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IBE nolvadex unsafe?

yanke10

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I dont wanna jump the gun but something might be wrong with IBE's current nolvadex. iv taken it for the past two days and i am completley ****ed up. i have insomnia(and in mean severe insomnia. i havent gone to sleep yet and i am still jumping off the walls) my heart it beating weird and i am sweating. I took IBE's nolva last year and was fine. Did they mess up and give me clen instead.
 
are you giving your hampsters anything else? Maybe it is the expected outcome of the experiment keeping you up.

I do not know what type of lab animals you are using but here is a link regarding Nolvadex:

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whatever it is, i def. stopping it. wats the half life on this stuff. i wonder wat would happen if i take some sleeping pills nows
 
yanke10 said:
whatever it is, i def. stopping it. wats the half life on this stuff. i wonder wat would happen if i take some sleeping pills nows
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Were you taking it for any particular reason?
 
The side effects you describe sound more like the sides for Clen. I suppose it is possible a mislabeling occurred and Clen got labeled as Nolva. You should not be having any of these side effects from Nolva.
 
Wow I would go to IBE's forum and ask there. IBE is a great company but that sh!t is scary. I am always worried about this happening every time I get a research chem. Hope it works out.
 
Definitely sounds like clen. How many mL did you take of what was in that bottle and how many times have you taken it so far?

Are you feeling jittery and/or hot? How long did these effects last. Lets try and narrow things down.
 
MacMan said:
The side effects you describe sound more like the sides for Clen. I suppose it is possible a mislabeling occurred and Clen got labeled as Nolva. You should not be having any of these side effects from Nolva.
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I agree sounds more like clen but who knows how different people react to different things.

I have been experimenting with IBE nolva off and on for 3 years and it has always been good for me.


CROWLER
 
Wow this is scary. I tried their clen and i thought it was rather tasteless, at least compared to nolva. Nolva should have some serious bite with the citrus taste, clen tasted almost like water to me.
 
Old Guy said:
He must have finally went to sleep.
Hey Bro, please give us an update when you know something.
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Yeah lets hope that is why is isn't responding. I hope he had the common sense to stop taking it.
 
i went to sleep at 9am. finally. didnt last long though, woke up at 1pm. but i still have a headache and the sweats. i stopped taking it. before i was taking 40mg for two days. i just bought some tylenol pm for tonite.


the insomnia is weird. once i shut my eyes i start getting dizzy and i think at a mile a minute. i cant stop thinking. seems like my CNS is on crack
 
What mg to ml is your clen?


CROWLER
 
Are you taking anything else at all?
 
jonny21 said:
Are you taking anything else at all?
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just x factor and retain for the past two days too. i highly doubt they have caused these side effects.

is there a way to tell if its clen. wat does clen taste like
 
What strength is it mg/ml?


CROWLER
 
yanke10 said:
just x factor and retain for the past two days too. i highly doubt they have caused these side effects.

is there a way to tell if its clen. wat does clen taste like
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Although I doubt this is the case some have experienced heart palpitations using retain. But I have a feeling your bottle was mislabeled.
 
yanke10 said:
i went to sleep at 9am. finally. didnt last long though, woke up at 1pm. but i still have a headache and the sweats. i stopped taking it. before i was taking 40mg for two days. i just bought some tylenol pm for tonite.


the insomnia is weird. once i shut my eyes i start getting dizzy and i think at a mile a minute. i cant stop thinking. seems like my CNS is on crack
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STOP TAKING IT! Regardless of whether you got mislabeled product for your lab animals or they are just having a bad reaction, the reported symptoms are NOT typical. If this is mislabeled clen and your lab animals are taking it at Nolva doses, they could experience SERIOUS health problems.
 
hi yanke,

read your side effects of the nolva.

so far this is the first for the nolvadex and i have no one else complaining not even on my board.

i think you're having isolated side effects. i wouldnt say it was mislabeled ibe is much more careful than that.

if it was clen you would be jittery and wouldn't stop moving.

are you taking anything else? any medications?

stop taking the nolva right now let me see if the sides wear off so i can gauge what might be wrong.

if i have to i will talk to the owners and send you another tamox and from another batch but stop taking it right now.
 
LuvMuhRoids said:
hi yanke,

read your side effects of the nolva.

so far this is the first for the nolvadex and i have no one else complaining not even on my board.

i think you're having isolated side effects. i wouldnt say it was mislabeled ibe is much more careful than that.

if it was clen you would be jittery and wouldn't stop moving.

are you taking anything else? any medications?

stop taking the nolva right now let me see if the sides wear off so i can gauge what might be wrong.

if i have to i will talk to the owners and send you another tamox and from another batch but stop taking it right now.
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He already posted all of those questions.
 
ok whats up with this guy? i have a serious concern here for yanke's problem and we got a guy with one post and his first post is an IBE bash? is that fishy?
Barbell500 said:
I am scared to buy more nolva from IBE now :sad:
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thanks for the concern. iv been off it for 24 hours and im feelin a little better. im a going to stop taking everything for a couple days until i feel better and then take the stuff one more time to see if the effects are related to it. maybe then well figure out wat it is.

im not bashin IBE, theyve been good to me in the past, i just never experiecend these side effects with nolva
 
oh you're not bashing. this is a legitimate concern. no telling who out of a 1000 will have bad sides and I definitely want to catch that. keep in touch with me yanke and let me know. dont want anything happening to you. i dont come here often and i'd hate to member steal. although my board isn't a bodybuilding board exactly but if you can. register at Invalid Link Removed and pm me daily so i can keep track of you.
yanke10 said:
thanks for the concern. iv been off it for 24 hours and im feelin a little better. im a going to stop taking everything for a couple days until i feel better and then take the stuff one more time to see if the effects are related to it. maybe then well figure out wat it is.

im not bashin IBE, theyve been good to me in the past, i just never experiecend these side effects with nolva
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Old Guy said:
They are top notch. I'm sure they will get to the bottom of this.
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I will second that for sure. They are a great company. A couple of things could have happened to explain this for one as I said before retain has been known to cause heart palpitations and restlessness (is that even a word ? lol)
 
LuvMuhRoids said:
ok whats up with this guy? i have a serious concern here for yanke's problem and we got a guy with one post and his first post is an IBE bash? is that fishy?
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I am not bashing, I don't like to bash...It's just now I am concerned. I've used IBE Tamoxifen Citrate in the past, and everything was just fine...I like the prices and the delivery time...but let's be realistic, this is scary, I wouldn't want it to happen to me.
 
IBE said:
First, we need to try to determine more clearly if at all possible that the product was mislabeled. Is the liquid thin and taste like light everclear? Or does it have a thick consistency and sweet/alcohol taste? There are many quality control measures taken, but this is is the first we are hearing of your situation. Please give us more details on your concerns so that we can help get to the bottom of what is going on.
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I love when companies give responses like this one...it shows that they care. :woohoo:
 
bioman said:
Tyramine could definitely be the culprit, but we need a description of his Nolva just to be sure.

Nolva= chalky, citrus/nasty chemical taste.

Clen= clear, strong alcohol taste with a bite.
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WTF? My Nolva, which I have not used yet, has a clear look, and a strong alcohol taste! It is definitely not chalky nor has a nasty taste.

IT is clear as water and smell alcohol.

What the hell is it? Clen?

I ordered in Feb.
 
BioHazzard said:
IT is clear as water and smell alcohol.
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Sounds good.


IBE said:
Is the liquid thin and taste like light everclear? Or does it have a thick consistency and sweet/alcohol taste?
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I think the sweeter stuff is the clen.

I just had my research monkey taste all of my IBE research chemicals. Using sign language he told me:
a'dez, letro, T3 are thicker & sweeter
clomid, nolva are thinner and kind of harsh
 
yanke,

i need to know how you're doing today bro. i cant pm you so if you can come to the forum pm me over there.
 
sorry i took long to get back. iv been busy. i feel better now that i am off everything. when i get home later ill taste, cause before i was capping it.
 
IBE said:
our nolva is thicker then the clen and does not contain any water. clen is water based you can easly tell the differents. the nolva will burn your mouth and the clen will not.
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now that i think about it, the stuff is very clear, is it supposed to be? ill find out tonite what it tastes like and get back to you
 
IBE said:
We have now decided to start dying our chems different colors to make sure there is no possible mistake between batches and we also put clenbuterol in amber bottles to make sure that this chem would never be mistaken. Many will notice we go further by giving each chem a uniquely colored labeled to avoid shipping errors when packaging products. We assure you, no one gets a different product than what is labeled.
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Very nice. Great ideas!

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IBE said:
To be clear on the difference in the products......I will lay it out
Clenbuterol will have absolutely no sweet taste and will be mostly water. An entire batch contains 10% alcohol and 90% water (a thickener we use is what gives a sweet taste and there is none in the clenbuterol batches. Also, batches that are strong alcohol tasting and thin will have 40% alcohol or higher, such as tamoxifen. There is also 50% thickener leaving a slight sweet taste but not as dominent as lythoronine sodium, anastrozole and letrozole which contain 75% thickener and only 25% alcohol.
We go through many different quality control measures to assure that products are properly labeled and kept separated. It is very important to eliminate any other possible causes and if you would like for us to test and/or send replacements please call customer service immediately before continuing any research with a questionable item.
We have now decided to start dying our chems different colors to make sure there is no possible mistake between batches and we also put clenbuterol in amber bottles to make sure that this chem would never be mistaken. Many will notice we go further by giving each chem a uniquely colored labeled to avoid shipping errors when packaging products. We assure you, no one gets a different product than what is labeled.
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Very nice. Like the idea.
 
ok i just finished tasting it. last year when i took your nolva i almost died from the taste, which is why i started capping it. the stuff i have now is bearable. almost like an extremley weak vodka. and its thickness is the same as water. so what is it
 
yanke10 said:
ok i just finished tasting it. last year when i took your nolva i almost died from the taste, which is why i started capping it. the stuff i have now is bearable. almost like an extremley weak vodka. and its thickness is the same as water. so what is it
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From what IBE posted, it sounds like Clen. Send it back to them. Yea if it feels like lotion it's Tamox right?
 
I can still taste it from a year ago. It's a heavy alcohol, tangy, burning taste. Edit: I can't really taste it from a year ago. It's just so memorable.
 
Oops, I'll delete my other posts on descriptions as they were based on someone else's nolva and clen.

My bad.
 
IBE said:
our nolva is thicker then the clen and does not contain any water. clen is water based you can easly tell the differents. the nolva will burn your mouth and the clen will not.
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Ok... it feels oily. Then it must be the correct item. Thanks
 
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