i'm taking it. activate xtreme for pct? theres nothing in it to control estrogen
a common way to use it is to add start of 3rd week with cort control, by then natural test should be on the rise and the freeing of test is very beneficial at this time. :thumbsup:Many like to use as many support supps they can in PCT to help retain gains, but the I3C in Activate is know to help with estrogen control herbally and would be a nice compliment to SERMing.
yea but that alone isn't strong enough is it?Many like to use as many support supps they can in PCT to help retain gains, but the I3C in Activate is know to help with estrogen control herbally and would be a nice compliment to SERMing.
Excellent point T :thumbsup:a common way to use it is to add start of 3rd week with cort control, by then natural test should be on the rise and the freeing of test is very beneficial at this time. :thumbsup:
As I said above it would be a nice compliment to a PCT but I'd never try running it alone. You never know though there's some crazy mofo's out there. :fool2:yea but that alone isn't strong enough is it?
true. i know a guy who ran 2 straight months of d-drol took a month off then ran another month. only thing he ever took for pct was 1 bottle of 6-oxoAs I said above it would be a nice compliment to a PCT but I'd never try running it alone. You never know though there's some crazy mofo's out there. :fool2:
Damn, he's probably limp...true. i know a guy who ran 2 straight months of d-drol took a month off then ran another month. only thing he ever took for pct was 1 bottle of 6-oxo
thanks for your words , I don't have any interest in any company, I`m just a normal bb that knows what it cost to spend a lot of money in supps that sometimes are simply a waste.i know mass tabs had a bad rep for awhile then positive logs started going up all over the place, and now they are gone. btw nunes, you are a credible guy, going to get some pct.
This is a position that I understand and respect , the big problem is that is very hard to trust anyone nowadays, only a few companies test their products so sometimes I think that IDS at least (if they are crossing the line) know what they put on their stuff(legal or illegal),lately I never heard of bunk IDS stuff,but my friend you have a valid point in what you say as you always do so all my respect .I'd never but from a company who likely spikes their 'supplements' with illegal drugs. Taking & putting something in your body you have no clue what it is isn't the best idea IMO.
what cycle was that?Post cycle tabs by IDS are great for pct, I personally used them at 2 a day for 3 weeks then down to 1 for last week,also used 6oxo with it. Great product test levels are back to normal after 13 weeker.
yeah bro, songoku rulesbtw nunes, your avatar is cool
I remember when I first started lifting weights, I wanted to look just like the DBZ guys lol:bb3:
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